Cubia

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:38 am

Well, with all these things with Cubia going on now, the 4 eyes, as well as this Cubia <Alpha> I wonder if anyone has anything to say about it? As far as I know the only things I can confirm by speculating the trailer..so these are rather speculations.'

The 4 eyed Cubia is a more complete version of Cubia then Alpha Cubia

Cubia <Alpha> seems to be it's first form in a way, and that's also the first time 3rd Form Skeith appears. And one of it's attacks was "Ectoplasm" Which seems to be when he sends Skeith far back, and the battle strategy starts again, either that or it hurts too, but it seems like an attack that's unpreventable.

It should also be noted that there are tiny floating things that are also appearing with the mysterious 4 eye entity believed to be Cubia. It's going to be believed for now that that those are the "Gomora"s, which will only be confirmed once that is confirmed to be Cubia, however Cubia <Alpha> is confirmed, we just havn't seen the Gomoras with it.

Anyways, xD

Anyone have any speculation, thoughts, theories? Such as why Cubia's back? Or Why the hell is Bandai trying to hide this name so much.

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:51 am

I don't want to be a 'bubble burst' in a sence... but I really don't see why that would really have to be Cubia, or how the name says "Cubia <alpha>"

If you look at the name, I will agree that there is clearly an A at the end, so we have 1/5 letters for simply "Cubia". Yet then look at the second to last letter...
From the looks of it, it can either be an I, U, or even perhaps a D (if you enlarge the screen and view the video on the large mode, you can see a faint white line for the top of the D, even though it is blurry).

But let us even assume that it is an I. Yet if it is an I, there is alos clearly PART of a letter behind the end of the second letter (due to I's are simply vertical lines). Also, inbetween the two large japanese characters, you can see 3 black spots, for letters.

So now we at least have 5/5, but if we assume that they fit at least 1 character behind the large characters, we have 7/5. Then due to the entire "if it is an I, it has to have anothe rletter due to spacing and letter shape" argument, then you have 8/5.

Im not saying it CAN'T be Cubia, due to the image and text is very blurry. Yet I am saying that unless you have a hi-res version that clearly says "Cubia", don't assume it is true.

Mellow Grunty · Post by **Mellow Grunty** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:39 am

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:18 am

This has also been brought up on the 2ch boards alot, however it is Cubia <Alpha> I believe it was shown mainly in one of the commercials, where you saw "Bia <Alpha> it was Commercial 2 I believe, or Commercial 1, I'll recheck on that, however that enough is more then proof that the name is "Cubia <Alpha>" if you need more proof, then wait till either the Commercials hit the web or until the game is out, because the name IS Cubia <Alpha> even that picture can help you with that barely.

Edit: HAH Found more proof

As we all expect the 4 eyed being to be Cubia, notice the little creatures that were floating around it? I just found the same small creatures following around Cubia <Alpha> which is what the homing shots were mainly aiming for. However when the clear picture of Cubia <Alpha> comes out with the name )Which'll probably be when the game's released) I'll show you.

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:18 pm

Well, again Im not saying that it is impossible, and if there are screen shots which show the name clearer, I would like to see them, but as for now I don't believe it says Cubia.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:23 pm

Is there a connection between Ovan and this new Cubia?

Haseo G.U · Post by **Haseo G.U** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:27 pm

I asked before what about Kubia ? Well guys you see now that it will be too ^^ Shape looks similar and probably Oban caused its appearence..

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:38 pm

Haseo G.U wrote:I asked before what about Kubia ? Well guys you see now that it will be too ^^ Shape looks similar and probably Oban caused its appearence..

It probably ate its way out of Ovan... Judging by the trailer, Ovan does bring about its existance in some way.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:49 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:
Haseo G.U wrote:I asked before what about Kubia ? Well guys you see now that it will be too ^^ Shape looks similar and probably Oban caused its appearence..
It probably ate its way out of Ovan... Judging by the trailer, Ovan does bring about its existance in some way.

Question is did he bring out willingly or did it just possess him to let it out?

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:58 pm

Ignus wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:
Haseo G.U wrote:I asked before what about Kubia ? Well guys you see now that it will be too ^^ Shape looks similar and probably Oban caused its appearence..
It probably ate its way out of Ovan... Judging by the trailer, Ovan does bring about its existance in some way.
Question is did he bring out willingly or did it just possess him to let it out?

I doubt he brought it out willingly. If Cubia is an anti-existence, like in the first games, then what was it that pulled him out of his hole this time?

Haseo G.U · Post by **Haseo G.U** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:02 pm

maybe AIDA ? It overflowed Oban and took his consious

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:16 pm

Either the Epitaph users, or the overflowing AIDA, since well more Epitaph users are awakening, and the AIDA is also getting more powerful. But I am also curious as to if it did come from Ovan, cause it does seem like it from the trailer. Or maybe Ovan's arm was the key to reawakening Cubia, due to the ammount of unbalancing it's caused, I mean he gave AIDA to Sakaki, and now him and Ovan are really messed up beyond normal AIDA. And if AIDA is controlling Ovan, and Sakaki maybe what AIDA's plan is to forcefully bring out Cubia, and try on infect Cubia in a way?

It's really hard to make speculations since all we really do know is

A. Cubia is back
B. Cubia apparently has more then 1 Phase again
C. Cubia isn't something a normal Epitaph user can handle alone.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:17 pm

Maybe we can finally have the avatars go berserk fight

Skeithwannabe · Post by **Skeithwannabe** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:27 pm

I don't know what Cubia thinks but I can't Imagine a AIDA infecting it because well he is Cubia....He'd probubly Devour the damn thing if it tried to infect him

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:33 pm

Kadaaju wrote:This has also been brought up on the 2ch boards alot, however it is Cubia <Alpha> I believe it was shown mainly in one of the commercials, where you saw "Bia <Alpha> it was Commercial 2 I believe, or Commercial 1, I'll recheck on that, however that enough is more then proof that the name is "Cubia <Alpha>" if you need more proof, then wait till either the Commercials hit the web or until the game is out, because the name IS Cubia <Alpha> even that picture can help you with that barely.

Edit: HAH Found more proof

As we all expect the 4 eyed being to be Cubia, notice the little creatures that were floating around it? I just found the same small creatures following around Cubia <Alpha> which is what the homing shots were mainly aiming for. However when the clear picture of Cubia <Alpha> comes out with the name )Which'll probably be when the game's released) I'll show you.

Again though, even if a commercial says "bia", does that mean it is Cubia?

Aina is only one letter away from Aida after all, so who says that it has to be "Cubia"?

Like I am telling most people... it MIGHT be cubia, and you can go ahead and think it is, but unless i see a better image to show that it is Cubia, I don't believe it is.

Also, as far as the whole "They are Gamora" thing, does anyone have an image where it clearly says that is what they are called in Volume 3?

Without Knowledge · Post by **Without Knowledge** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:35 pm

Hmm, is it not possible for Cubia to still be the Twilight Bracelet's Anti-Existence? That's what it was before, what would make that change?

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:37 pm

Considering Haseo has a DD (not to say AK already has one) I wouldnt rule it out.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:08 pm

My idea is that Cubia was the AIDA in Ovan's arm all along.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:10 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:My idea is that Cubia was the AIDA in Ovan's arm all along.

Its possible since his AIDA was never really revealed to what it was. (So did it escape then after the fight then?)

EDIT: Cubia's eyes are the same colors as those..."tenticles" on Ovan's arm in Corbenik's form. More so theres something such as a projectile being shot out with those "tri-jellies" from it as well.

Perhaps Ovan is firing a form of Cubia?

EyeofCalamity · Post by **EyeofCalamity** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:43 pm

I think that it's a strong possibility that it's Cubia, in fact, that's what I'm telling everyone that it is... But think for a minute, why would Haseo be fighting Cubia? Cubia, like the 8 Phases, is a part of the system, so unless it is infected with AIDA fighting it would be pointless since it wouldn't be destroyed.

Without Knowledge wrote:Hmm, is it not possible for Cubia to still be the Twilight Bracelet's Anti-Existence? That's what it was before, what would make that change?

Well, you do remember the facts about Cubia right?

Cubia:

Morganna could anticipate human behavior and plan ahead. One example of this was Cubia, a monster designed to balance the game against hackers and edited character data.
Cubia was meant to seek out malicious players with illegal abilities like the Braclet and Data Drain, then deleting their PC files. Until Kite recieved the "Book of Twilight" and the Braclet, no players fitting this description had appeared, so Cubia had not been seen.Once the Braclet became active, Cubia sought Kite whenever he came in contact with Aura, because it believed Kite was a threat to the system, to which Aura belonged. Cubia did not attempt to attack Aura or the malfunctioning Morganna because it saw both Morganna and Aura as parts of the game world.
Cubia disappeared when Kite destroyed the Bracelet because the danger to the system was removed and its job was done. Cubia remains in the system, however, and should something new appear that threatens game balance it will launch again. Cubia copied Kite's character data everytime it was launched and was able to keep pace with Kite's increasing powers.

So Cubia is more than just the Twilight Bracelet's Anti-Existence, he was still in the game far after the Twilight. The Bracelet being destroyed simply caused him to lose the body it created from the remnants of Skeith, he still omnipresently existed.

I believe that it's Cubia, but I'm a bit curious as to why you have to fight it.