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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:37 am
by TIB4M4N
Azure crow wrote:Ratsu wrote:.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:AuraTwilight wrote:
AIDA and Avatars don't call out to each other, where's this bull from?
"AIDA call out to the Avatars, and the Avatars call out to AIDA." - Ovan in volume 2.
ummm They are right he did say that.
Yes,he did.
Ovan was referring to the fact that AIDA wants the epitaphs,and the fact that the epitaphs draw in the AIDA without realizing it.
The epitaphs would have made the AIDA immensly powerful,should they have gotten all eight.
In fact.
if they had gotten all eight,and they had been put together,the AIDA would have achieved Key of the Twilight status.Only a perfect version of it,instead of the less than perfect xth form,which only has the "fingerprints" in it.
Of course,that would have triggered Cubia......and the AIDA may have attempted to infect it as well,failign of course,and either nuclear winter would have eneded everything or AIDA would become dominant as the most powerful and intelligent force on earth and in The World.
*shivers* well good thing this is just a game or I would be scared as hell right now. Thanks for the info

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:58 pm
by AuraTwilight
"AIDA call out to the Avatars, and the Avatars call out to AIDA." - Ovan in volume 2.
Oh yea, that metaphor. I was thinking of something totally different.
"Marco!" "fdkfdkjf" "....Marco." "fgfkghd" "Dammit, AIDA, you gotta say Polo." "fgkfjgdfkgj screwyouskeith"
ok god,........ that was a fake vid made by yata. hes done this crap before, watch roots. i think its there.
No it wasn't.
In fact.if they had gotten all eight,and they had been put together,the AIDA would have achieved Key of the Twilight status.Only a perfect version of it,instead of the less than perfect xth form,which only has the "fingerprints" in it.
The Key of the Twilight is still the Key of the Twilight. Where are you getting this perfect/non-perfect thing?
Of course,that would have triggered Cubia......and the AIDA may have attempted to infect it as well,failign of course,and either nuclear winter would have eneded everything or AIDA would become dominant as the most powerful and intelligent force on earth and in The World.
Cubia only awakens if a human gets it.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:44 pm
by Azure crow
AuraTwilight wrote:
In fact.if they had gotten all eight,and they had been put together,the AIDA would have achieved Key of the Twilight status.Only a perfect version of it,instead of the less than perfect xth form,which only has the "fingerprints" in it.
The Key of the Twilight is still the Key of the Twilight. Where are you getting this perfect/non-perfect thing?
Of course,that would have triggered Cubia......and the AIDA may have attempted to infect it as well,failign of course,and either nuclear winter would have eneded everything or AIDA would become dominant as the most powerful and intelligent force on earth and in The World.
Cubia only awakens if a human gets it.
Cubia may respond if a hostile A.I. that can think independatly and isn't part of the blackbox obtains it,as that would register on the same tone as a human.
And the imperfect/perfect thing I'm referring to is that although
xth form is the key of the twilight,it can't act beyond being a job extention,or truly affect anything around it dut to only holding one true epitpah,while if AIDA got all eight,and they wern't the fingerprints,they could use them freely and alter the system in a much higher mannor than the braclet or xth form,as we see when they have a hold on just two of the epitaphs(although one isn't fully cooperating).
perfect wasn't the proper word to use though.
Maliable and usefull would have been a better set of words to use.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:33 pm
by Azure Knight
AK just has REALLY bad timing and aim.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:36 pm
by AuraTwilight
Cubia may respond if a hostile A.I. that can think independatly and isn't part of the blackbox obtains it,as that would register on the same tone as a human.
Good point.
And the imperfect/perfect thing I'm referring to is that although xth form is the key of the twilight,it can't act beyond being a job extention,or truly affect anything around it dut to only holding one true epitpah,while if AIDA got all eight,and they wern't the fingerprints,they could use them freely and alter the system in a much higher mannor than the braclet or xth form,as we see when they have a hold on just two of the epitaphs(although one isn't fully cooperating).
Who said Xth Form and the Bracelet couldn't affect the system on such a level, though? We never see their true power, and, according to Fidchell's Prophecy, Haseo's Xth Form puts him on a godlike level, hence the huge ***** Cubia.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:21 pm
by Azure crow
AuraTwilight wrote:Cubia may respond if a hostile A.I. that can think independatly and isn't part of the blackbox obtains it,as that would register on the same tone as a human.
Good point.
And the imperfect/perfect thing I'm referring to is that although xth form is the key of the twilight,it can't act beyond being a job extention,or truly affect anything around it dut to only holding one true epitpah,while if AIDA got all eight,and they wern't the fingerprints,they could use them freely and alter the system in a much higher mannor than the braclet or xth form,as we see when they have a hold on just two of the epitaphs(although one isn't fully cooperating).
Who said Xth Form and the Bracelet couldn't affect the system on such a level, though? We never see their true power, and, according to Fidchell's Prophecy, Haseo's Xth Form puts him on a godlike level, hence the huge ***** Cubia.
I always assumed that the reason Cubia was so big was because Cubia was a reflection of something that was directly connected to the epitpah,and had a part of it fused into it,while the previous Cubia was a reflection of something that hadn't fully absorbed the epitaphs,and was the Key of Twilight by a technicallity.
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:24 pm
by Ravaan
Cubia's an anti-existance. Why would it be any bigger/more powerful than that which it is the opposite of? Doesn't that show you how powerful Haseo is?
Cubia did become more powerful in IMOQ, but that's because Kite was.
EDIT: Hang on, that was a crap post... a little better now...
Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:34 pm
by Seimei no Kyoufu
Cubia's mass can be directly understood using Newton's law of Universal Gravitation:
F = G(m1 * m2)/d^2
where G is the universal gravitational constant, m1 is the mass of Cubia, m2 is the mass of your involuntary bowel movement, and d is the distance you must run to find a bathroom. Thus, F is the force of impact Cubia's size had on Haseo's or Kite's psyche and/or bowels at the time.
Using entirely accurate Physical scientific evidence, that is completely not made up, I have found the impact on Kite, age 14, to be 1.0x10^-1 N, while Haseo's impact, age 17, was 9.61x10^12. Thus proving once and for all that Kite had it about 90000000000000 times easier than Haseo. Or that Haseo was just that many times more broken. Either way.
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:45 am
by Azure crow
Ravaan wrote:Cubia's an anti-existance. Why would it be any bigger/more powerful than that which it is the opposite of? Doesn't that show you how powerful Haseo is?
Cubia did become more powerful in IMOQ, but that's because Kite was.
EDIT: Hang on, that was a crap post... a little better now...
He bacame more powerful because Kite drained the phases,and added a large portion of there data to the breaclet.
The anti-existance known as Cubia dosn't anti-exist the human,but the Key of the Twilight the human or hostile force hold.
The braclet and
xth form are the keys in this case.
And Haseo's was seemingly stronger,due to having all the phases data active inside,as well as acting together,instead of them being half in the sea of data and half in the key(braclet).
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:06 am
by Skeith805
Seimei no Kyoufu wrote:Cubia's mass can be directly understood using Newton's law of Universal Gravitation:
F = G(m1 * m2)/d^2
where G is the universal gravitational constant, m1 is the mass of Cubia, m2 is the mass of your involuntary bowel movement, and d is the distance you must run to find a bathroom. Thus, F is the force of impact Cubia's size had on Haseo's or Kite's psyche and/or bowels at the time.
Using entirely accurate Physical scientific evidence, that is completely not made up, I have found the impact on Kite, age 14, to be 1.0x10^-1 N, while Haseo's impact, age 17, was 9.61x10^12. Thus proving once and for all that Kite had it about 90000000000000 times easier than Haseo. Or that Haseo was just that many times more broken. Either way.
Except for my first bout in Mutation 'cause I never used Mistral previously.
He bacame more powerful because Kite drained the phases,and added a large portion of there data to the breaclet.
The anti-existance known as Cubia dosn't anti-exist the human,but the Key of the Twilight the human or hostile force hold.
The braclet and xth form are the keys in this case.
And Haseo's was seemingly stronger,due to having all the phases data active inside,as well as acting together,instead of them being half in the sea of data and half in the key(braclet).
Yeah. Kite never fought a Cubia with the power of all 8 epitaphs. Only 2, 4, 6, and 7.
Lucky....
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:05 am
by The*true*Terror Of Death
damnit kite AIM BETTER!!!!!
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:55 am
by Azure crow
The*true*Terror Of Death wrote:damnit kite AIM BETTER!!!!!
Aim?
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:57 pm
by AuraTwilight
Haseo: Hey Kite, what's your AIM address?
Azure Kite: Better
Haseo: ....there is so many things I can say right now.
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:22 pm
by Zephen
Quick question, if you send AK a greeting card, will he reply with "..." or an actual answer?
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:30 pm
by .hack//BICTIOUS
They reply sorta like Aura, with broken Japanese and funky symbols.
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:32 pm
by Seimei no Kyoufu
They do say things, though, and it sounds like a little kid or something. That, or a cat learned how to type. And the cat has excellent grammar, as far as cats are concerned. Its pretty dern funny.
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:31 pm
by lukan
excellent......grammer??
I've got nothing to say but: LAWL
^_^
Toszi(ezxcellent how?)
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:49 pm
by Shinsou Wotan
AuraTwilight wrote:Actually...in ROOTS she was one of the people that managed to escape from Kite himself >_>;
He does give a damn XD
She only says Tri-Edge, and she doesn't remember what happened, so it's an assumption to claim it was Kite. Especially since she saw the entire fight between Ovan and Kite, and then got attacked by "Tri-Edge" after the fight in that same area.
AKA, she was attacked by Ovan. Fail.
1. When Midori talks about Tri-Edge, she means Kite. Given the 100% consistent usage throughout the books, there is no question about that. If she says she was attacked by Tri-Edge, she means she was attacked by the orange-clothed zombie with triple-bladed weapons.
2. Her witnessing the Ovan-Kite fight and her being attacked by Tri-Edge were separate incidents. "I have met Tri-Edge twice."
3. Not remembering anything about the person who fought Tri-Edge (or claiming not to) and not remembering what happened are not the same thing.
AKA, she was attacked by Kite. Fail.
(As a side note, Roots and CELL are no more consistent with each other than any other two parts of the G.U. series.)
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:13 pm
by AuraTwilight
2. Her witnessing the Ovan-Kite fight and her being attacked by Tri-Edge were separate incidents. "I have met Tri-Edge twice."
Doh, I forgot all about that line.
Well then, why did Kite attack her?
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:20 pm
by Skeith805
AuraTwilight wrote:2. Her witnessing the Ovan-Kite fight and her being attacked by Tri-Edge were separate incidents. "I have met Tri-Edge twice."
Doh, I forgot all about that line.
Well then, why did Kite attack her?
Not the only line though... There is also the reference brought up by Shinsou Wotan when Haseo was fighting Midori.
3. Not remembering anything about the person who fought Tri-Edge (or claiming not to) and not remembering what happened are not the same thing
That's a good question though. Maybe she was simply unlucky. She may have ended up in a situation like Phyllo. I'm going back to //Roots because Touta's figuring is confusing...