Movie: The DaVinci Code

[Chili]

Probably the...hot topic of art critics, the Church, society, and other religious cults alike.

So both the movie and the book. Are they just safe, readable and watchable fictionary selections, or a terrible, brainwashing influence, and worse than how Harry Potter affected most of the world's kids?

[S1lentOp]

I would hardly call it a masterpiece. Beleive it or not, this idea is not Dan Brown's. This has been done before.. The only difference now is that Dan Brown's been promoting it more, not just as a book, but as a revealling of some unknown truth. Yes, Dan Brown has openly said on many public appearnces that he whole-heartedly supports and believes in the theories he's writting within his book. Even the book implies, and in some cases blatantly says, that what it is saying is true and that the evidence presented in it is also accurate. At the same time, I would call it a deliberate attempt to convince a gullible population to believe that Christianity isn't true and that Jesus wasn't who He said He was. Of course, his theory falls to pieces once the so-called "facts" and "evidences" are examined. Pretty much every "fact" and "evidence" used to enforce the books claims are grossly distored and skewed in order to make sense of the book's propositions. For example, the Priory of Zion wasn't started in 1099 by a group of people who wished to protect "the con of man". It was, in fact, founded in 1956 by a wackjob Frenchman who tried to claim he was the decendant of Jesus Christ in an attempt to claim the throne and become the king of France. The most famous fallacy in this book, however, is the interpretation of the painting of the Last Supper. The person is, in fact, John. DaVinci himself says it's John, and when you examine other paintings of that era of John, you'll ntice he has the same effeminate features as he did in The Last Supper. This was because artists during this time viewed manly youth in this way. In the end, the book is unoriginal and mediocre (in my opiion). But most importantly, it is put in the FICTION section of the bookstore for a reason. It is just that, fiction. The theory is unsupported and unfounded, and it is nothing more than invalid theories proposed by a man who wishes to milk his story for as much money as possible by fueling the flames of controvery and entice more and more people into buying his merchandise. If you believe anything in this book/movie is true, than I seriously suggest you do your homework, because nothing claimed in this story is true.

I'm not one of these anti-DaVinci protestors who stands outside of theaters with picket signs. However, I do have a seriously problem with how Dan Brown presents this book as being truth and well-supported in fact. By doing so he is misleading many people to believe something that isn't true and in the process is capitalizing off of people's gullibility and ignorance. DaVinci would turn in his grave if he could see his work being defiled by such a man as Dan Brown.

Also, I realize that this thread is about the movie. Since the movie is based by the book, I decided to comment on the book as well considering they both say the same thing.

[Helbaworshipper]

Well, the movie makes you think, even though you could probably never prove the theory anymore.

[marthwmaster]

Neither. It's not a masterpiece, nor is it heresy per se. In fact, I think it forces Christians to do research in order to refute the arguments presented in the film, thus strengthening their faith.

[SnowManZero]

I liked the movie alot, because as Helbaworshipper said, the movie does make you think.

as far as heresy's are concerned, i could care less if this was blown way out of proportion and into some heresy scandal.

heck, i'd probably sit back and watch it all go down.

if some people do determine that it's wrong enough to create riot's over, then they should probably realise that it's based on theory's. if i'm not mistaken, isn't every piece of evidence presented on the show based on theory, not confirmed fact?

or it could be fact and no one belive's it(or someone doesn't want you to belive it) it realy doesn't matter.

there will alway's be someone saying it's wrong, and someone saying it's right. it's just two side's of the coin to me, as far as i'm concerned.

[marthwmaster]

if i'm not mistaken, isn't every piece of evidence presented on the show based on theory, not confirmed fact?

or it could be fact and no one belive's it(or someone doesn't want you to belive it) it realy doesn't matter.

Tell that to Dan Brown. >.>

[Lord Urabus]

if i'm not mistaken, isn't every piece of evidence presented on the show based on theory, not confirmed fact?

or it could be fact and no one belive's it(or someone doesn't want you to belive it) it realy doesn't matter.

Tell that to Dan Brown. >.>

LOL, agreed! XP

I personally dislike the book/movie because whenever Dan Brown is interviewed about the book, even though it says its fiction on the book, he will not say wether or not its meant to be fiction or non-fiction, and says that he'll let the readers decide. >.< It just annoys the crap outta me! -_-

[Helbaworshipper]

Everyone interprets things with a different opinion, I don't want to actually read the book after watching the movie.

[FLARE of the Crimson Flam]

I really liked the book and movie. I thought they were interesting; however i dont believe them.

[Maromi]

I hate Dan Brown. Religion is the most subjective issue, in my opinion, and Brown would be better off stating "It's fiction, and it's just my take, yadda yadda yadda" instead of claiming his writing is supported by fact.

I'm not a religious person whatsoever, and I'm not anti-religious, either, but I really wish Dan Brown would just market the damn thing as a work of fiction, because it is. I read the book to see what all the commotion was about, and I'm not interested in seeing the film.

Heresy against the Church, though? Hardly.

[Chili]

It's up to the readers to decide.

[S1lentOp]

Heresy: adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma

Yes, it is, in fact, a heresy.

[Maromi]

I meant it in less of a denotative way, more connotatively speaking. I don't feel like getting involved in a discussion about what the church considers wrong and whatnot. Again, here, it would help if Dan Brown stuck with the fact that his book is fiction, instead of trying to stir up pointless drama with "his facts."

[Grey]

In fact, I think it forces Christians to do research in order to refute the arguments presented in the film, thus strengthening their faith.

You probably read that in some CNN, NBC, or any other news medium, huh? Because I know I have.

Personally, I think people complain too much about it. If you don't like it or the ideas inside, then don't read/watch it. That is all there is to it. Really, do we need the zealots giving death threats to the author?

On a side question, isn't this book on the Vatican's "books of sin" list?

[marthwmaster]

You probably read that in some CNN, NBC, or any other news medium, huh? Because I know I have.

Either you're really good at insults, or you're really bad at compliments. No, I didn't see it on the news. It's an observation that you don't need to watch CNN to pick up on.

[marthwmaster]

DP

[Grey]

You probably read that in some CNN, NBC, or any other news medium, huh? Because I know I have.

Either you're really good at insults, or you're really bad at compliments. No, I didn't see it on the news. It's an observation that you don't need to watch CNN to pick up on.

XD When I said, 'Because I know I have," I literally meant that I had read an article (CNN.com) that had quoted a priest or someone that had said basically the same you had. That is what I was talking about...wasn't meant to be an insult or compliment...it WAS a question. Though, heh, my insults are usually pretty good and my compliments usually suck..., so it wasn't like any misjustice was given toward me.

But, let's not stray off the topic.

Haseo, I really don't know what to say to you about your comment. You pretty much just restated what has been said before, then told us something about your 'lovely' relationship with your family and your feelings toward them, and then told us to go worry our pretty little heads about something else. Do you have anything worthwhile to say?

[Chili]

Let's just all embrace this idea to wrap up the discussion then. War won't break out in a forum...right?

Cough! The idea: God doesn't expect you to believe in the book and the movie(or just the book at least), or deny its right as a piece of work based on 'Danny' Brown's imagination and inspiration. Just warm up and let it all go away. That's why I posted this topic in the first place: to see how everyone reacts to the book and to see how well they know the meaning of 'religion'.

Dan has a way of convincing others that the fiction in his book was true. Just don't believe all of it, that's what Mom told me before I started. So to be logical(and maybe I'll just be repeating everyone else's words with this), the DaVinci Code is only partly based on the truth and most of it, and I mean most is what's making up the entire plot. Dan wasn't kidding or being cryptic when he'd said, "It's up to the readers to decide." He meant to direct some sort of message with the book he wrote. -unstated for personal and debative reasons-

[Eziekel]

churches arent cults cults are evil and often kill people

[blackphoenix]

I honestly saw nothing against the church, just an alternative to the bible. Nothing really stating that everything is fake, moreso what could be a good possibility (seeing that Dan Brown DOES use alot of historical/archaeological background to prove his points).