Cubia

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:42 pm

Why can it not be that both the Liminality info and the whole "Anti-Bracelet" be true?

Think about it.. the Lim stuff says that Cubia was a program to get rid of illegal items. The bracelet was an illegal item threatening the system. When the bracelet was destroyed, so was Cubia in a sence, due to it no longer had a purpose (the bracelet/threat was gone, so no need for the security system to continue to monitor).

And although I do agree that wiki's are 99% accurate... I do agree that I would believe something said by the .Hack// DVD's before what bunch of fans said.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:44 pm

Heres some legit info since Wiki has false material

.hack//Wiki (click the link)

Be sure to put in your favorites!

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:49 pm

cyberconnect wrote:Why can it not be that both the Liminality info and the whole "Anti-Bracelet" be true?

Think about it.. the Lim stuff says that Cubia was a program to get rid of illegal items. The bracelet was an illegal item threatening the system. When the bracelet was destroyed, so was Cubia in a sence, due to it no longer had a purpose (the bracelet/threat was gone, so no need for the security system to continue to monitor).

And although I do agree that wiki's are 99% accurate... I do agree that I would believe something said by the .Hack// DVD's before what bunch of fans said.

Except Aura herself said herself that Cubia was the shadow of the bracelet, two sides of the same coin. It makes no sense anyway, Aura gave her own power to Data Drain in the bracelet to be used by a player. It was meant to save her and stop Morgana, why the heck would she install an anti-hacker program? That would only put her further at risk.

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:29 pm

Ignus, like I said, the Wiki has good info, but I would believe info from the DVDs before I would that.

Also Fragments, Aura wouldn't have been the one to create Cubia, due to she was not the original 'god' of The World, that would be Morganna. Also, even after Morganna was shut down due to Aura being born, Cubia might still be a useful program, to keep track of hackers and such. You have to think about it in referance.

Before Aura, Morganna was the core system of the game. Thus Aura was a threat to the core system, even if the threat would bring prosperity to the game.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:31 pm

cyberconnect wrote:Ignus, like I said, the Wiki has good info, but I would believe info from the DVDs before I would that.

Also Fragments, Aura wouldn't have been the one to create Cubia, due to she was not the original 'god' of The World, that would be Morganna. Also, even after Morganna was shut down due to Aura being born, Cubia might still be a useful program, to keep track of hackers and such. You have to think about it in referance.

Before Aura, Morganna was the core system of the game. Thus Aura was a threat to the core system, even if the threat would bring prosperity to the game.

.hack//ANALYSIS proved it false.

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:38 pm

cyberconnect wrote:Ignus, like I said, the Wiki has good info, but I would believe info from the DVDs before I would that.

Also Fragments, Aura wouldn't have been the one to create Cubia, due to she was not the original 'god' of The World, that would be Morganna. Also, even after Morganna was shut down due to Aura being born, Cubia might still be a useful program, to keep track of hackers and such. You have to think about it in referance.

Before Aura, Morganna was the core system of the game. Thus Aura was a threat to the core system, even if the threat would bring prosperity to the game.

Aura already stated that Cubia is the SHADOW OF THE BRACLET. Braclet=Cubia, the inevitably consequence of great power. Terminal Disk confirms Cubia as an Anti-Existence and not a anti-hacker program. ANALYSIS confirms that the English Liminality Easter Eggs are false. All this cannon is accepted officaly by Bandai and a large portion of .hack fans.

How many times do I have to repeat myself?

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:13 pm

I'm a bit late into this discussion thing, but here's a quote Aura says, that was grabbed from dothack.wikia. Which I'm pretty sure this quote was not made up/

"When the Bracelet appeared in the world, Cubia was born as well. The Bracelet and Cubia are opposite sides of the same coin. Therefore... if you defeat Cubia, the Bracelet will be destroyed."

^ It might be in one of those e-mails that couldn't be understood actually, to warn Kite not to fight Cubia, if he wanted to stand a chance against the Final phase, Corbenik.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:19 pm

Kadaaju wrote:I'm a bit late into this discussion thing, but here's a quote Aura says, that was grabbed from dothack.wikia. Which I'm pretty sure this quote was not made up/

"When the Bracelet appeared in the world, Cubia was born as well. The Bracelet and Cubia are opposite sides of the same coin. Therefore... if you defeat Cubia, the Bracelet will be destroyed."

^ It might be in one of those e-mails that couldn't be understood actually, to warn Kite not to fight Cubia, if he wanted to stand a chance against the Final phase, Corbenik.

There you go. Thanks for hopping in, Kadaaju.^^

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:28 pm

Bulletcatcher wrote:
Kadaaju wrote:I'm a bit late into this discussion thing, but here's a quote Aura says, that was grabbed from dothack.wikia. Which I'm pretty sure this quote was not made up/

"When the Bracelet appeared in the world, Cubia was born as well. The Bracelet and Cubia are opposite sides of the same coin. Therefore... if you defeat Cubia, the Bracelet will be destroyed."

^ It might be in one of those e-mails that couldn't be understood actually, to warn Kite not to fight Cubia, if he wanted to stand a chance against the Final phase, Corbenik.
There you go. Thanks for hopping in, Kadaaju.^^

Pwned.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:34 pm

Good work, Zer0!!!! You rock. ^^

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:41 pm

Way to write it on the way Zer0

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:42 pm

Hooray! Now lets go back to Cubia <Alpha> now.

AT's theory is the Cubia may be the AIDA infecting Ovan all along. I'd like to add on that theory that Cubia may be the father of all AIDA's and he may be spawning them. He proabaly came back during Project G.U. as the Anti-existence that Jun had feared will happen.

What do you think?

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:03 pm

One last piece of Pwnage Pie:

The Liminality Easter Eggs only exist in the NA version. Not even the Japanese versions have it, so it's not sanctioned by CC2.

PWNED.

Anyway, back on topic.

Hooray! Now lets go back to Cubia <Alpha> now.

AT's theory is the Cubia may be the AIDA infecting Ovan all along. I'd like to add on that theory that Cubia may be the father of all AIDA's and he may be spawning them. He proabaly came back during Project G.U. as the Anti-existence that Jun had feared will happen.

What do you think?

That's what I thought too. Like the AIDA are to Cubia Alpha like the Gommorahs (the floating core things) were to the original Cubia. He probably attached and/or grew from Ovan and was growing all this time, becoming more powerful with every Infection/PK/Sign Creation or something until he was strong enough to cast Ovan aside.

Or alternatively, he could've stolen Ovan's Epitaph and used it's Rebirth powers to make a seperate body for itself, and was only able to do so until Haseo defeated Corbenic, creating a Pandora's Box scenario.

(Ovan probably encouraged Haseo to do it not because of malicious intentions, but because seperating Cubia from his arm is the only way to kill him, since Epitaph PC's seem the be invincible. Similar to how Kite had to kill the Phases and slowly destroy the game to save the coma victims.)

Skeithwannabe · Post by **Skeithwannabe** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:04 pm

This is slightly a joke and true if Cubia had a personality he seems to like being considered a final-boss type thing and he like being a cause of misfortune

cyberconnect · Post by **cyberconnect** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:20 pm

Ah, alright. By any chance, where is it possible to pick up //Analysis (sorry for wavering from the topic, but ya).

cloud 1914 · Post by **cloud 1914** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:33 pm

Let's just say that the negative energy from the epitaph users created AIDA. Then how much negative energy would have been created when Haseo DDed a very powerful epitaph plus a very powerful AIDA? Would have made something really strong.... like maybe Cubia?

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:42 pm

I think it might have been created when Ovan's AIDA was extracted, with Corbenik, both really powerful things at once, could create an entity as powerful as Cubia.

awkward_confusion · Post by **awkward_confusion** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:47 pm

I dont think that Cubia in //G.U. is the same as the original Cubia. It seems that whenever the world needs to balance something out it creates a Cubia and the AIDA seem to be a side effect of Cubia <Alpha>. I think that Cubia was using Ovan to incubate while giving birth to AIDAs which would explain why even in roots where the only active avatars were Tarvos Corbenik and possibly the dummy avatar and Fidchell it was still powerful; the data size of an entire field. Another possiblity is that now that Cubia is probably the result of the avatars Cubia <Alpha> is probably more evolved than the original Cubia; its possible that if Kite had kept data draining a massive amount of monsters with his first bracelet the first Cubia would of been able to create AIDAs too. Maybe in a future .hack series there will be multiple Cubias existing simultaneously.

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:52 pm

I wonder if this really makes Cubia the main evil in both series. In infection we really knew nothing about Cubia, besides the fact he was the opposite of Kite, and it only appeared when Aura was more complete. Maybe if it destroyed Kite it might have been able to inherit the bracelet, and be both sides of the coin and earn it's true power.

It's possible this time Cubia's purpose will be revealed to us more in this game and we can tell if he is truly evil or not, but so far it seems as though he is.

Without Knowledge · Post by **Without Knowledge** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:47 pm

Okay, so what do you guys think Cubia <Alpha> is the anti-existence of? The Epitaphs? Azure Kite's bracelet? Aida? Haseo himself? Oh, wait, could be Eina, for that matter...Have we seen any clues to this? The only thing I can think of is how Jun from the Terminal disk was concerned that manipulating the Epitaph data would create a new Cubia. And the Epitaph Experiments did obviously a can of worms.