Tri-Edge Theory

Arrcu · Post by **Arrcu** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:58 pm

My crazy theory is that Tri-Edge is remnats of Kites data and now fixes corupted data in The World. Kite helpd save the worl from the waves so maybe his data was saved somewhere and survived into R:2. Can remeber which episode, but I remeber Tri-Edge in a data stream and he fixed up an error in the data. So maybe he is attacking players because of the Avatars(Skeith, Innus, Magus, and the rest of them), thinking that they are errors in the system.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:37 pm

Quite possibly. And that's the general consensus. Welcome to the boards!

Arrcu · Post by **Arrcu** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:45 pm

Found the episode. Its half way into episode 13

pekerman · Post by **pekerman** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:40 pm

Good point. maybe Vol. 2 tells us something really interesting about T-E

haseo89 · Post by **haseo89** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:21 pm

Arrcu wrote:My crazy theory is that Tri-Edge is remnats of Kites data and now fixes corupted data in The World. Kite helpd save the worl from the waves so maybe his data was saved somewhere and survived into R:2. Can remeber which episode, but I remeber Tri-Edge in a data stream and he fixed up an error in the data. So maybe he is attacking players because of the Avatars(Skeith, Innus, Magus, and the rest of them), thinking that they are errors in the system.

thats probly it now it mite be horder to fight tri edge in the game

Kyle1818 · Post by **Kyle1818** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:13 am

yeah really, knowing he might just be trying to protect the system. But if that's the case, then why did he attack and kill (put her in a coma) Shino? She didn't have any of the Epitaphs.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:02 am

One could argue that he knocked her off because she was associated with Haseo and Ovan, but then again, the only Epitaphs Tri-Edge has ever attacked on his own was Ovan. (Haseo provoked Tri-Edge, so it was self defense that time.)

Seriously? I don't think Tri-Edge is that simple. As Xu Yuan and I posthumously theorize, Tri-Edge may only be doing what he's expected to do and be what he's expected to be. Tri-Edge seemed to have arrived at the same time as the AIDA. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

The AIDA's, in our thought experiment, are the twilight dream of the Admins. CC Corp probably thought "Oh Jesus, it's The World. Something HAS to be wrong with it." And lo wert the AIDA born. And being a dream, the AIDA will of course act as expected. CC Corp sees AI's as threats, so they shall act like threats. The more damage they do, the more people fear them, and the stronger they become until they can do crap like this whole Mirror Server shtick.

Alrightie, but what about AIDA Infectee's? Well, that again rolls into the Threat Perception deal, but how does it work? The AIDA's seem to psychically find out what the player wants to see most (I wonder how? ^_^ Evidence!) and thus supports that illusion, like the Mia cat taking a false, but pleasant, form and being nice to Endrance when it couldn't care less. Thus, the AIDA could control players. What would be more threatening than controlling a human being?

Tri-Edge, presumably, could be the dream of the players, who are so vulnerable to their own digital urban legends. They imagine a challenge that will be "impossible." The ultimate goal for the highest of their ranks. Hence, Tri-Edge acts within the battle system, yet at the same time, not. Probably combined with some residual memories of Kite's legend, and voila. Tri-Edge. These Kite memory remnants prompt Tri-Edge to fight the AIDA and fix errors, but to also attack random players and Data Drain them, solely so that more people will fear him, his legend will escalate, and his power can increase until he can do things like summon an Avatar and reinforcements.

Why does Tri-Edge stalk Ovan? Because that's what Ovan expects. Why does Tri-Edge put Signs down and primarily only go to Lost Grounds? Because people expect Lost Grounds to be special. Why was Phyllo spared? Because he perceived himself as unworthy to be Tri-Edge's target, and Tri-Edge supported that belief.

Avatars kinda touch on the subject too, but I'll spare ya that right now.

Arrcu · Post by **Arrcu** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:34 pm

wow....that was long.........but made so much sense.

Takumi · Post by **Takumi** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:22 pm

I bet Tri-Edge is the new Cubia (Cubia fixed errors in the system). And like what Arrcu said, Tri-Edge was fixing something in the system. And the Epitaph Wielders and AIDAs could be considered a threat to the system to Tri-Edge. But about Balmung and Orca (The Tree Azure Knights), I am not sure,... Cubia was only one form. Bottom Line: We don't know enough about G.U. yet

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Wan · Post by **Wan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:40 pm

Well If T-E is the helper (as it is shown) Then all he is doing is correcting the problems. And perhaps T-E didnt surface because there was no major viruses or glitches. So instead he worked in the network (maybe waiting for Aura)

I also think because Aura "rules" 'The World' she left or mightve left someone (such as T-E) to do her wishes until she returns. So when the admins (who are not with Aura) start trying to make a new Aura, T-E steps in and tries to stop their progression.

I also think a recreation of this new Aura has something to do with her going into a coma. If Ovan did DD Shino, maybe it was to make a new Aura.

But heres something that flips me out. Ovan gave the location of where T-E was. Haseo was looking everywhere for T-E, yet he didnt appear. He went on a mad killing spree about finding T-E and becoming stronger. Now why in all places would T-E littearly pop up to Haseo at the church? Maybe because Ovan told him he "would" be there. So perhaps because of the "expectation" theory is true. Haseo expected him to be there. And thus he showed up.

But then if T-E could do that, does that mean Aura could do the same?

Ichida · Post by **Ichida** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:43 pm

My theory - which I've been saying since the E305 trailer - is that Tri-Edge is the new form of Cubia out to right all irregularities in The World, namely the AIDAs, which explains why Tri-Edge chases Ovan; for the AIDA in his blackboxed arm.

bredan · Post by **bredan** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:54 pm

TakumiBlade wrote:I bet Tri-Edge is the new Cubia (Cubia fixed errors in the system). And like what Arrcu said, Tri-Edge was fixing something in the system. And the Epitaph Wielders and AIDAs could be considered a threat to the system to Tri-Edge. But about Balmung and Orca (The Tree Azure Knights), I am not sure,... Cubia was only one form. Bottom Line: We don't know enough about G.U. yet [/b]

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do i smell another failed theory?
careful might contain spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60u9RgcIMoY

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:21 pm

Since when did Cubia fix anything?

Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:23 pm

Shinsou Wotan wrote:Since when did Cubia fix anything?

Cubia finds things within the World that's weird, like PC's that are not supposed to have these powers he deletes them

Kite was considered that since he talked with aura and had the bracelet, but cubia is also part of the bracelet so he didn't do much. So eh, he's kinda good guy but a bad guy @_@

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:34 pm

I bet Tri-Edge is the new Cubia (Cubia fixed errors in the system). And like what Arrcu said, Tri-Edge was fixing something in the system. And the Epitaph Wielders and AIDAs could be considered a threat to the system to Tri-Edge. But about Balmung and Orca (The Tree Azure Knights), I am not sure,... Cubia was only one form. Bottom Line: We don't know enough about G.U. yet

Cubia actually made more problems. He didn't fix a damn thing.

But heres something that flips me out. Ovan gave the location of where T-E was. Haseo was looking everywhere for T-E, yet he didnt appear. He went on a mad killing spree about finding T-E and becoming stronger. Now why in all places would T-E littearly pop up to Haseo at the church? Maybe because Ovan told him he "would" be there. So perhaps because of the "expectation" theory is true. Haseo expected him to be there. And thus he showed up.

Possibly, but me and Umbra believe that Ovan is controlling and/or framing Tri-Edge.

Well If T-E is the helper (as it is shown) Then all he is doing is correcting the problems. And perhaps T-E didnt surface because there was no major viruses or glitches. So instead he worked in the network (maybe waiting for Aura)

I also think because Aura "rules" 'The World' she left or mightve left someone (such as T-E) to do her wishes until she returns. So when the admins (who are not with Aura) start trying to make a new Aura, T-E steps in and tries to stop their progression.

I also think a recreation of this new Aura has something to do with her going into a coma. If Ovan did DD Shino, maybe it was to make a new Aura.

Makes sense.

But then if T-E could do that, does that mean Aura could do the same?

Do what, exactly?

My theory - which I've been saying since the E305 trailer - is that Tri-Edge is the new form of Cubia out to right all irregularities in The World, namely the AIDAs, which explains why Tri-Edge chases Ovan; for the AIDA in his blackboxed arm.

Too bad Cubia is an irregularity in of itself who made more problems, errors, and infections just by moving around. Fail.

Cubia finds things within the World that's weird, like PC's that are not supposed to have these powers he deletes them

Kite was considered that since he talked with aura and had the bracelet, but cubia is also part of the bracelet so he didn't do much. So eh, he's kinda good guy but a bad guy @_@

That's ****. Stop listening to the Easter Egg. the North American .hack team made it up without verifying it. Cubia was created to be a thorn in Kite's side, not to balance the system or whatever. He does what Kite doesn't. Kite saves the world, so Cubia shows him up by messing it up some more.

do i smell another failed theory?
careful might contain spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60u9RgcIMoY

That really doesn't prove or defeat the guy's theory. kthx.

Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:44 pm

Notice he only DD'd one person..not the rest? Then he disappeared..not went after the rest?

Perhaps that one PC did something baaaad... ;D

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:42 pm

Or Ovan did it. Ahem, Umbra.theory file execute.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:56 am

Theory file executed:

If you check Episode 13, you will see that the Sign was on the pedestal before Shino was attacked and put into a coma, which can be seen here. I guess that suggests that Tri-Edge attacked someone else besides Shino before she entered the Cathedral.

Is it safe to assume this throws out the whole 'Tri-Edge got Shino' idea? If Tri-Edge left that mark earlier then it seems unlikely that he got her, even if it was by accident.

Which leads to the conclusion that Ovan put Shino in a coma, which would explain why Tri-Edge was destroyed in the same way Shino was destroyed in Roots, because he was destroyed through the same power.

This could also mean that there is no proof connecting Tri-Edge to those who fall into comas. Thinking back there is no actual visual evidence of Tri-Edge's Data-Drain putting a player into a coma. The video Yata shows could simply have missed Ovan putting a PC into a coma while it focused on Tri-Edge using Data-Drain.

If Ovan's ability to put people into comas is directly connected to his arm, then Tri-Edge may be trying to correct this by removing it. Haseo may have been similar and this is why Tri-Edge Data-Drained him and why Haseo lost all his power and armour. Had the Data-Drain hit Ovan, would he have lost his power and the seal on his arm?

Of course, if this is true, it leads us back to the question of what Ovan actually has locked away. It does appear to be an AIDA, but then again, we've only seen evidence for this in Roots while all other instances of AIDA look quite different. Then there's the fact that no other AIDA has ever been able to use Data-Drain.

My assumptions would be that it is an especially advanced AIDA, or an AIDA that is using Corbenik's Data-Draining ability.

Ichida · Post by **Ichida** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:06 am

Compelling evidence. Perhaps Ovan's already unlocked his Avatar, which would be how he can DD people.

Wow... so Ovan could be a villain... maybe this is the "great deception" they're going on about... Trippy. @_@

Rellan · Post by **Rellan** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:51 am

I was hoping the 'Great Deception' would be more bizarre than that, it just seems a bit... obvious for a .hack twist.

But seeing as it's stated to go back as far as Roots, it seems logical.

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