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Christians celebrate Christmas and Easter because they're holy days, Christmas being the birth of Christ, and Easter being the resurrection of Christ. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny came much later. Also, Christmas was moved to December 25th in order to make the date of Jesus' bris January 1st.

What makes you think that followers of Abrahamic religions don't know anything about their religion? Plenty of followers have read their respective holy scriptures, so if a holy person was trying to trick people like you claim, they'd be outed almost instantly.

Of course something passed down through generations like the Torah, Bible, and Qur'an have been are going to have changes. There are claims that Constantine wrote a majority of the New Testament himself. Also, one or two of the Four Gospels were written in about 200 AD, so it's someone telling a story rather than an eyewitness account to Jesus' actions.

Don't forget that Christmas and Easter were also aligned with popular pagan holidays, in order to make it easier for people to convert to the Christian faith. It was ultimately a proselytizing action.

Also, all religions are inherently corrupt the moment of their conception. Their mutations over the years is only a symptom, not the cause.

It sure have work. Most Christians say they are Christians, but do many man made customs.

All customs are man-made, including the ones native to Christianity (the whole none of them).

Humans have to alter things just because they don't like them. Some things I understand like Martin Luther splitting the Catholic Church apart, but others are for humans own desire.

I don't know about y'all, but when people start talking about "humans" like they aren't one themselves it always makes me think they are some villain doing a monologue.

zaseo wrote:Humans have to alter things just because they don't like them. Some things I understand like Martin Luther splitting the Catholic Church apart, but others are for humans own desire.

How was Martin Luther any different than "Humans doing it for their own desire"? You do realize Martin Luther split the Church mainly because of the church's tolerance for Jews at the time, right? He was a huge antisemite, just like much of the Bible is just Paul's sexually repressed, misogynistic bullcrap.

I don't know about y'all, but when people start talking about "humans" like they aren't one themselves it always makes me think they are some villain doing a monologue.

Am I counted in this? Because I'm generally considered not human (I'm also considered a villain, but whatever).

Eh. I might as well throw in some question.

Is masturbation a sin?

Go.

Advent_Winter wrote:Eh. I might as well throw in some question.

Is masturbation a sin?

Go.

Yes it is. When someone masturbates they are thinking lustful thoughts for whatever reason. Also I know it is a bad thing for guys because when a guy ejaculates he will loss minerals, and enzymes. They are important for things like testosterone. Also its possible for a guy to have a deficiency in zinc.

I'm not sure for a woman. I won't "jack off" as they said. I rather wait, and find a woman. I might be a virgin, but from what I hear getting laid is much better than raping some pillow lol.

I disagree. Be careful what you label "sin." What the Bible clearly forbids, such as sex (or lust) before marriage, or lying, or stealing, or murder (or hate)...these are sins. There are certain things the Bible does not mention, and God, who the Bible says is all-knowing, knew when the Bible was written so many years ago, that we would be having this conversation today. Yet He chose to say nothing directly on masturbation. I have my own opinion why, and you may too, but, the point is that God said nothing directly about masturbation in the Bible, and we are putting our own opinions and words higher than God's by filling in the blanks for God and editing His Bible where He didn't want it edited. We have to take the Bible as it is given to us, and that is a book entirely devoid of anything relating to masturbation, minus a few versus that could maybe be twisted to say a certain thing. God is direct. All the other sins are listed directly. He would have listed this one directly too. I am not trying to justify masturbation. I am simply presenting what the Bible says and suggesting that, if the Bible does not say it, it is entirely our opinion. Each person needs to look at the Bible for themselves and pray about it and come to a conclusion for themselves about whether or not masturbation is alright for them. As someone once told me, there is a difference between "unwisdom" and "sin." Be careful what you label "sin" and be even more careful when judging people based on what you label as such.

And one last comment, the Bible does list lusting after someone who is not your spouse as sin. If this is a regular part of masturbation for you, you are committing a sin when you masturbate. Not because of the act of masturbation, but from your impure thoughts about someone else.

I've heard that masturbation is a sin. Not the actual act of masturbation, but the fact that you spilled your seed for something other than to impregnate a woman. Someone whose name escapes me in Genesis was smitten by God because he was having sex with a woman and pulling out. A friend of mine who is very religious told me that the spilled seed must be used to try to impregnate a woman within three days of it spilling. However, I've only read Genesis and the beginning of Exodus, so I can't give any firsthand knowledge on the subject. That's the religious standpoint. I personally can't say whether or not I think it's a sin, because I haven't read enough religious texts to give an opinion that can hold any water. I'm also not very religious anyway, so I don't believe in things like sin.

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." - Matthew 5:27-30

Lustful thoughts, which are naturally associated with masturbation, are frequently condemned throughout the Bible. There is a larger theme throughout the Bible that such thoughts are a vice of the sexually immoral who are condemned by God.

"So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." - 1 Corinthians 10:31

All things should be done to glorify God. Ask yourself honestly if you masturbate for Jesus.

"So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin." - Romans 14:22

Again, all things should be done out of faith to honor God.

"'When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening. Any clothing or leather that has semen on it must be washed with water, and it will be unclean till evening. When a man lies with a woman and there is an emission of semen, both must bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening." - Leviticus 15:16-18

Throughout scripture things such as semen are looked upon as being polluting or unclean. It is clearly given a negative connotation, especially in this context. Note that there is no mention of a partner until the last sentence of the verse. Also notice that it says a person continues to be unclean spiritually even after he is clean physically.

Masturbation is a sin. Unless you've managed to convince yourself that you can masturbate without lustful thoughts at all, that you're doing it for God, and have come up with some rationalization for why these verses portray everything associated with masturbation so negatively that doesn't ultimately bring you to the conclusion that it's immoral, then you can rest assured the Bible condemns it. The Bible is extremely strict about what you can and cannot do with regards to sex.

Azure Knight wrote:I've heard that masturbation is a sin. Not the actual act of masturbation, but the fact that you spilled your seed for something other than to impregnate a woman. Someone whose name escapes me in Genesis was smitten by God because he was having sex with a woman and pulling out.

You're thinking of the story of Onan from Genesis 38.

Also I know it is a bad thing for guys because when a guy ejaculates he will loss minerals, and enzymes. They are important for things like testosterone. Also its possible for a guy to have a deficiency in zinc.

This actually isn't true. Nothing is lost in the act of ejaculation that the man needs; it's not like the male body is going to cannibalize that zinc and enzymes back by eating the sperm if it doesn't ejaculate. That stuff is THERE to lose, and regular ejaculation actually lowers the risk of prostate cancer.

So with that, and combined with the absurdity of an omnipotent being caring about the harmless sexual habits of some monkeys, I don't see anything wrong with masturbation; if you have a man or woman, fine go for it, but if you've no other option, regular masturbation is actually good for your health.

Tell yourself this: Are you saying God wants you to have cancer?

I do not believe it is wrong to ejaculate.
I really don't understand how it could be.
You are harming no one for personal gain as far as I am concerned.

Too much of masturbation can have some adverse effects on you.

If the Illuminati doesn't exist then why are there so many Satanic symbols everywhere. It you go out in public you will likely see the eye somewhere. Something has to be up. There so many symbolic things that is it ridiculous. Well they sure have gotten much of the new generation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hSvacxqR1o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBKDZhu-EZw

This is a good example in Beyonce's video with Lady Gaga there is something odd in that video. At one part of it two guys are faces are covered. One is staying away. The other is attracted. The one that stays away is a homo. The other appears straight. They both have pink on them. Pink can represent femininity, and homosexuality. The one who appears straight must be confuse about his sexuality sense his face is covered up. Also Beyonce, and Lady Gaga plays the role of Cupid. Instead of arrows they have guns and are shooting them. The video puts homo, and bisexuality things in people's mind if they don't know what the symbols are.

In many music videos, games, movie etc there is always stuff like this that are put in the minds of many on a subliminal way.

What Satanic symbols do you see left and right whenever you go out in public? Are you talking about looking at your money? It's no secret that the Eye of Providence is on it. It's because the Eye is on the reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States.

Tom and Jerry is probably the worst thing you could use as evidence; it's obviously poking fun at the conspiracy theories, because that's what the show does. It's being funny.

Halloweentown is the second worst piece of evidence you could use. It's all about magic and the occult, so of course they're going to throw in stuff like that.

Godzilla- The World Trace Center was bombed in 1993.

Simpsons- In that episode with the Mason symbol, Homer joined a secret cult called the Stonecutters. It was another parody on cults.

National Treasure- The Eye of Providence played a big part in the movie because it was trying to use the conspiracy as a plot device.

In regards to your argument about the music video. You're making assumptions like that based on a music video starring Lady Gaga. Of course it's going to be weird like that, but it doesn't mean that every single thing in the video is some kind of symbol.

If the Illuminati were running Hollywood like you claim, don't you think that they'd want to be at least a little secretive about it, rather than putting their symbol and things that are predicting terrorist attacks in TV shows and movies every five seconds? Why would a "secret society" risk being exposed by putting something on a door in The Simpsons?

zaseo wrote:Too much of masturbation can have some adverse effects on you.

Eh. Kinda. It will obviously start to hurt if you try to force something out that isn't there.

Zaseo wrote:If the Illuminati doesn't exist then why are there so many Satanic symbols everywhere. It you go out in public you will likely see the eye somewhere. Something has to be up. There so many symbolic things that is it ridiculous. Well they sure have gotten much of the new generation.

The existance of such a group isn't really determined by satanic symbols that flourish into this world. The entire earth is an ocean of sin. Satanic symbols have been around for quite some time, before the mentioning of the said group above ever came into existance itself.

Zaseo wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hSvacxqR1o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBKDZhu-EZw

This is a good example in Beyonce's video with Lady Gaga there is something odd in that video. At one part of it two guys are faces are covered. One is staying away. The other is attracted. The one that stays away is a homo. The other appears straight. They both have pink on them. Pink can represent femininity, and homosexuality. The one who appears straight must be confuse about his sexuality sense his face is covered up. Also Beyonce, and Lady Gaga plays the role of Cupid. Instead of arrows they have guns and are shooting them. The video puts homo, and bisexuality things in people's mind if they don't know what the symbols are.

In many music videos, games, movie etc there is always stuff like this that are put in the minds of many on a subliminal way.

Or, it could just be a normal music video expressing the artist's poetic ideals and thoughts, and you could have completely missed the point on what they were trying to portray.

Too much of masturbation can have some adverse effects on you.

Prove it.

If the Illuminati doesn't exist then why are there so many Satanic symbols everywhere. It you go out in public you will likely see the eye somewhere. Something has to be up. There so many symbolic things that is it ridiculous. Well they sure have gotten much of the new generation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hSvacxqR1o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBKDZhu-EZw

We've gone over this, Zaseo. Those types of morons on Youtube aren't reputable. Besides, are you familiar with the Confirmation Bias effect?

This is a good example in Beyonce's video with Lady Gaga there is something odd in that video. At one part of it two guys are faces are covered. One is staying away. The other is attracted. The one that stays away is a homo. The other appears straight. They both have pink on them. Pink can represent femininity, and homosexuality. The one who appears straight must be confuse about his sexuality sense his face is covered up. Also Beyonce, and Lady Gaga plays the role of Cupid. Instead of arrows they have guns and are shooting them. The video puts homo, and bisexuality things in people's mind if they don't know what the symbols are.

Way to completely stereotype people with broad generalizations. Pink is the color of love overall. The video has nothing to do with homosexuality, it's portraying the two girls as attractive divas who can get any man they want. Even still, what does homosexuality have to do with anything with the Illuminati and symbols?

In many music videos, games, movie etc there is always stuff like this that are put in the minds of many on a subliminal way.

Subliminal messaging has been proven not to work. Why would this evil conspiracy waste so much time and effort in something that has zero effects?

Maybe you should quit while you're behind, Zaseo.

Also I know it is a bad thing for guys because when a guy ejaculates he will loss minerals, and enzymes. They are important for things like testosterone. Also its possible for a guy to have a deficiency in zinc.

I'm curious, Zaseo, from who or where did you hear this?

Looks like I'm going to need a bigger shovel.