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Question about Sakaki (SPOILERS)

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When Sakaki is beaten by Haseo and oven talks to him the the outer dungeon and leaves him to the Asure Knights and they defeat him, does he go into a coma or is he just beaten. (although that really woulden't make sence that he would be just beaten) And if he is put into a coma, is that because the Asure knights are like AIDA (in the fact that they can put people into a coma) or because of Sakaki's infusement (if its a word) with AIDA?
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It's unclear what happens, though if he does go into a coma it's probably due to the AIDA, not the Knights...
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I think I remember reading that Sakaki lost consciousness and, when he woke up, forgot everything about what he did and returned to being a nice person.
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That was in Online Jack, iirc the timing made it ambiguous whether he was recovering due to AK or due to the Rebirth...
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I have to agree with Kuukai's post. If he did go into a coma after that event, it would have hit the news forum the instant you logged out of the game. It's happened with Bordeaux in Vol.1 and Alkaid in Vol.2. Also, in regaurd to the Azure Knights having the power to reduce people into a coma, we don't neccessarily know if they can. Azure Kite can with the power of the bracelet, but he slashed at Sakaki instead of Data Draining him.
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Wow its been a very long time since I've been here.

Anyway if I recall characters with AIDA infections sometimes went into comas after being defeated regardless of Data Draining. It presumably happens to Bordeaux after Vol.2 tournament since she's MIA from then until after the Rebirth happens in Vol.3 (every time you run into Negimaru he freaks out about how he can't find or communicate with her since then). I don't think it was explained why but G.U. had alot of asspulls so who knows.

So basically the Azure's destroy Sakaki's characters totally to get rid of the AIDA and he went comatose until Rebirth upon which he re awoke as his old self again with all of the memory of everything he had done for the last year or so erased (does he even remember the World?) due to the World's mysterious ability to have all young children forget the events that rendered them comatose for some reason.
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_Tri-edge_ wrote:I have to agree with Kuukai's post. If he did go into a coma after that event, it would have hit the news forum the instant you logged out of the game. It's happened with Bordeaux in Vol.1 and Alkaid in Vol.2. Also, in regaurd to the Azure Knights having the power to reduce people into a coma, we don't neccessarily know if they can. Azure Kite can with the power of the bracelet, but he slashed at Sakaki instead of Data Draining him.
Who said anything about the Azure Knights being responsible? I was thinking that since his infection was SO DAMNED DEEP into his character and mind, it'd cause some pretty intense effects to purify them both. It also makes some cool parallels to Sora/Haseo, and prompts Wild Craxy Theories that Sakaki's evil personality is an AI directing Schiksal....*creepy music*
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AuraTwilight wrote:Who said anything about the Azure Knights being responsible?
Um, the person that made this thread.
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Epitaph Of Daybreak wrote:And if he is put into a coma, is that because the Asure knights are like AIDA (in the fact that they can put people into a coma) or because of Sakaki's infusement
The second half of my post was in route with his/her question, not your response.
JimBob wrote:Anyway if I recall characters with AIDA infections sometimes went into comas after being defeated regardless of Data Draining. It presumably happens to Bordeaux after Vol.2 tournament since she's MIA from then until after the Rebirth happens in Vol.3
I disagree. Bordeaux was Data Drained by Haseo after she went beserk with the infection. If what you said was true, then Sakaki would have been in a coma when Haseo and crew defeated him in Vol.2. There's no clear reason how Sakaki returned, but apparently, his infection was so strong, that after he was Data Drained, he still had the infection on his PC. Same for Ovan when you Data Drain him, which is exactly three times, gameplay wise, in the series.
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_Tri-edge_ wrote:I disagree. Bordeaux was Data Drained by Haseo after she went beserk with the infection. If what you said was true, then Sakaki would have been in a coma when Haseo and crew defeated him in Vol.2. There's no clear reason how Sakaki returned, but apparently, his infection was so strong, that after he was Data Drained, he still had the infection on his PC.
Sakaki fell off the bridge at Briona Gwydion, he wasn't Data Drained there.
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_Tri-Edge_...

The Azure Knights were created to destory AIDA...thus, they had the power to destroy Sakaki's AIDA, or whatever remained. I don't think Aura made it so they could send people into comas...it's not in her nature. The AIDA could definitely send people into comas...I think AT's theory is more on the ball...some after-effect of the AIDA being so rooted into his system could've knocked him out and remember...he was pretty much freaking out at the end there. He probably fainted, that little wuss. Otherwise, his system probably suffered quite a shock.

Ovan-He was only Data Drained two times...the first when you battle him in Vol.2, and the other in Vol.3...I don't think breaking his defense barrier counts really,but if you want to...hey, go ahead and count it.

Bordeaux as I recall wasn't infected until early Volume 2...she was knocked out by a scythe attack of Skeith's in a tournament and fell temporarily unconscious in Vol.1 (gaining an even greater grudge against Haseo) but wasn't really affected all that greatly until Vol.2 when she was obsessed with taking out Haseo, that sneaky little cheater.

To be honest, I'd LOVE to see Azure Balmung as a villian,with a broken red bracelet seeking some sort of "purpose"...better him than Sakaki.
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A.R.T. wrote:The Azure Knights were created to destory AIDA...thus, they had the power to destroy Sakaki's AIDA, or whatever remained. I don't think Aura made it so they could send people into comas...it's not in her nature. The AIDA could definitely send people into comas...I think AT's theory is more on the ball...some after-effect of the AIDA being so rooted into his system could've knocked him out and remember...he was pretty much freaking out at the end there. He probably fainted, that little wuss. Otherwise, his system probably suffered quite a shock.
I already addressed that. Only Azure Kite has induced a person into a coma with the Bracelet, but Azure Balmung and Azure Orca never did, so it's possible that they cannot at all.
A.R.T. wrote:Ovan-He was only Data Drained two times...the first when you battle him in Vol.2, and the other in Vol.3...I don't think breaking his defense barrier counts really,but if you want to...hey, go ahead and count it.
Yeah, which is why I said gameplay wise.
MasterZED wrote:Sakaki fell off the bridge at Briona Gwydion, he wasn't Data Drained there.
Precisely, which counters jimbob's response about recalling defeated AIDA infected players going into comas regaurdless of Data Drain.That's why I said if that response was true, then Sakaki would have ended up in a coma during the battle
at Briona Gwydion. About his infection strength, I was refering to the time when he was Data Drained at the Sage Palace Tournament. The infection on his PC was still on him.
A.R.T. wrote:Bordeaux as I recall wasn't infected until early Volume 2...she was knocked out by a scythe attack of Skeith's in a tournament and fell temporarily unconscious in Vol.1 (gaining an even greater grudge against Haseo) but wasn't really affected all that greatly until Vol.2 when she was obsessed with taking out Haseo, that sneaky little cheater.
Okay, but what does that have to do with my post?
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Perhaps I wasn't clear. What I meant was that AIDA PCs would go comatose when their AIDA was destroyed. Sakaki falling off a cliff did nothing and him getting Data Drained did nothing either since his infection was too deep to be removed by data drain. Azure Kite instead manually destroyed his AIDA which did get rid of it and send Sakaki comatose. I believe it was stated somewhere that AK had been attacking players and causing comas because he was attacking what were unknown to Haseo and co AIDA infected PCs some of which didn't even know they were infected themselves.

The Azure Knights could phyiscally destroy AIDA as well as Data Drain it as we see in Vol.2.

Sirus doesn't go into a coma when his AIDA is removed but that could be because Haseo was careful when draining it because he wanted to save Sirus and get back Atoli's epitaph.
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_Tri-edge_ wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:Who said anything about the Azure Knights being responsible?
Um, the person that made this thread.
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Epitaph Of Daybreak wrote:And if he is put into a coma, is that because the Asure knights are like AIDA (in the fact that they can put people into a coma) or because of Sakaki's infusement
I didn't mean that he did i ment if he did. That was what I was asking. (if it was him or AIDA)
I apologize for not making this clear, But thanks for all the answers.
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Sirus doesn't go into a coma when his AIDA is removed but that could be because Haseo was careful when draining it because he wanted to save Sirus and get back Atoli's epitaph.
That, and the AIDA left his PC.
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But wait who said Azure Kite could put people in comas ._.; I mean there was that one video that Yata showed in Vol 1 but I don't think the guy went into a coma or if it was even real (yata could make it or maybe the guy had a small infection) But I don't remember Azure kite putting people in comas, only TRI-EDGE.
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Characters mistakenly believed Azure Kite could go into a coma because people he Data Drained went comatose; however, this was from the AIDA infection.
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Ratsu wrote:But wait who said Azure Kite could put people in comas ._.; I mean there was that one video that Yata showed in Vol 1 but I don't think the guy went into a coma or if it was even real (yata could make it or maybe the guy had a small infection) But I don't remember Azure kite putting people in comas, only TRI-EDGE.
Well, technically, AK has the power to put people into comas, however.....
AuraTwilight wrote:Characters mistakenly believed Azure Kite could go into a coma because people he Data Drained went comatose; however, this was from the AIDA infection.
Sorry if I'm questioning this, but, say AK made a mistake during the AIDA infected player incident, as in, the person he data drained didn't have an AIDA infection. From what you're saying, that player wouldn't be in a coma because he wasn't infected by AIDA? because it sounds like in your post it was the effect of the AIDA that caused him to go comatose instead of the effects of the twilight bracelet.
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it was the effect of the AIDA that caused him to go comatose instead of the effects of the twilight bracelet.
Exactly that.
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