Spoiler -The end, cobernik and Morganna

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:12 am

Hello!!

I have a question for you. It's about the end of hack quarantine, if Morganna wasn't fused with cobernik then How could Kite DD her? She hadn't a material form so How you can kill wind? Aura was DD but she died with her mother, they said this in the game.

Nilore · Post by **Nilore** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:45 am

Kite didn't DD anyone in the final fight; he didn't have the bracelet.

Basically, Aura sacrificed herself to make the finishing blow on Corbenik. Corbenik died and the final bit of information needed to make the Ultimate AI was gathered and put into the reborn Aura. With Aura reborn, Morganna had served her purpose and was forced to delete herself.
Hope this makes sense.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:56 pm

and Morganna can't really fuse with Corbenic or any other Phase for that matter since they're a part of her already. That'd be like fusing with your foot.

And to correct Nilore, it's not even that Morganna deleted herself. To be specific, Aura absorbed Morganna and deleted the evil parts of Morganna, AKA the "Mode Gone" parts. Otherwise he's right on the nail.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:21 pm

Thank you..wait...Mode Gone parts? did i miss something?

Nilore · Post by **Nilore** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:22 pm

Morganna Mode Gone.

My knowledge on this part is flimbsy, but I think it's the parts of Morganna that were altered to allow her to do what she did (IE: The deleted/altered segment that allowed her to not want Aura to be born).

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:00 pm

Is it the software wavering? I thought that Morganna Mode Gone was her name complete but it is only when Harland introduced the software wavering. I see, it has sense though is a little cruel.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:28 pm

Morganna wasn't supposed to be an A.I. It was supposed to be an ordinary program that did what it was told. But as all the personality data passed through the system and into Aura, it "rubbed off" on Morganna and made her self aware. Wavering is yet another inaccurate theory like the Cubia being an Anti-hacking thingie.

When Morganna gained her own A.I., she became Morganna Mode Gone. When Aura merged with Morganna, she took the important parts, like the personality data Morganna was withholding and the administrative powers over the World and yadda yadda, and then deleted the Morganna mind.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:07 pm

Harald wanted this final AI (Aura)to think like a human and have a full range of human emotions. When Harald introduced "wavering" to Morganna, she reacted unpredictably.

It is said in Liminality so i believe that Morganna was supposed to be a AI though for do to Aura.

.Scythe · Post by **.Scythe** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:41 pm

IMO,Morganna was liek the "activation" program after that she would have no use, when this was reilized she "wavered", and became jeleous and agry preventin Aura from awakining

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:50 pm

It is said in Liminality so i believe that Morganna was supposed to be a AI though for do to Aura.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the little secrets in Liminality aren't official. They only exist in the North American version and it's just fanfiction made up by the translators. It contradicts more reliable sources like .hack//Analysis, interviews with the creators, and, oh yeah, the GAMES.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:01 pm

Where you got hack//analysis?

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:05 pm

Was it Harald that named Morganna? Or did she name herself, I'm confused by a small part of this, then there's also Harald's Memory fragments,

"Earth is the Womb of Life and Death, so the mother is both the Goddess of Life and Death.

"Thus maternity has two sides, Life and Death, so was her manifestation a necessity?"

This either hint's at his regrets of making her sentient or it expresses his confusion over her awarensess. As well to contradict the wavering theory is from Bith's own mouth in Liminality,

"Money, Character's, even equipment traded in the game was to be raw material for the Ultimate AI, somewhere along the lines though, the System itself also achieved a state of awareness."

I'm not sure to the accuracy of the quote but I' sure it's the jist of what Bith says.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:14 pm

Was it Harald that named Morganna? Or did she name herself, I'm confused by a small part of this, then there's also Harald's Memory fragments,

I am very very confused since the information in liminality is fan's work and Morganna for some miracle became a AI, then I will name this "spontaneous generation" for now . HEEELP!!!

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:16 pm

The only people who have the true answers are AuraTwilight and Shinsou Wotan, both expert's of the craft, as well, both can translate japanese well.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:28 pm

Where you got hack//analysis?

Japanese only.

Was it Harald that named Morganna? Or did she name herself, I'm confused by a small part of this

Dunno. No official sources say anything about it. I'd say Morganna named herself, since Harald wasn't expecting her to be self aware.

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:34 pm

I guess that would be why he calls her "That Being" in SIGN, to not acknowledge her by her guvwn name, I wonder if Harald took that as a blow to the face when Morganna achieved awareness, though I doubt this is answered either.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:35 pm

Can you translate hack//analyse? or Is it too long? if you translate it everybody will understand the story better.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:32 pm

.hack//Analysis puts a bunch of emphasis on visuals, so translating it would be just a bunch of gibberish. People can understand the story without .hack//analysis. People need to use their own heads and make their own observations instead of relying on what's spoonfed to them. In the words of Rumor: "You need to develop a discerning ear for what's real and what's false."

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:29 pm

Problem is I'm too gullible and listen to almost any source... Unless it comes to spoiler's I'll deny them too myself up and down until I see them for myself.

Helb · Post by **Helb** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:34 am

People need to use their own heads and make their own observations instead of relying on what's spoonfed to them. In the words of Rumor: "You need to develop a discerning ear for what's real and what's false."

Wow, you are SO nice. The observations of differents persons are differents too but more important is the way like each of them interpret this observations, for this rason there are many discussions about which is correct, the spoils are always a necessity otherwise Why you think in the story? everybody instead can have their own fanfic in their head though they want to have the story.

Problem is I'm too gullible and listen to almost any source... Unless it comes to spoiler's I'll deny them too myself up and down until I see them for myself.

Yes, I agree.