Cubia

mr.classybear · Post by **mr.classybear** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:28 am

naw, i dont thin kti has to do with haseos D drain, i think Cubia might be behind Aida or all the peitath guys.

Bulletcatcher · Post by **Bulletcatcher** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:38 am

Kouen wrote:
Bulletcatcher wrote:
Kouen wrote:Cubia shouldn't even be in G.U. I mean without Kite, Cubia wouldn't really be Cubia.
Cubia wasn't Kite's shadow, but the bracelet's shadow. So even without Kite, as long as unbridled Data Drain exists, Cubia is a possible end result.
Let me guess, Cubia Alpha is the anti-existence of Xth Form and the Avatar Awakening ability. -_-

I think Cubia is the center of AIDA, some sort of "ultimate anti-existence" for the Avatars. It explains why it seems to come from Ovan, who was the center of conflict at the end of Vol. 2.

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:28 am

Cubia is an Anti-Existence , that's pretty much a fact. What we are speculating here is how he comes back, he might be an anti-existing something else other than the bracelet (like maybe resulting in Project GU like I said in an earlier post).

And the trailers had me convinced of Cubia's return.
-it had four eyes
-it had a beast roar
-the shape of its face is similar to Cubia
-the things floating around are very much like Cubia's probes

Unless there is any other enitity with such features I'll still believe that that is Cubia.

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:29 am

Yeah, I mean maybe Cubia could be the anti- to Azure Kite not in literal terms though, but like since Kite wanted to stop the Phases, Cubia wanted to Kill Kite, and everytime he failed, he waited till Kite datadrained another Phase

Now since Azure Kite, wishes to destroy AIDA, it wouldn't be suprise if there was some hidden Cameo of Cubia doing the exact opposite thing, you know what I mean? And maybe, the more powerful Skeith became, the more powerful the Cubia <Alpha> became, and if that IS what's in Ovan's arm, since Skeith became so powerful, Cubia <Alpha> might have finally gained enough power to break out. And if Final Skeith DOES come before the Ovan's super infected Arm, then that'll support that theory.

These are all just speculations/theories/cameo thinking.

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:31 am

It would be so weird if the AIDA in Ovan's arm was Cubia Alpha all along, then somehow the AIDA was able to mature and become Cubia Alpha.

ashlay · Post by **ashlay** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:37 am

Kouen wrote:It would be so weird if the AIDA in Ovan's arm was Cubia Alpha all along, then somehow the AIDA was able to mature and become Cubia Alpha.

well, it is growing bigger and bigger. even to the point of having infection lines spreading into the ovan character's arm and corbinek mutating into a giant gun arm/mini-planet.

the AIDAs you fight in avatar space have always had that feel of evolving creatures, and seeing as how ovan is the oldest known AIDA PC, its not a huge jump to say that cubia alpha is one of the higher evolutionary plateaus of an AIDA.

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:45 am

However we also have to note this.

Cubia <Alpha> has yet to show any proof of being an AIDA, it misses all the AIDA qualities a normal or Higher form that AIDA has, then again so does Ovan's arm in Corbenik's form.

Fragments.beta · Post by **Fragments.beta** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:50 am

Well AIDA is generaly accepted as an anti-existence by fans, though it hasn't been explicitly been proven. Cubia is a confirmed anti-existance, so in the realm of theory making, it makes sense to connect the two.

ashlay · Post by **ashlay** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:53 am

there's also that whole red/black coloration associated with AIDA PCs thing.

Post by **Kuukai** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:01 am

Cubia seems to be growing out of Ovan's arm. You can see that there's now a HUGE tumor on Corbenik's arm, and it looks like that grows into the "meteor".

icakvantum · Post by **icakvantum** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:42 am

Kuukai wrote:Cubia seems to be growing out of Ovan's arm. You can see that there's now a HUGE tumor on Corbenik's arm, and it looks like that grows into the "meteor".

If you watch carefully in the trailer some time before you see Taihaku's face,you will see that Ovan's arm is glowing without the AIDA, maybe Cubia <Alpha> get's released there?

And i don't get this EIna thing. Is she the seed that Ovan took care of? I know that the manga isn't canon but why doesn Ovan go down to his knees to her? Please explain

Skeithwannabe · Post by **Skeithwannabe** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:01 am

Zer0 wrote:
Jimbob wrote:
EyeofCalamity wrote:Hey.. What if Cubia's an Epitaph User of some sort... Think about it.. O_Ooh wait... nahhh.. forget it...
That's I was expecting actually. I thought Cubia was gonna show up as an surprise ninth Avatar somebody unexpected wound up having.
Cubia is Piros' avatar :O

Dude that just wrong if he would been a avatar for anybody it would have been the Original Kite if he came into the seen

Mango · Post by **Mango** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:25 am

I dont think Cubia will have a second form. You'll probably kill Cubia before he even goes into any other form.

Kadaaju · Post by **Kadaaju** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:49 am

Lolz no Cubia's tenrawr's Avatar.

Really if anything, I would have to call Cubia, AIDA's first manisfestation of an Avatar, why do I think this? Well if all the AIDAs are connected to Cubia, we would know this by now

AIDA has gotten Pai's Avatar data through the infection, even though datadrained, the information was still grabbed by the master AIDA, or Cubia in this sense for now.

AIDA also watched over Endrance, and more then likely managed to get a glimps of Endrance's Avatar. Though once Endrance was defeated, the Cat AIDA might have quickly moved out to infect Endrance, in order to grab whatever remains of Avatar data there was.

AIDA pretty much effected Haseo in Vol 3 grabbing EVERY Avatar data, Haseo has faught against, meaning that it has 7/8 Avatar data (If this happens before or after the fight against Yata's Avatar is still unknown).

There for with all 8 Avatars in it's possession, Cubia might have finally began it's resurrection stage? Since it always needed the Phases before to grow, it might need them again this time, just instead of letting Kite do all the work in the previous ones, this time he's doing the work himself, while forcing Haseo to fight each one in some way, others Haseo chose to fight himself. ANd right after Haseo datadrained the last Avatar, Cubia, and AIDA made it's move to grab all the Avatar data from Skeith includnig Skeith's Avatar data ASAP.

awkward_confusion · Post by **awkward_confusion** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:29 pm

Cubia wasn't Kite's shadow, but the bracelet's shadow. So even without Kite, as long as unbridled Data Drain exists, Cubia is a possible end result.

It seems that Cubia is the end result to any unstable entity(s) introduced into The World.

Kouen · Post by **Kouen** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:31 pm

awkward_confusion wrote:
Cubia wasn't Kite's shadow, but the bracelet's shadow. So even without Kite, as long as unbridled Data Drain exists, Cubia is a possible end result.
It seems that Cubia is the end result to any unstable entity(s) introduced into The World.

Cubia could be the end result of a normal PC having the ability to Data Drain. In this situation, Cubia is probably the anti-existence to Haseo's Avatar Awakening ability, which is Data Drain.

Woot 2000 posts, custom title time. : D

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:32 pm

That does seem to be the most likely answer to this...

'Cubia' could be the name given to any antithesis that appears within The World, meaning that this Cubia is the antithesis to the Avatars and most probably the source of the AIDA.

Post by **Kuukai** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:22 pm

Despite being a "shadow", Cubia takes the form of the ancient monster from the Epitaph, presumably no matter what it's shadowing, simply because The World's system based on the Epitaph. That's my explanation, at least...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:19 pm

My idea is that Cubia is the "Ultimate Anti-Existence" from which all the AIDA stems from, and that it's the same AIDA that infected Ovan. The Alpha is referring to a stage of evolution. Perhaps after you beat his Alpha form, he'll shapeshift and he'll be the final, multi-form boss of the series.

As for Aina, Umbra and I are of the theory that she is the "seed" Ovan was raising as his own surrogate daughter, trying to pull off a Harald of sorts, but his AIDA poses a threat to her.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:01 pm

Kuukai wrote:Cubia seems to be growing out of Ovan's arm. You can see that there's now a HUGE tumor on Corbenik's arm, and it looks like that grows into the "meteor".

Do you suppose it will become "free" after another beating (meaning it escapes out of Ovan's PC after a fight).

Which would explain why that face was just floating everywhere.