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Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:32 am
by zaseo
Christianity is a corrupt piece of crap. It was only started by Constantine to try, and keep his Roman empire together. Constantine basically took Paganism, and the bible and mix them together.
As far as the Sabbath is concerned it is Sat. The Sabbath is the 7th day, and it never changed. Constantine changed it to Sunday.
If someone follows Christ they shouldn't follow Easter, Halloween, Valentines, and Christmas.
Christmas is based on worshiping the Saturn god. It is a Pagan Holiday.
Jeremiah 10
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Modern day Christmas tree

Easter is based on the sex goddess Venus. Also if he die, and rose 3 days later Friday to Sunday makes no sense. Wed to Sat makes sense.

Christianity the word isn't in the bible. Also look at the history of most Popes. If the Popes was so good then why would their have to be a separation in the church during the Middle Ages.

Prayer beads usually have those "people in the bible". We're not suppose to have any graven images of the Messiah, or the people of the bible.

Christianity doesn't fit with the bible.

Also I'm no conspiracy theorists. Those guys like Alex Jones are nothing but disinfo agents.

Yah doesn't dwell in any temple made by the hands of man. In other words he isn't in any of these churches.

Society is full of so many lies, and religion, and the media is the source of these problems. America isn't a free land.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:34 am
by Keyaki
shugo_lover wrote:My friend once told me this and I kind of have to agree with her. Why have a religion if you can't be happy with it? Doesn't it seem unfair? I mean I seriously doubt that most people 'choose' to be gay. Sure. some people might, but most don't. There just born that way. Thus the whole thing with scientists and how they think it's due to an imbalance in the brain and all that stuff that scientists think. After all so many people puke out stuff like 'God made you this way! it's who you are!' but why would god make you that way then hate you for it?
(The above probably made no sense at all. Sorry, if you think that. I don't think I can really explain it to where it makes sense)
No, no. You said it perfectly. And I for one agree.

1)
Christianity is a corrupt piece of crap. It was only started by Constantine to try, and keep his Roman empire together. Constantine basically took Paganism, and the bible and mix them together.
And I'm sure you 'religion' whatever it is , is a bazillion times better.

2)

As far as the Sabbath is concerned it is Sat. The Sabbath is the 7th day, and it never changed. Constantine changed it to Sunday.
Well no ones made any objections so far. And God hasn't really came down and reign his anger on us either. So I'd say nothing broken

3)
If someone follows Christ they shouldn't follow Easter, Halloween, Valentines, and Christmas.
Christmas is based on worshiping the Saturn god. It is a Pagan Holiday.
Jeremiah 10
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Modern day Christmas tree
I celebrate all those things (well except valentines day) and I'm a born Christian. Yet you say you shouldn't celebrate. Who the hell do you think you are to talk that? There you go judging again.

4)
Easter is based on the sex goddess Venus. Also if he die, and rose 3 days later Friday to Sunday makes no sense. Wed to Sat makes sense.
I had forgotten the Easter bunny was a goddess. What does it matter what area of 3 days of the week he rise on. It wasn't his choice to get offed by the Romans on Friday, why should that matter?

5)
Christianity the word isn't in the bible. Also look at the history of most Popes. If the Popes was so good then why would their have to be a separation in the church during the Middle Ages.
The Crusades were a very confusing and controversial time.

6)
Prayer beads usually have those "people in the bible". We're not suppose to have any graven images of the Messiah, or the people of the bible.
We all have the right to choose our way of worship, that the gift of something called FREE-WILL, which is also connected to all the other things you're opinions so strongly dictated against.

7)
Christianity doesn't fit with the bible.
But you're opinions and beliefs do? Go back in time and go tell Luke, Matt, John, Mark, Isaiah, Ezekiel, and all the rest of the Evangelist of what you think, see what they do.

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Also I'm no conspiracy theorists. Those guys like Alex Jones are nothing but disinfo agents.
What' you're saying speaks other-wise. See #3 and #9

9)
Yah doesn't dwell in any temple made by the hands of man. In other words he isn't in any of these churches.

Society is full of so many lies, and religion, and the media is the source of these problems. America isn't a free land.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:53 am
by shugo_lover
Your saying my religion is crap? You ass! Where are you even getting all this from?
I love how acts like he's god and knows everything.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:55 am
by Keyaki
shugo_lover wrote:Your saying my religion is crap? You ass! Where are you even getting all this from?
I love how acts like he's god and knows everything.
Take it easy, SL. We're not condemning other people here. The least we can do is give the chance to voice his thoughts and debate against them fairly and without going off the depend and immaturely flaming and bashing. (Besides he's said stuff like this before, should've expected it. )

Yea I know, that got me riled too.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:06 am
by shugo_lover
I know I know. I'm not even really religious at all, but to me that's highly offensive :( You can think what ever you want about other peoples religions, but keep it to yourself. That is a touchy subject for people. Do you mind if I ask what religion you are if any?

Keyaki your right. I should have seen it coming.

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 America isn't a free land.
Nothing is a free land.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:58 am
by zaseo
At first I was religious, but I saw too much corruption. I don't know everything, but I shall follow Yah, and Yahoshua Yeshua(not sure on spelling the of Christ's name) The corruption in religion is too great. I also have a question. How can the name be translated into Jesus if there isn't any J sound, or letter in Hebrew? The J letter came into existence in the 1600s. In the 1611 King James Jesus was written as Iesus.

Maybe this thread should just be locked before I say anything that is considered crazy by the general public. I shall still keep my views, and follow Yah. I shall still say HalleluYah which means praise to Yah with my heart. I still have growing to do, and Yah shall be my guide. I may be hated, and considered worthless to society, but I shall be ok if I have Yah.

Re: Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:26 am
by Kuukai
zaseo wrote:Christianity is a corrupt piece of crap. It was only started by Constantine to try, and keep his Roman empire together. Constantine basically took Paganism, and the bible and mix them together.
As far as the Sabbath is concerned it is Sat. The Sabbath is the 7th day, and it never changed. Constantine changed it to Sunday.
If someone follows Christ they shouldn't follow Easter, Halloween, Valentines, and Christmas.
Christmas is based on worshiping the Saturn god. It is a Pagan Holiday.
Jeremiah 10
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
Modern day Christmas tree

Easter is based on the sex goddess Venus. Also if he die, and rose 3 days later Friday to Sunday makes no sense. Wed to Sat makes sense.

Christianity the word isn't in the bible. Also look at the history of most Popes. If the Popes was so good then why would their have to be a separation in the church during the Middle Ages.

Prayer beads usually have those "people in the bible". We're not suppose to have any graven images of the Messiah, or the people of the bible.

Christianity doesn't fit with the bible.
Great job, you shot down every argument I wasn't making. You keep repeating a tirade against organized religion even though I'm not arguing the opposite. Are you some kind of bot?
zaseo wrote:Also I'm no conspiracy theorists.
Uhh...
zaseo wrote:Society is full of so many lies, and religion, and the media is the source of these problems. America isn't a free land.
zaseo wrote:Albert Pike predicted 3 WWs. A world war starting from the Middle East is likely to happen later.

Since the government is the biggest conspiracy ever they can control anything. Right now many Americans are being mind control with subliminal messages in the sub conscious area of the brain. This is the best, and easiest way to gain control over most people. Many things in the world have their normal meanings, and symbolic meanings.

Micheal Jackson was against the government, and had to be killed for it. More people knew about him, than any other person in the world. A person like that has influence to changed the world. I never been a rap fan, but Tupac was killed for the same reasons. If you listen to his song "They Don't Give A F About Us" you would hear things that make you wonder whats he talking about.
And what about fluoridation and precious bodily fluids?

It doesn't matter how your write a name. My name in Japanese is totally different and I'm not magically distorted by this.
zaseo wrote:Maybe this thread should just be locked before I say anything that is considered crazy by the general public.
Since you can't stop infuriating people, sure. Honestly from post 1 I thought this thread on this board wasn't the greatest idea.

In conclusion, lots of people believe lots of things. It's just a fact of life. There are people in my state who firmly believe the earth is flat. There are people who believe every airplane is spraying us with some unknown chemical, hence the "trails" they leave behind them, and every single aeronautical engineer in the world is in on it somehow and will tell you it's physics because they're lying. Don't let these people get to you, especially not on the internet.