Philosophy debate of Religion, and Science

[AuraTwilight]

what the hell are you talking about? I never said i worked in network security, nor did I ever brag about being a hacker and i NEVER said I wanted you to be your Sensei,I'd rather have my balls cut off than want you be my sensei of ANYTHING, sure you dun mean Zelkovathewise?

Considering you both use the same AIM handle, I'm pretty sure you two are probably the same person. Not that it matters, you two act the exact same on everything.

[Keyaki]

what the hell are you talking about? I never said i worked in network security, nor did I ever brag about being a hacker and i NEVER said I wanted you to be your Sensei,I'd rather have my balls cut off than want you be my sensei of ANYTHING, sure you dun mean Zelkovathewise?

Considering you both use the same AIM handle, I'm pretty sure you two are probably the same person. Not that it matters, you two act the exact same on everything.

1. I never use AIM and I never have I use MSN, way to immediately declare something you nothing about.

2. I dun see how I act like Zelkova in anyway, give me some kind of proof that we're the same >>

[AuraTwilight]

1. I never use AIM and I never have I use MSN, way to immediately declare something you nothing about.

Then Zelkova lied to me. S/he claimed that you're a duplicate account of theirs, and I've yet to see any evidence to the contrary.

2. I dun see how I act like Zelkova in anyway, give me some kind of proof that we're the same >>

You have the exact same bratty, ass-kissing, immature personality.

[Keyaki]

You have the exact same bratty, ass-kissing, immature personality.

Give me one example that I ever kissed you ass or acted bipolar and immature

[LegendaryDarkKnight]

So you're telling me you don't want to pay attention to a country that has WMD's and terrorist?

The hilarity of that statement being that Iraq never had WMD's. But go ahead and buy into the bullsh*t.

True, but Korea also has both.

[AuraTwilight]

Give me one example that I ever kissed you ass or acted bipolar and immature

I don't feel it's necessary. Almost all your posts are whiny immature ****, and everyone's kissed my ass at one point or another.

True, but Korea also has both.

So why aren't we fighting the War on Terror in Korea? Oh, right, there's no oil there. Ca-ching, ca-ching.

[iuliathe3rd]

You guys can stop your petty arguing now and get back to the actual topic at hand.

[zaseo]

What do you guys think of abortion? Many say its just wrong you are taking a unborn life. Many say its her body she can do what the hell shes wants to it. I see it like this. If a man, or woman decides to have sex, but does not want a child use a condom. Won't always work, but if she does get pregnant stop the whole process. If the baby is in the 2nd, or 3rd trimesters comes don't kill if off now. Another option would to just give up the baby for adoption. I feel that if you going to have sex there always the risk of having kids so you should be prepared to take care of one. I will accept abortion if having the child will endangers the woman's health somehow. No matter what religion there is always some debate about this. Abortion shows us another reason why science, and technology will lead to a big philosophy debate across the world.

[AuraTwilight]

@Abortion: Aborting a baby isn't some willy-nilly decision women just make because "lol i want sum sugah in mah bowl get this bellyfruit out of mah gut." It's a hard, horribly emotionally scarring process, and most women only abort if they feel they have no other options.

Personally? I feel that no child should be born into this world unwanted. Especially since we have an overpopulation problem anyway; I'd rather not be born than be abandoned and given no chance at a normal, happy life.

[zaseo]

@Abortion: Aborting a baby isn't some willy-nilly decision women just make because "lol i want sum sugah in mah bowl get this bellyfruit out of mah gut." It's a hard, horribly emotionally scarring process, and most women only abort if they feel they have no other options.

Personally? I feel that no child should be born into this world unwanted. Especially since we have an overpopulation problem anyway; I'd rather not be born than be abandoned and given no chance at a normal, happy life.

True indeed. You can't tell when you are inside your mom. If I had a chance to live a life with the rules of of equalities of opportunity I would live that life. I think all humans are equal as we all good in somethings while not so good at others. We may be all create equal, but we all don't have equalities of opportunity. If everyone had opportunity to be free they could explore as show their true potential.

[The-Missing-Spade]

@Abortion: Aborting a baby isn't some willy-nilly decision women just make because "lol i want sum sugah in mah bowl get this bellyfruit out of mah gut." It's a hard, horribly emotionally scarring process, and most women only abort if they feel they have no other options.

Personally? I feel that no child should be born into this world unwanted. Especially since we have an overpopulation problem anyway; I'd rather not be born than be abandoned and given no chance at a normal, happy life.

Hey AuraTwilight.

Um, about your personal opinion on abortion, you have a good point.
But now-a-days the probability that a person could have a normal, happy life, regardless, is not a very good one. Bcuz of like, personal circumstances, and the pressures of society, people tend to focus on the negative than on the positive aspects of life.

Still, I'm sure even the most unfortunate man or woman can build and sustain a happy life if they truely want it.

My opinion is, that whatever the girl's decision is, that she accepts the consquences.

[zaseo]

I still find it wrong, but women still have their options in what to do. Well I can accept it in some cases, but Catholics don't take any form of birth control well. Birth control is needed. Today families would not have ten kids. The infant mortality rate is low in places such as Europe, or USA. Now as a virgin I not had sex yet, but when I do start with my wife/girlfriend when we want to have sex we will have sex. Think of what marriage would be like with sex being a rare thing because you don't want to have more kids. When people have sex with no birth control more than likely under normal circumstances the women would get pregnant right? It would suck to be a priest in the Catholic church. The pope, or anyone that runs the church can't be married. Its not just a few things I have problems with in the Catholic church is in all churches of any Christianity branch. There so much corruption its insane. I'm sure you can point out many things in any branch.

[|<!73]

I believe abortion should be taken as a final last option. Truth be thought its still murder. Under normal circumstances If the situation is not life threatening I think it would be a good idea to have the child. There is a bond that can be formed between people once given a chance. Supposing the mother is in a position to be unable to take care of the child or not want one then I would reccomend adoption. This gives both the child and the parent a chance to satisfy their lives. How satisfied they become is an individual choice. The same applies to the parent who chooses to visit said child. No one should be forced to have a baby but neither should the decision be taken too lightly and the idea falls from the quality of life. In a situations of rape I would like the same to apply, however because it wasn't conceptual the bearer is likely to have more doubts on keeping the child...which is sad. Science accepts the use of a fetus so there isn't much argue about it. The only solution is a non existence one, do one's best to prevent harm either way or invent an alternative method.

Apologies in advance though. I came into this topic a little late and if the abortion discussion is spam please note that its not my intention. Just thought it was an interesting subject. In either case its not like anyone can do something about this view in the first place eh?

EDIT: Ha I just noticed how old this topic is!?

[AuraTwilight]

Supposing the mother is in a position to be unable to take care of the child or not want one then I would reccomend adoption. This gives both the child and the parent a chance to satisfy their lives.

Yea, and if she has the baby, doesn't raise it, and then finds her vagina and uterus are too wrecked to have another baby when she changes her mind, then TOUGH FOR HER, right?

PROTIP: Men shouldn't have a say in the abortion debate, imo.

[|<!73]

Then a mother has the option of reconnecting with their own child, next case scenerio adopt a child of their own or egg donation. If its an issue of a wrecked uterus or vargina then it was probably life threating to begin with so that choice was left with the carrier. A little further depending from the measures your willing to take. As for whose capable of speaking on it no restrictions since it took two for tango and one to fade out. However a decision is self choice. I don't mind worry if it was an intial option. People can still do as they like which is why alternatives are created. As stated it goes as far any person becomes willing.

[zaseo]

Its been a while since something new has been in debate. Do you think antimatter exist? Could E=MC square be proven wrong?

[AuraTwilight]

Uh, we HAVE Antimatter. A few grams of it across the world. It's a fact.

E=MC Squared is a universal constant. It can't be violated any more than you can make a triangle whose angles don't add up to 180 degrees, or a square with corners.

[zaseo]

Not the best questions that I have ask. Ok since Antimatter exist there is probably some places in the universe were a lot of it exist. There is so much in science that can't be explained. I would love to find out everything, but its only so much we humans can learn. Consider E=MC can't be broken, and seeing as how the universe has been around for billions of years it times is forever, and so is the universe. The same amount of energy from billions of years ago is the same amount of energy now. The biggest questions is how we got here, and why? You can take the Religions views, or the science views. Us humans have every short lifespans. We got around 36500 days at most on average to live. I prefer Religion views, but looking at things from a science point of view how do we get here? How does life so from many single cell organisms, and evolve to what it is today?

[wave killer]

My view on both science and religion are both pretty much the same: it's just man's fear of the unknown.

[Helbaworshipper]

Wow, this getting close to the magma...

Religion is man made and is used to establish two specific needs: why are we here and how did we get here. That's how it's always been. Religion can explain that God created humanity starting with Adam and Eve or whatever the religion has. Honestly, there's too many to have just one universal belief.

Science is an explanation for why things happen in the world. This would include why we exist and how we even inhabited this world. Science is based off observation and what someone deduces from that experiment or rock or something. In reality, religion does not teach us to question how the world is. Science does.