dopplegenger

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:10 pm

I agree with Millenium Fox. For Storyline justification, I say, "lawlz, Doppel doesn't know it's an illegal class."

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:50 pm

mabye we are over thinking it....or,as the maker of this thread,i am.....mabye they will throw in the duel guns haseo for the players to enjoy,whithout explaining.

but as a known game designer(i hate bringing this up) i can say will an educated opinion,that i shall crush these theorys will honesty and know how:

theory:
An anti haker device that allows the system to pick up on hacked data as a failsafe
truth:
wrong.the reason it's called hacked data is becuase it is outside system rights,and if they COULD identify it,they would ban the data type altogether,and also not all hackers work with the same style of hacking.

Theory:
The doppleganger will read his data,as it is a mirror of the player with dopple pre-stats.
Truth:
wrong,and right:
the dopple will not be able to read the hacked data,for reasons i explained above.the dopple has been said on here to have had it's own database that it uses,which is right,but it dosn't work the way wiki explains it,as dopples abilitys and skill levels follow haseo's.

Theory:
The doppleganger will read the duel guns data and copy it,because it is just data in the game,and can be read if it's there.
truth:
Wrong,and I'm tired of saying it.Not all data is the same,and it would be WAY out of the regular specs due to being a HACKER weapon.

As a closing,lets all think of the phrase:

Hacked Data.
think HACKED...Hack...chopped up data,unrecognisable bits of information spliced together by hackers that looks hagered and uninterprible to the system.

I still say it will stay as 3rd form adept rouge with the base 3 weapons.

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:54 pm

Azure crow wrote:mabye we are over thinking it....or,as the maker of this thread,i am.....mabye they will throw in the duel guns haseo for the players to enjoy,whithout explaining.

but as a known game designer(i hate bringing this up) i can say will an educated opinion,that i shall crush these theorys will honesty and know how:

theory:
An anti haker device that allows the system to pick up on hacked data as a failsafe
truth:
wrong.the reason it's called hacked data is becuase it is outside system rights,and if they COULD identify it,they would ban the data type altogether,and also not all hackers work with the same style of hacking.

Theory:
The doppleganger will read his data,as it is a mirror of the player with dopple pre-stats.
Truth:
wrong,and right:
the dopple will not be able to read the hacked data,for reasons i explained above.the dopple has been said on here to have had it's own database that it uses,which is right,but it dosn't work the way wiki explains it,as dopples abilitys and skill levels follow haseo's.

Theory:
The doppleganger will read the duel guns data and copy it,because it is just data in the game,and can be read if it's there.
truth:
Wrong,and I'm tired of saying it.Not all data is the same,and it would be WAY out of the regular specs due to being a HACKER weapon.

As a closing,lets all think of the phrase:

Hacked Data.
think HACKED...Hack...chopped up data,unrecognisable bits of information spliced together by hackers that looks hagered and uninterprible to the system.

I still say it will stay as 3rd form adept rouge with the base 3 weapons.

The Doppleganger might copy the Xth form (and it's weapons) just for gameplay reasons. Simple as that.

No matter what you say, you can't go against gameplay Dx lol

I still stick with my theory:
Doppel will copy Haseo's looks and will have stats and level as it should be normally. Only thing that wouldnt happen is that he doesnt uses Dual Guns

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:02 pm

i did say that that might happen,but for storyline perposes that seems unlikly.

I always thought,or hoped,that mabye the doppleganger would get hit by AIDA,then all haseo' s skills and hacker upgardes could be used by cubia as either a host or personel bodyguard.

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:21 pm

I still think that CC corp. has a surprise for this type of char.(hacked), there must be something in that case anyway.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:32 pm

you cannot prepare for hacked data,as it is H-A-C-K-E-D.
Also,they wouldn't give something as meaningless as doppleganger a high level security program.

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:41 pm

I still think that CC corp. has a surprise for this type of char.(hacked), there must be something in that case anyway.

you cannot prepare for hacked data,as it is H-A-C-K-E-D.

But how about you nullify the hacked data by making it legal??

In other words, making Dual Gunner as a legit class...
CC Corp might do that in the end.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:46 pm

could be,but that won't help the immediate present.
..I just thought of something,what if duel gunner is a class that the world R:2 was going to have,but was left out,but still has back-up data in the system?
That would help doppleganger get the class,and would explain the multipule duel gun weapons

TheSorrow · Post by **TheSorrow** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:50 pm

Or a class that was going to be released soon but was delayed because of AIDA problems, too
We know about Xth form being hacked, but not about the class at all. Maybe the hackers were able to get that data from CC Corp's files and attached them to Haseo's character, to improve him or something. Because making a class out of nowhere has to be something hard to do, even for Helba

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:52 pm

hazzaaa!!!
I thought of something half smart for once....well,i always do!!!!!
go me,go me,go me...

but that may very well be the reason.
I don't even know why i thought of that.
i guess that's just how i would explain it to players....

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:18 pm

Even if Xth Form is hacked and Doppelganger wasn't made to counteract it, let me remind you of the autonomy of Za Warudo

silabus · Post by **silabus** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:17 am

CC can create hacked monsters or charactersd like Lios in //Outbreak , but the sistem maybe can't recognaize Haseo's character data

Jimbob · Post by **Jimbob** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:19 pm

Well I watched a vol.3 youtube Vid and Doppelganger indeed copies X-form and Dual-Guns, so there you have it.

tenkennosoujiro · Post by **tenkennosoujiro** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:27 pm

really? i haven't found them (guess i'll have to look harder)

Jimbob · Post by **Jimbob** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:29 pm

The video involves getting lots of hit's with guns if thats a hint. But I can't actually post the link.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:44 am

well then,they went with gameplay perposes.
to bad,i was enjoying this,now it has no perpose...what is the dopple weapon i wonder....

Jimbob · Post by **Jimbob** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:09 am

He's doesn't have a doppel weapon for the guns actually. He uses the same ones you do color and all.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:49 am

HA! I knew it.

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:38 pm

ahhh... I thought CC2 would have planned better this time, but then does it means that it always hit you when you are using the guns, or not and he miss some shoots?

Jimbob · Post by **Jimbob** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:33 pm

Um actually I'm not sure as the video I watched has them constantly pound away at him to the point where he never got a shot off.