Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

[Keyaki]

People say that in the bible it says that homosexuality is a sin.I beleive in God AND I'm gay so I refuse to believe that I'm going to hell for who I am.People think it's a choice!If I could have chosen I would have chosen to be straight just to make my life easier.I tried being with a girl(not going into details)and she just confirmed my sexuality.And zaseo,no offense,but don't you think it's a bit silly?People turn gay because they copy what they see on t.v.?Really?Well,maybe a few confused kids.But I feel that I'm too old(although I'm 17) not to know what I like.Although there was this lady at my old job.She was married for like 7 years with 2 kids and one day she woke up and boom,lesbian.I honestly don't understand how things like that happen.

Homosexuality is a choice. There is no such thing as the Gay Gene, or someone lacking genes to be attracted to the opposite gender. People choose to be gay because of subliminal messages, or because they see it on TV. Sexuality is something that people have complete control over. They sure are pushing their homosexual/gay agenda. It helps with population control, and makes America relationship problems worst.

Because of subliminal messages or because they see it on T.V.?
You can't be serious...?
If so, I totally don't agree with that.

I can tell you right now, that's total ****

[zaseo]

There is no such thing as the gay gene. The media is promoting people to have sex, but to also produce fewer offspring. Most society's problems comes from our cultural, and the things they put in our food. Ever hear of aspartame, and fluoride? Google aspartame and look what comes up. Our cultural is turning backwards. The church teaches love no matter what while they worship their pagan gods, and white Jesus (not really the Messiah and having images is in violation of the commandments). If the church taught people to read the bible then people would know that the real Jews are dark skinned.

Death to Christianity and all of its man made doctrines.

[Resplendence]

I didn't choose to be this way.You obviously don't know what you're talking about.You have to be gay to truly understand.Trust me,if it was a choice I rather be straight.I just don't like girls.I tried.And failed.I'm not saying it's in our genes.I just like boys.I don't like going deep into that bible stuff.People tell me how it says gays go to hell.If that's the case then I'm going to hell,but I just don't like girls.Those who don't understand frustrate me,but I can sympathize because they can't even relate.Can you honestly say those things and be 100% sure that what you are saying is correct?I would say "walk a mile in my shoes",but that's impossible,because you can't just decide you want to be gay.It's wether or not you are comfortable with that sex,and you find that sex more attractive.It's not "oh,I think I'll be gay today because I saw a gay guy on t.v.".It doesn't work like that kids.It's a bit more complicated.

[zaseo]

People do have choice. The natural order of science is being thrown off. Sex should be for reproduction not pleasure. The Feminist Agenda is destroying marriage, and the roles between the genders. In many cases the woman is the king while the man is the queen subconsciously. Women control this world, but the male are the figure head. When the media, and church plays on the emotions of women they can easily control them.

There is a different in Women's Civil Rights, and the Feminist Movement.

They have successfully gave women the idea of being independent without needing men. They see man as evil in most cases. They also are emasculating men to fix their agenda. People care more about pleasure than reproduction. This is part of why relationships aren't working well in America. The media influences what people want from a relationship. People run to the media, and church for everything.

Pleasure from sex is good (well that what everyone says is it really worth the pleasure all of the time?), but that pleasure can lead to thinks like STDS, babies that aren't wanted, and so on.

Unnatural sex is scientifically bad for your health as well. In normal sex that can reproduce the man gets his nutrients that he would have lost at climax. In other forms such as sodomy, and masturbation people begin to have adverse effects on their health.

Google over masturbation you'll might be surprise.

[AZURE-KITE]

@Resplendence: I understand you, i'm starting to have problems too...

@zaseo: Homosexuality or bi it's not a choise!!!!!!, It's just how we F*CKING ARE!!

[Resplendence]

@Resplendence: I understand you, i'm starting to have problems too...

@zaseo: Homosexuality or bi it's not a choise!!!!!!, It's just how we F*CKING ARE!!

Thank you!See?I'm the only one.Sex WAS for reproduction.Now most people just get pleasure out of it.Besides,for 2 guys it's impossible to have a baby through natural birth.So what does that mean?Gay guys aren't aloud to have sex?The only reason WHY they do it is for pleasure.But,if that's what you think then I respect that,even if I don't agree.I know who I am,I know what I am and I know what I like.No matter what what anyone says to me,but know this:Everything you read in the internet is not always true.Only a fool believes everything he comes across in the internet.An example would be people spreading rumors ON THE INTERNET about Justin Beiber being gay,yet he's dating Selena Gomez lol.I have to go now,I have more to say but I'm in school right now and the bell just rang >.>;; So until later.

[zaseo]

@Resplendence: I understand you, i'm starting to have problems too...

@zaseo: Homosexuality or bi it's not a choise!!!!!!, It's just how we F*CKING ARE!!

Thank you!See?I'm the only one.Sex WAS for reproduction.Now most people just get pleasure out of it.Besides,for 2 guys it's impossible to have a baby through natural birth.So what does that mean?Gay guys aren't aloud to have sex?The only reason WHY they do it is for pleasure.But,if that's what you think then I respect that,even if I don't agree.I know who I am,I know what I am and I know what I like.No matter what what anyone says to me,but know this:Everything you read in the internet is not always true.Only a fool believes everything he comes across in the internet.An example would be people spreading rumors ON THE INTERNET about Justin Beiber being gay,yet he's dating Selena Gomez lol.I have to go now,I have more to say but I'm in school right now and the bell just rang >.>;; So until later.

Sex should be for reproduction, but when it becomes for pleasure society won't last long. The internet, and media are tools of misguidance by the elite. Homosexuality shall be the norm soon. In fact the bullying thing is going to be about homosexuality. People who don't accepted it shall be flamed, and hate by the general public. Even the ones who follow Christianity, and any other religion will hate people who're against homosexuality.

When sex is purely for pleasure think how this, and the next generation shall turn out. When sexuality liberation is in full effect people shall think they have freedom in freedom in America. People never truly had freedom in this country unless they had some connections. The elite are very smart playing the religious against the gays. Its like the "traditional religious", and gays are opposites sides of the same coin. They're both being played against each other.

[Resplendence]

Um...where have you been?This generation is already screwed up,and the next will most likely be corrupted too.In the end it's all up to the individual and the choices he/she makes.I agree with you on the part of society though.People send the wrong messages and recieve the wrong messages.It's truly a shame that it's hard to find someone my age who doesn't drink,smoke,or isn't a virgin anymore.Losing your virginity at 14 isn't cool.These young people don't understand that they're ruining themselves.As for homosexuality becoming a norm,I'm not so sure about that.But if it happens I will be surprised.Honestly,I don't know.Everything is a mess right now.I just hope nothing extreme happens.

[Pagani]

As far as I'm concerned, let those who engage in such activities roam free, otherwise, as The United States of America, where our main attributes are freedom, Justice, and equality, we'll pretty much be labeled as hypocrites throughout the world.

[Hybrid]

As far as I'm concerned, let those who engage in such activities roam free, otherwise, as The United States of America, where our main attributes are freedom, Justice, and equality, we'll pretty much be labeled as hypocrites throughout the world.

The world kind of already views us like that, sad to say...

Um...where have you been?This generation is already screwed up,and the next will most likely be corrupted too.In the end it's all up to the individual and the choices he/she makes.I agree with you on the part of society though.People send the wrong messages and recieve the wrong messages.It's truly a shame that it's hard to find someone my age who doesn't drink,smoke,or isn't a virgin anymore.Losing your virginity at 14 isn't cool.These young people don't understand that they're ruining themselves.As for homosexuality becoming a norm,I'm not so sure about that.But if it happens I will be surprised.Honestly,I don't know.Everything is a mess right now.I just hope nothing extreme happens.

I'm a virgin, and I also don't drink or do drugs. While others will disagree, I know that I personally don't need an outside substance to distort my views and thoughts just to have fun. I'd rather do that on my own.

[Resplendence]

As far as I'm concerned, let those who engage in such activities roam free, otherwise, as The United States of America, where our main attributes are freedom, Justice, and equality, we'll pretty much be labeled as hypocrites throughout the world.

The world kind of already views us like that, sad to say...
Yeah I totally agree with you there.

Um...where have you been?This generation is already screwed up,and the next will most likely be corrupted too.In the end it's all up to the individual and the choices he/she makes.I agree with you on the part of society though.People send the wrong messages and recieve the wrong messages.It's truly a shame that it's hard to find someone my age who doesn't drink,smoke,or isn't a virgin anymore.Losing your virginity at 14 isn't cool.These young people don't understand that they're ruining themselves.As for homosexuality becoming a norm,I'm not so sure about that.But if it happens I will be surprised.Honestly,I don't know.Everything is a mess right now.I just hope nothing extreme happens.

I'm a virgin, and I also don't drink or do drugs. While others will disagree, I know that I personally don't need an outside substance to distort my views and thoughts just to have fun. I'd rather do that on my own.

Yes!!That's what I'm saying!I'm the same.I'm not a smoker or drinker.And I'm still a virgin too.It really isn't that hard to have fun without these things!The students in my school are so ignorant.80% of my school smokes and/or drinks.Sad?VERY.It's hard to make friends here who don't try talking you into smoking or drinking.And their parents let them,too!!What is this world coming to?...

[zaseo]

Our morals, and values are very screwed up thanks to religion, and the media. They may say don't do this or that, but religious people are the biggest of the hypocrites. What is in the old bible is true, but all these Christians do is pick verses, and twist it. People go to church because they want a blessing in the form of living a good life or at least making it, paying the bills, and material wealth. People really don't care about Yah (God). They just care about a good life.

Homosexuality shall become the thing soon. It is very prevalence because sex has become about pleasure. These days heteros, and homos do many of the same sex acts.The heteros are in a way homo for doing homo sex acts. I have a question. What is the point of someone claiming to be straight when they do Sodomy? Sodomy sex acts can be done by both genders to the same gender. If a girl was going to do Sodomy on a guy than what is the different if another guy does Sodomy on a guy?

[Resplendence]

Our morals, and values are very screwed up thanks to religion, and the media. They may say don't do this or that, but religious people are the biggest of the hypocrites. What is in the old bible is true, but all these Christians do is pick verses, and twist it. People go to church because they want a blessing in the form of living a good life or at least making it, paying the bills, and material wealth. People really don't care about Yah (God). They just care about a good life.

Homosexuality shall become the thing soon. It is very prevalence because sex has become about pleasure. These days heteros, and homos do many of the same sex acts.The heteros are in a way homo for doing homo sex acts. I have a question. What is the point of someone claiming to be straight when they do Sodomy? Sodomy sex acts can be done by both genders to the same gender. If a girl was going to do Sodomy on a guy than what is the different if another guy does Sodomy on a guy?

Good question.I'm not sure there is difference.Let me see if I understand by giving an example.There's this boy in my school.He told me that he's straight and that he likes girls,but wouldn't mind doing anything with a guy.I don't think that makes him straight anymore.Is it something like that?Or is it like if a guy does something with a girl,and does the same thing with a guy,would there be a difference?Honestly I'n not sure.He prefers a girl to do that to him but if a guy does that to him does it make him bi?Maybe?

[Azure Knight]

Unnatural sex is scientifically bad for your health as well. In normal sex that can reproduce the man gets his nutrients that he would have lost at climax. In other forms such as sodomy, and masturbation people begin to have adverse effects on their health.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Good question.I'm not sure there is difference.Let me see if I understand by giving an example.There's this boy in my school.He told me that he's straight and that he likes girls,but wouldn't mind doing anything with a guy.I don't think that makes him straight anymore.Is it something like that?Or is it like if a guy does something with a girl,and does the same thing with a guy,would there be a difference?Honestly I'n not sure.He prefers a girl to do that to him but if a guy does that to him does it make him bi?Maybe?

That would probably make him bisexual. One of my good friends is the same way; she says that she wouldn't mind doing doing anything with a girl, but when it comes to being in a real relationship she says she'd only go out with a guy.

Ever hear of aspartame, and fluoride?

What does Sweet N' Low have to do with homosexuality?

[Keyaki]

Unnatural sex is scientifically bad for your health as well. In normal sex that can reproduce the man gets his nutrients that he would have lost at climax. In other forms such as sodomy, and masturbation people begin to have adverse effects on their health.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

Seriously, its already been said that masturbation does not result in the loss of anything. If its in the testicles its not in used of the rest of the body. As if the body would use something that far down anyway. You'd think AT smacked that into you. And sodomy is just sick.

[zaseo]

Masturbation when done a lot will start to drain someone. I know the body has to get rid of sperm at times, but that is what wet dreams are for. I'm sure people don't have wet dreams very often. I bet when people masturbate they climax more than once. After all they do say it is that good. If guys keep losing their sperm it drains their vitality. Also isn't masturbation another form of sodomy anyway? It isn't natural, and Yah doesn't want us males to waist their seeds. It takes nutrients and other stuff to make sperm. They body can produce more of it, but it will take some more nutrients.

I really don't want to explain this, but people are know to get cancer and other crap when they do oral sex on girls. Also the back is not suppose to be opened up. The back is for getting rid of waste. That is a small start. Must I really explain all of the dangers, and adverse effects of sodomy. I can make a list, but I rather not.

Fluoride has nothing to do with homosexuality. I was pointing out some things that the FED puts in our food.

[Azure Knight]

Masturbation when done a lot will start to drain someone. I know the body has to get rid of sperm at times, but that is what wet dreams are for. I'm sure people don't have wet dreams very often. I bet when people masturbate they climax more than once. After all they do say it is that good. If guys keep losing their sperm it drains their vitality. Also isn't masturbation another form of sodomy anyway? It isn't natural, and Yah doesn't want us males to waist their seeds. It takes nutrients and other stuff to make sperm. They body can produce more of it, but it will take some more nutrients.

Your body is constantly producing sperm, anyway. It's not like if you don't release any of it your sperm level caps out and you stop making it. Even if you don't masturbate or have sex, you'll continue to produce sperm, so whether or not you masturbate has no effect on your vitality.

I really don't want to explain this, but people are know to get cancer and other crap when they do oral sex on girls. Also the back is not suppose to be opened up. The back is for getting rid of waste. That is a small start. Must I really explain all of the dangers, and adverse effects of sodomy. I can make a list, but I rather not.

Again, gonna need some proof. Just a link to a scientific study, simple as that.

[Kuukai]

[Resplendence]

Masturbation when done a lot will start to drain someone. I know the body has to get rid of sperm at times, but that is what wet dreams are for. I'm sure people don't have wet dreams very often. I bet when people masturbate they climax more than once. After all they do say it is that good. If guys keep losing their sperm it drains their vitality. Also isn't masturbation another form of sodomy anyway? It isn't natural, and Yah doesn't want us males to waist their seeds. It takes nutrients and other stuff to make sperm. They body can produce more of it, but it will take some more nutrients.

I really don't want to explain this, but people are know to get cancer and other crap when they do oral sex on girls. Also the back is not suppose to be opened up. The back is for getting rid of waste. That is a small start. Must I really explain all of the dangers, and adverse effects of sodomy. I can make a list, but I rather not.

Fluoride has nothing to do with homosexuality. I was pointing out some things that the FED puts in our food.

Yah?I just realized that.What's you religion,if I may ask?

[AZURE-KITE]

i think he's the same religion i am, i was going to ask that too