Harald in SIGN

[A.B.]

Harald's speech in Castle was a tad confusing, but I made more sense out of it when I imagined he was addressing it to Emma.
In Phantom I had more trouble because Harald was referring to Morganna without even mentioning her functions, beyond "waking Aura" or "waking despair."
I didn't see how it related to Tsukasa but they saw it immediately - that Tsukasa's mind had been dragged into the center of Harald's plan, by Morganna, to serve as a model for Aura to copy. It bothered me how quickly they realized it.

[AuraTwilight]

Well, it wasn't that Aura was being made to copy Tsukasa, but that his emotional data was being used for her own independant development.

But yea, what the hell is your point? Not to be rude, but this looks like it's just random observations.

[S1lentOp]

But yea, what the hell is your point? Not to be rude, but this looks like it's just random observations.

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing too. A.B., what are you getting at?

[A.B.]

I was curious whether anyone else thought SIGN got strange in spots, though of course people did.
The title's probably misleading. I should have said Crazy Story: What's In It For Me?

[SnowManZero]

I was curious whether anyone else thought SIGN got strange in spots, though of course people did.

strange in spot's? Your watching an anime about people playing a game.Thats strange, in a unique way. Then there's the dumbell monster, the deep and meeningful conversations which they all had. Strange was like blood is to us, for this series.

The title's probably misleading. I should have said Crazy Story: What's In It For Me?

Do you mean the title of this thread or the title ".hack//sign". If its the "sign" then we know why your not on their developmental team. If its the title of this thread, it's very ambiguos and not to mention in your opening post you make it seem like it was just some, as AT and S1lent0p said, observation.

[A.B.]

I meant the title of the thread, yeah.

[Helbaworshipper]

Tsukasa was meant to understand the speech for obvious reasons. He was being used to control Aura in a way, so of course he'd understand Harold, the creator of Aura.

The series wasn't supposed to spell it out for you, you have to take the time to really understand it.

[Xu Yuan]

Actually despite what the SIGN crew says at that point, (Bear, Mimiru, Subaru, even Harald) They were all wrong about Morganna's intentions. "A Warped Aura must not be awakened." This was Harald's greatest fear. He never once gave a thought that Morganna had turned against her role of mother. He thought her rebellion was to mold Aura in the way she desired, not in the way that he desired. He did not possibly think she was trying to preserve herself and halt the birth. Because of Harald's words, the SIGN crew also became a bit confused, "Then Tsukasa... his purpose..." "Was a tool to warp Aura and give birth to her...!" Strangely enough at this point, you see an almost agitated look on Harald's face, that which is never explained.

Though what happens after that is very difficult to discern, Morganna of course whispers to Harald "Harald... Harald! I will not let you get in the way of my will!" Curiously enough, instead of saying Morganna, to his unseen assailant, he says "Please don't... please Aura..." As if it was Aura deleting him. This has caused quite a few problems early on in the .hack fandom. Some say it was the "Warped Aura" that had deleted him, some say it was Morganna that had. In any case, they were wrong.

BT- "So the enemies plan is to give birth to a Warped Aura."
Helba- "Wrong."
Bear- "Wrong?"
Helba- "The enemy has never had any intention to awaken Aura."

She goes on to talk about how Aura and Tsukasa are connected. So you see, it is not abnormal how the SIGN crew and Harald himself (refusing to believe for some reason or another that Morganna had rebelled against her role of Mother) had come to that conclusion.

[Quill]

Curiously enough, instead of saying Morganna, to his unseen assailant, he says "Please don't... please Aura..." As if it was Aura deleting him. This has caused quite a few problems early on in the .hack fandom. Some say it was the "Warped Aura" that had deleted him, some say it was Morganna that had. In any case, they were wrong.

It was Morganna's doing. The 'please, Aura,' part was Hoewick pleading to Morganna not to harm Aura. Hoewick wanted Aura born, his love for Wailand theoretically turned into a tangeble form. Morganna, however, developed a fear of digital death and acting like a human took out Hoewick to help reduce the factors that could lead to Aura wakening.

It didn't matter if Aura awoken good or bad, the awakening would have triggered a termination condition and put an end to Morganna.

[Labyrinth]

You do have to keep in mind that you are watching a story highly based on human psychology and emotions. These things are usually hard to get and nobody will ever see the poit unless the characters tell you what their story is head. I guess that's why you find certain points odd.

[shinku]

Tsukasa was meant to understand the speech for obvious reasons. He was being used to control Aura in a way, so of course he'd understand Harold, the creator of Aura.

The series wasn't supposed to spell it out for you, you have to take the time to really understand it.

Exactly, it wouldn't have been nearly as good if you didn't have to think your way through the anime.

[Tawalaya]

I would like to see Harold make a return. Whether it be in LINK or the third game installment. Just saying. -.-

[A.B.]

Whoa. I am surprised that people are still responding to my post. Yes, I agree the series makes more sense over a period of time. By the way, does anyone know what the slug-leeches in Entanglement and Return are, what Macha was likely saying each time it spoke, and why Evidence was arranged the way it was?

[AuraTwilight]

The leeches are literal "bugs" in the game. Notice they only appear when Morganna is being a psycho ****? What Macha's saying is unknown, but you can guess the gist of it by listening to Tsukasa's responses carefully. Evidence was a recap episode.

[A.B.]

Well, what was Tsukasa talking about in The Eve when he got Helba's message? Was it related to the rest of the episode?

[AuraTwilight]

Well, what was Tsukasa talking about in The Eve when he got Helba's message? Was it related to the rest of the episode?

Can you quote it for me? I don't remember the line, exactly.

[A.B.]

My memory of it is:
He got Helba's summons, said "Helba?" then "I don't know."
What didn't he know: whether he would go or whether he could go?
I, err don't understand the sequence of his escape, because, he didn't return to Subaru but to Crim. Yet, he couldn't have escaped to either without help, right? Unless he could respond but didn't to both Helba and Subaru, weirdly.

[AuraTwilight]

I think he just didn't know if he wanted to answer the call of a stranger or not. As for warping to Crim, the Hulle Granz Cathedral is where he always meets people. He was probably hoping to find Subaru.

[A.B.]

Oh okay, thanks. That makes enough sense.

[Uniedge]

Well, it wasn't that Aura was being made to copy Tsukasa, but that his emotional data was being used for her own independant development.

But yea, what the hell is your point? Not to be rude, but this looks like it's just random observations.

Yes, Tsukasa was there to help Aura in her development, nut not in that the right way. Morganna mode gone was using him/her to manipulate aura in to a Darker version of the UAI.