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I don't think the Sign already being there proves anything. I know the Sign is Tri-Edge's namesake, and it appears overlayed in the first cutscene he does, but if you think about it we have no actual proof in the games that he is the one making them. We have in fact less proof that he makes them than we do that he data drains players. One of the reasons I say this is that the Azures clearly want to get past Ovan to use a Sign in the trailer, but if they could actually make them by data draining someone (or even each other, since they regenerate), I'm sure they'd go out of their way to do that rather than facing Ovan... I think the Azures and Epitaph Users are all able to use them to move throughout the system, but a completely different force (the AIDA? system instability?) might be making them. That's just my guess, it might be him, but we don't know that yet...

Yes, we haven't seen Tri-Edge making Sign's and he seems to be after Ovan (or whatever he has with him).

I myself don't think Ovan is the one Data Draining people.
If he would, shouldn't he be in his Corbenic form? As long as I know, only the Phases can Data Drain but not the "chosen ones" themselves.

I have been thinking it more like, well, Tri-Edge doesn't seem to function as well as he should. There might be an error in his judgments, if he has any.
So it seems to more like to me that:
Ovan goes to somewhere, Tri-Edge follows as well as he can.
Tri-Edge sometimes arrives little too late to catch up on him and wonders the are until he meets some happy-go-lucky players (not always so happy-go-lucky of course as we have seen) and he can't regognise them as different players than what Ovan is.
Tri-Edge Data Drain's them by accident (or he doesn't, he could also be pretty upset and do it in anger) and realises afterwards it wasn't Ovan and leaves, maybe dissapointed if he even feels anything.

Who knows if Tri-Edge can even actually see. His eyes seem to bee very important.
I mean, they are actually glowing throughout the Vol.2 trailers. What is that all about.
The Knights are totally messed up.

Kuukai wrote:I don't think the Sign already being there proves anything. I know the Sign is Tri-Edge's namesake, and it appears overlayed in the first cutscene he does, but if you think about it we have no actual proof in the games that he is the one making them. We have in fact less proof that he makes them than we do that he data drains players. One of the reasons I say this is that the Azures clearly want to get past Ovan to use a Sign in the trailer, but if they could actually make them by data draining someone (or even each other, since they regenerate), I'm sure they'd go out of their way to do that rather than facing Ovan... I think the Azures and Epitaph Users are all able to use them to move throughout the system, but a completely different force (the AIDA? system instability?) might be making them. That's just my guess, it might be him, but we don't know that yet...

That is a fair point you raise...it seems to be that everyone assumes the mark is to do with Tri-Edge.

Having said that, I think Ovan creates them as a means of quickly moving between areas in the system, probably as a means of avoiding Tri-Edge. The Signs do appear to be used to move between areas, so why would Tri-Edge need them when he can simply appear in Azure Flames? I've also yet to see any Epitaph-User actually use them as a means of transport intentionally.

What if the Azure Knights aren't trying to get past Ovan in order to use the Sign, but are trying to stop him from using the Sign? Does the thing sealed inside his arm give him the power to do so? He did, after all, mysteriously vanish after his arm was unlocked by Yata.

Ovan escaped on his own. Yata had nothing to do with Ovan's arm being unlocked. Ovan always likes to keep one step ahead. There is always something he knows that we have yet to find out.

First, I want to make it clear that I'm pretty sure Tri-Edge (and the rest of the Azures) can't move to anywhere not connected by a Sign. He turns into a ball of flame when he uses them, but this is the same thing that happens when normal users use Signs or Platforms.

Also, Atoli has the ability to use them to go to places she senses. She doesn't sense something in Indieglut Lugh and end up in Grima Raef... She doesn't fully understand her power, but I bet she will before the series is over...

Also, going back to the first point, I'm pretty sure that they're trying to use the Sign in that scene. Ovan says something along the lines of "I can't let you go just yet", it seems like he's stalling for something...

I've been kicking around the idea that Tri-Edge might be Data Draining people who get too close to Signs, hence why he almost only appears in Lost Grounds.

Piroshi wouldn't even be around if that were true...

Kuukai wrote:Piroshi wouldn't even be around if that were true...

Piroshi is a self-insert so he's immune to the usual laws of the series. <_<

Well, lots of other people hang around Signs enough for that idea to seem unlikely, I was just trying to say so in a humorous manner... Piroshi would be, of course, the first to go if Tri-Edge started attacking people near Signs...

ive been noticing that T-E's movements are almost 'doll-like' from what ive seen in the trailers and //roots. Its like someone is pulling his strings as opposed to what weve seen in vol. 2.

Check how it was in the trailers. He pops up then pulls out his weapons, no questions asks no hellos or anything. And look at the difference between his eye in the trailer as opposed to their movement in vol. 2. I believe someone did state that this T-E may be fake (which could be) or the fact T-E mightve been looking for someone to break him down to the point where that user needed to jump into someone else.

Just a wild theory that poped up when I watched that new vol. 2 trailer.

That is a pretty good theory for Ovan being the one putting people in comas instead of Tri-Edge. I am looking forward to finding out of this theory is true or not when the games come here.

At the moment in episode 13 when T.E. was fixing a error, Shino got a message from someone and she went to the Cathedral. I was wondering who sent her that message?

I notice something else, if you pause at the moment were it show T.E. opening the Cathedral doors and Shino turning her head, you will see a shadow. Now I thought it was T.E.s shadow but the shape of it dinit match. It looked like Ovan. So if it was Ovan, why would he data drain Shino? I mean, I thought they were close friends?

They were more thenh close friend's it's hinted that they were lover's, if it was Ovan whom did it, it wouldn't be the Ovan that Shino knew at least.

Ignus wrote:Well If T-E is the helper (as it is shown) Then all he is doing is correcting the problems. And perhaps T-E didnt surface because there was no major viruses or glitches. So instead he worked in the network (maybe waiting for Aura)

I also think because Aura "rules" 'The World' she left or mightve left someone (such as T-E) to do her wishes until she returns. So when the admins (who are not with Aura) start trying to make a new Aura, T-E steps in and tries to stop their progression.

I also think a recreation of this new Aura has something to do with her going into a coma. If Ovan did DD Shino, maybe it was to make a new Aura.

But heres something that flips me out. Ovan gave the location of where T-E was. Haseo was looking everywhere for T-E, yet he didnt appear. He went on a mad killing spree about finding T-E and becoming stronger. Now why in all places would T-E littearly pop up to Haseo at the church? Maybe because Ovan told him he "would" be there. So perhaps because of the "expectation" theory is true. Haseo expected him to be there. And thus he showed up.

But then if T-E could do that, does that mean Aura could do the same?

I'm n00b to the .hack franchise and I've been slowly going over the previous animes (not a gamer, so that part is empty). As I've been watching .hack//roots, I noticed that Shino said that she would not run like Aura. Here you indicate that 'possibly' TE is a fixer (which we do see him running a repair). Ovan has his own little DD toy of some sort that pwns TE. But TE DD'd Shino. I'm still confused on TE's role and his nature. I do notice the parallel to Kite (?) from a previous episode. For us outsiders, just what is Tri-edge? Friend/foe/admin/Aura servent?

Most of the time I'm like a goose in a snow storm trying to figure this series out.

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Tri-Edge's actual identity and purpose is unconfirmed at the moment, the general idea is that he is a defensive programme that fixes dangerous errors within the system created using Kite's PC data.

Of course, for this to work, we have to assume that Tri-Edge is not the one that Data-Drained Shino, which leaves Ovan as the likely suspect.

We never actually see Tri-Edge place anyone in a coma, whilst we do see Tri-Edge do something to Ovan which evidently 'deleted' him in much the same way as Shino was put into a coma.

^don't you mean haseo?

No, I meant Ovan did something to Tri-Edge... ¬_¬'

Umbra wrote:No, I meant Ovan did something to Tri-Edge... ¬_¬'

ah, that clarifies things. thanks. ^_^

Heres a crazy new theory what is Tri-Edge is really just what we orignally though he was, a hacker. If you think about it it kinda makes sense. Hackers tend to like messing with people, and probobly the best way to mess with Haseo is to send him back to lvl 1. As for the vol. 2 prieview it appeares he is damaged after the 2nd fight with haseo and that might be his own area he created to try and repair his character.

Yea, but hackers are controlled by humans, and Tri-Edge isn't. Furthermore, no hacker can do the things Tri-Edge does.