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---If you don't wanna waste the time to read my arguement, please skip down to the "On Topic Post"---

:shock:

.. And here I thought we dropped it... Well then...
EyeofCalamity wrote:If that were true than Cubia would already have a form before the defeat of Skeith.
OFFICIAL Bandai Terminal Disc wrote:File #02 - Mutation - Geek's Utopia

Using the power of the Bracelet, Kite defeated Skeith. But
instead of rescuing his friend Orca from the coma... Kite's
victory actually lead to the birth of a new, frightening enemy,
Cubia.
It means the Cubia that was following Kite around, not the Cubia Program. The Cubia Program existed long, LONG before Kite joined The World.
Terminal Disc wrote:File #03 - Outbreak - Guilty Universe

While discussing the Cursed Waves described in the Epitaph
of Twilight Wiseman told Kite his theory that in order to
stop the virus from spreading further he had to defeat the
five remaining Phases as well as Cubia. Wiseman's theory
was of extreme interest to those of us working on Project
G.U. It helped explain the relationship between the
Bracelet and Cubia;
and Aura and Morganna's Eight Phases.
As if responding to the call of the Bracelet, Cubia's strength
grew enormous.
I don't see what you were trying to prove with this...
Terminal Disc wrote:File #04 - Quarentine - Genesis Of Ultima

Kite: Aura, I have something I want to ask you. You said that
I shouldn't fight Cubia. But why?

Aura: Cubia is the shadow. When there is light burning in the
darkness, a shadow is born. When the bracelet appeared
in this world, Cubia was born as well. The bracelet and
Cubia are opposite sides of the same coin. Therefore...
if you defeat Cubia the bracelet will be destroyed
.
It was a metaphor, get it? Obviously not...
The Bracelet and Cubia were two sides of the same entity. And Cubia was the anti-existence of the Bracelet. To defeat Cubia, Kite would have to abandon the Bracelet.
That was only to defeat the Cubia "AI" that was following Kite because of the Braclet. That was merely an physical form the program created to combat with Kite. If the Braclet was truely the anti-existance of the braclet, there would be no reason for Cubia to be back in //G.U. As it explains in the Interim Report 07, the Cubia Program activates when there are massive distortions in the net. If you truely believe that Cubia was destroyed when the Braclet was destroyed, then this whole topic is meaningless.. You're basically saying that that isn't Cubia Alpha in the video. My guess it's just another A.I that the Cubia Program created to combat the R.A. system..

Who am I supposed to believe, you or the Terminal Disk?

(Now could we please drop this. Yes, I realize I'm adding onto it, but I can't just sit still while you guys are saying I was pwned. I wouldn't have posted this if you guys didn't say "PWNED" over and over again. I'll stop now...)

---On Topic Post---

I doubt there is a connection between AIDA and Cubia, Cubia's probably just comming out to put a stop the the R.A. System that the Epitaph Users are proceeding with to restore Aura since it's causing a major disruption in the net.

Although since AIDA is something that shouldn't exist, perhaps it finally becomes something so powerful that it is finally recognized as a threat to The World, so Cubia comes to stop it. But if that were the case than why would Haseo need to fight Cubia?

Cubia could come to fight an AIDA but runs into Haseo first, then Haseo defeats him and then has to fight the AIDA, or it could be trying to prevent the R.A. System, which seems like it probably will happen (trying to do the R.A. System I mean, not the theory).

Makes me wonder if he'll be the final boss, or something before the final boss.
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EyeofCalamity wrote:Yes, I realize I'm adding onto it, but I can't just sit still while you guys are saying I was pwned.
Maybe... just MAYBE... you were wrong.
---On Topic Post---

I doubt there is a connection between AIDA and Cubia, Cubia's probably just comming out to put a stop the the R.A. System that the Epitaph Users are proceeding with to restore Aura since it's causing a major disruption in the net.

Although since AIDA is something that shouldn't exist, perhaps it finally becomes something so powerful that it is finally recognized as a threat to The World, so Cubia comes to stop it. But if that were the case than why would Haseo need to fight Cubia?

Cubia could come to fight an AIDA but runs into Haseo first, then Haseo defeats him and then has to fight the AIDA, or it could be trying to prevent the R.A. System, which seems like it probably will happen (trying to do the R.A. System I mean, not the theory).

Makes me wonder if he'll be the final boss, or something before the final boss.
He could probably be the central source of AIDA, the ultimate anti-existence for the Epitaph Users.
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Bulletcatcher wrote:Maybe... just MAYBE... you were wrong.[/qoute]

One could take that the wrong way. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just MAYBE, you were wrong? Since I'm getting my info off a DVD and the Terminal disk and you're getting yours from a wiki website.
bulletcatcher wrote:He could probably be the central source of AIDA, the ultimate anti-existence for the Epitaph Users.
Huh, never thought about that... That's a cool way of thinking about it.
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EyeofCalamity wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:Maybe... just MAYBE... you were wrong.
One could take that the wrong way. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just MAYBE, you were wrong? Since I'm getting my info off a DVD and the Terminal disk and you're getting yours from a wiki website.
And the official fanbook .hack//ANALYSIS, which explicitly states what's right and wrong in the Easter Eggs.
bulletcatcher wrote:He could probably be the central source of AIDA, the ultimate anti-existence for the Epitaph Users.
Huh, never thought about that... That's a cool way of thinking about it.
Yeah, I would like it that way. Cubia <Alpha> seems to originate from Ovan, who is the center of the AIDA, from what we've seen. He also seems unbeatable in the trailer, which gives a hint to the "final boss".
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Thank you Zer0 for dropping it, you've definetly shown who the more mature people are...
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EyeofCalamity wrote:Thank you Zer0 for dropping it, you've definetly shown who the more mature people are...
Let's not get personal here. We're just trying to prove that which has already been confirmed countless times before.

Let's drop it now and get back to <Alpha>.
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Bulletcatcher wrote:
EyeofCalamity wrote:Thank you Zer0 for dropping it, you've definetly shown who the more mature people are...
Let's not get personal here. We're just trying to prove that which has already been confirmed countless times before.

Let's drop it now and get back to <Alpha>.
*sighs* Fine.. No point in going on with it since it's obvious we're never going to see eye to eye on that subject.. Let's just try to forget about it... It's not like Cubia is the center of the universe all of the sudden...

I too wonder why he has Alpha in his name now... Is there a a Cubia Beta as well? Cubia Omega? You think if it was something inside of a game world it would get some what of a more original name instead of just saying it's the Alpha.
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Zer0 wrote:Why do you think it's called Alpha? An alpha is usually a pre-release of something, prone to testing.
Perhaps he is something smaller than what we thought of him, a test for something bigger.

Or a test for Haseo's abilities?... But I doubt that.

Another definition of Alpha is "beginning".

Maybe Cubia <Alpha> is the beginning of an end.

Or we could simply go with the typical "It sounds kewl" theory... which is, at the moment, the most likely case.

EDIT: Alpha, Beta, and Cepha were towns back in Fragment.
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im pretty sure ive herd this before and im gunna go with it. Cubia Alpha could be cubia before he is fully grown or whatever, thats why tis Cubia Alpha, makes the most sence to me and he is shaped liek and egg.


I like the root town one tho.
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mr.classybear wrote:im pretty sure ive herd this before and im gunna go with it. Cubia Alpha could be cubia before he is fully grown or whatever, thats why tis Cubia Alpha, makes the most sence to me and he is shaped liek and egg.


I like the root town one tho.
If it does mean that Cubia<Alpha> is some sort of incomplete version of Cubia, then that leaves room for another .hack series... :wink:
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Yeah, the towns that were around in SIGN through Dusk were Delta, Theta, Lambda, Sigma, and Omega...

I'm gonna go with the whole "it sounds cool" theory, just because if he popped up out of no where, you'd think he'd have a garbled up name.
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yeah, i wonder if they iwll make another. But if it is an imcomplete Cubia, then they should have the complete one too. This is offtopic, but does anyoen kno what the giants floatign this is in the trailer, is it a city? Net slum?( i think its net slum cuz of how it looks :P)
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Zer0 wrote:Call me crazy but...
What if Cubia alpha is cubia's form before any Player Characters (read: Not avatars) use data drain? Perhaps only a little information is left over from an avatar data drain. Then again, what about those things you use in Yata's room to fight Avatars again? Could those have something to do with it?
The Terminal? That's quite a thought. You put genome data into the Terminal to activate simulations, so maybe the Terminal has something to do with it.

It still seems far'fetched, since simulations are for gameplay purposes only.
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I'm pretty sure that the thing in Yata's room is just for show, fun, and practice. Nothing to actually do with the storyline. Because even if an avatar is Data Drained it still exists and the Epitaph Users can still use them.

I say this because, after I beat the game, I want to be able to fight Cubia again. X3
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in the trailer it shows 6 of the infinity 8 goign to the serpant of lore, maybe that has to do with the story, not the simulator hting?


EDIT: Just incase anyones wondering, the first time they show the flying city thing is, 1:14 min threw the trailer.
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mr.classybear wrote:in the trailer it shows 6 of the infinity 8 goign to the serpant of lore, maybe that has to do with the story, not the simulator hting?


EDIT: Just incase anyones wondering, the first time they show the flying city thing is, 1:14 min threw the trailer.
I think they were called by Yata to see something important, which explains the surprised looks on Haseo and Atoli.
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oh ok
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mr.classybear wrote:in the trailer it shows 6 of the infinity 8 goign to the serpant of lore, maybe that has to do with the story, not the simulator hting?
well, its before xth form upgrade.

my guess:
-Sakaki attacks Yata in the serpent of lore, stealing his floaty lotus flower thing
-since none of the GU members (read: infinity 6....0_o) can't get in contact with Yata, or because someone baits them all there, who knows, they head there to find out what happened to him
-only to find:
a) yata infected, proceeding into an avatar fight
b) yata nowhere to be found, but he left some sort of message to them, which explains what's supposed to happen next in the plot
c) a gate in the serpent of lore itself that leads to the next location in the game. (maybe the tetris block space?)

-anyway, long story short, it ends up not solving everything, and they now have to head Lumina Cloth to compete in the last tournament, where Sakaki is now sitting on yata's flower.
-stuff happens, haseo is infected by an aida
-haseo is DD'ed/has a death and rebirth experience, and gets Xth form.
-insert the forest of pain somewhere around here, thanks to taihaku either before or after being cured of his AIDA infection.
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makes sence
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ashley wrote:since none of the GU members (read: infinity 6....0_o) can't get in contact with Yata, or because someone baits them all there, who knows, they head there to find out what happened to him
Ashlay they are called the Infinity 8, not the Infinity 6. If there is only 6 of them together, they're just 6 of the Infinity 8.

Do you mean since none of them can get in contact with Yatta? Because if none of them can't get in contact with Yata that means that all of them can.
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