PSP VS. DS

FLARE of the Crimson Flam · Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:53 am

The specs are out which do you like. Post why. I like the PSP because its small, the graphics and games selection are good and its sony. DS is just too big and it doesnt wow me by having to look at 2 screens. hardly the portable console.

Nakushita · Post by **Nakushita** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:59 am

i thimk nintendo has the advantage with the portable systems, they have been around longer and have more experence. But sony may pull something off, I have not been impressed with sonys new hardware. The PS3 sounds kinda pointless compared to the Nintendo rev. and X-box 2

SephirothSolace · Post by **SephirothSolace** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:48 pm

PSP is more of a sony CLIE with games than a portable system.
DS is only games, while PSP can have music, movies, pictures, and such, and of course, games.
PSP is looking waaaaaaay better than DS.

Up with Sony! Down with Nintendo!

piko24 · Post by **piko24** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:04 pm

psp all the way plus the back looks cool on the back

Nakushita · Post by **Nakushita** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:09 pm

can someone post a pic of the two?

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:28 pm

PSP.....
the nintendo DS is no different from the other hand-held systems that they produced in the past few years.....the only difference i see is that it has 2 screens.....

FLARE of the Crimson Flam · Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:57 pm

Nakushita wrote:i thimk nintendo has the advantage with the portable systems, they have been around longer and have more experence. But sony may pull something off, I have not been impressed with sonys new hardware. The PS3 sounds kinda pointless compared to the Nintendo rev. and X-box 2

I think sony was here before nintendo not in games but in electronics. And by the way the PSP is not PS3. The PSX which is the third big consol wont be here for a long time. Im in Japan and its selling for 80000 yen which is about $800. If you want a picture do a google search the pics are everywhere now.

Nakushita · Post by **Nakushita** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:49 pm

I know the PSP is not the PS3, I only mentioned it too say Sony has not been impressive with there hardware lateley

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:49 pm

I would have to say that I too, prefer the PSP over the DS. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Nintendo, but I personally think that they should stick with Game Boys instead of luanching a whole new system. That and I prefer the way that the PSP looks and all of it's functions. The dual screen on the DS, just seem pointless.

piko24 · Post by **piko24** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:07 am

i agree with beowulf nintendo was better off with the game boys especially sp its flipable

///AKUJIKI-E1N54MK317 · Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:26 am

While my soul belongs to Sony for their superior equipment in almost everything else they do... wait, that is the point. I say the PSP will pwn the DS in the FACE. Sony has basically dominated the midrange portable equipment market for quite some time, and this piece of technology is sure to be no acception. And with laptops that are tiny and second only to an Alienware, this is probably going to be one powerful mother. Seeing the stuff for Metal Gear Ac!d, I am already impressed at what it can do. And while it may not have good battery size, with battery technology improving every day, I am sure they will come up with something soon.

I still want one of those AI robots they make... but I'll settle for the PSP.

Icemasta · Post by **Icemasta** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:10 am

i agree with E1N and i think the PSP will totaly own the DS.
and for pics i found 2 model:
Model 1:

Model 2:

i admit i prefer the second one but i think the first one is the real one

///AKUJIKI-E1N54MK317 · Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:42 pm

What are you talking about? The actual look of the thing has already been released... anyway, I'll go off and find it.

It will be posted here.

::edit:: OK, here is the final production model pics. They are huge, so ill put the links.

Production Images:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/20 ... een001.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/20 ... een006.jpg

The real deal in the flesh at E3:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/20 ... een010.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/20 ... een009.jpg

And the guts:
PSP Specifications:

CPU

MIPS R4000 32-bit core
128-bit bus
1-333MHz (1.2V)
8MB eDRAM main memory
2.6Gbps bus bandwidth
FPU, VFPU (2.6 billion flops)
3D graphics extended instructions

Graphics Core

1-166MHz (1.2V)
256-bit bus
2MB eDRAM (VRAM)
5.3Gbps bus bandwidth
664 million pixels per second pizel fill rate
3D curved surface and 3D polygon engine
Support for compressed textures, hardware clipping, morphing, bone, tessellation, bezier, b-spline (NURBS)
Maximum of 33 million polygons per second
24-bit full color (RGBA)

Sound Core

VME (Virtual Mobile Engine)
Reconfigurable DSP
166MHz (1.2 V)
128-bit bus
5 giga operations per second
CODEC capabilities
3D sound, 7.1 channels
Synthesizer, effecter, and other abilities
ATRAC3 plus, AAC, MP3 for audio

Media Engine

MIPS R4000 32-bit core
128-bit bus
1-333MHz (1.2V)
2MB eDRAM submemory
90nm CMOS

Media

UMD (Universal Media Disc)
60mm-diameter disc
660nm laser diode
1.8GB capacity (dual-layered disc)
11Mbps transfer rate
AES crypto system
Unique disc ID
Shock proof
Regional code system
Parental lock system
Repeat ordering system

More Specifications

16:9-format widescreen TFT LCD (480x272 pixels, 24-bit full color)
MPEG4 AVC decoder
Wireless LAN (802.11)
IrDA (Infrared Data Association)
USB 2.0
Memory Stick
AV in/out
Stereo headphone out
Lithium ion battery
Expansion port

piko24 · Post by **piko24** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:18 pm

so basicly psp is bettter

///AKUJIKI-E1N54MK317 · Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:19 pm

Damn right it is!

FLARE of the Crimson Flam · Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:40 am

Here are the DS specs.

Processor:
ARM946E-S (674MHz)
Chache: 8KB data 4KB
TCM: 32KB data 16KB

Memory
4MB
ARM9/ARM7
32KB(2 times 16KB0
Work RAM
64KB

VRAM
656KB

LCD Dislplay
2 screens of 256x192 pixels (RGB0

Color
Maxium of 262,144 colors

3D Graphics Engine
Coordinate conversion
maxium of 4M/second

Sound
16 channels (ADPCM/PCM)
Microphone imput

Wireless communication
IEEE02.11 protocol

Input device
Touch screen / panel
"cross," A,B,R,L,X,Y, Start, and select.

Well there now you have both specs to compare.
Have fun

SephirothSolace · Post by **SephirothSolace** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:01 pm

Ok FLARE has his facts wrong, again...

The PSX is NOT the PS3. (Notice i didn't use big red letters this time...)
The PSX is the PS2 with a bunch of little extras, unfortunately it is Jap only. I think its already out though. The PS3 is not out and anyone who says they have one should be arrested for possesion and/or use of illegal substances.

FLARE of the Crimson Flam · Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:01 pm

SephirothSolace wrote:Ok FLARE has his facts wrong, again...

The PSX is NOT the PS3. (Notice i didn't use big red letters this time...)
The PSX is the PS2 with a bunch of little extras, unfortunately it is Jap only. I think its already out though. The PS3 is not out and anyone who says they have one should be arrested for possesion and/or use of illegal substances.

Hey sorry about that. Sony plaza had it and i cant read kanji so just assumed.

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:44 am

SephirothSolace wrote:The PSX is NOT the PS3. (Notice i didn't use big red letters this time...)

It's very much appreciated. I want to comment on what the PSX is, but I really don't know, either. I'll have to look into it...

Anyway, I think the PSP is better. The DS is... strange. The idea is a little quirky. Do I expect Nintendo to come up with some really strange but fun way to use it? You bet. Will a lot of people buy into it? Probably not, but you never know.

Post by **Helbaworshipper** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:46 am

I would probably get the PSP...only because the DS is just really....weird.

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