What level is Tsukasa?

Sephiroth0812 · Post by **Sephiroth0812** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:48 am

AuraTwilight wrote:In the games, he's level 15. Subaru is level 5, and I forgot what Sora was. I think it was either level 40, or level 90.

Don´t know about the american (or which version do you have?) version, but in the european version Tsukasa starts with Level 5, Subaru with 15 and Sora with 90.
But since that´s not the real Tsukasa we can´t measure it for the series, except if the A.I. has the Tsukasa-data from the time of the series...but weren´t those A.Is created in ZERO, after sign?

In the series me thinks Tsukasa was around that level or even lower. He had have special powers so he didn´t need much SP to heal...and beside that he could have used also potions in the battle against Morgannas guardians...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:51 pm

The Tsukasa clone, atleast, is supposed to be one of Morganna's failed attempts to clone him before SIGN even begins. (you're right, it is the other way around. Silly me.) But anyway, his level has surely risen in the course of the show. I'm sure by the end of Sign, he's a decent level (killing five or so Dawn Wanderers, a bunch of players, and a few quest boss monsters does that.) I'd guess Tsukasa's around in the 20's by the end of SIGN.

kitedragon · Post by **kitedragon** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:03 pm

In a way, this is another open ended question that the creators never bothered to answer. As he got his Guardian to kill monsters when he's in a bad mood, it depends on what kind of fields. Since he spends much of his time on Delta and Theta, then we may presume he's at least level 20.

TheWall267 wrote:im guessing, if hes around the same level as bear and mimiru, around level 30. this is because in that one dungeon they fight a tetra armor, which is around lvl 30. also he says in the last episode he'll give the fake subaru some "healing potions" and those are general used around the lvl 30 and above.[/spoiler]

In order to get these items that he carries, he needs a bit of experience. Since he had these items, he must have gone to med-level dungeon to recieve these. Also, as he goes to the next level of root towns, he must have had a bit of leveling inorder to venture into there, as he probably went on some of the fields from boredom. (Presuming Tsukasa was clinically depressed, he may still get bored, especially after a year with no true sleep.)

Now, I'm not sure if this is a solid statement I'm making, but near the end, Tsukasa scares away a pair of player killers, thus saving BT. Now, I don't remember if it was because of rumors about him, but it may have been from the weapons that he was carrying.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:35 pm

Keep in mind that Tsukasa can go to secret areas. Why would level restricted areas stop him? Tsukasa can clearly go anywhere he wants in the World, unstopped by any sort of boundaries. Hell, for all we know, he might be able to leave the game map entirely in an area and go into those forests that are just for show or something.

Also, Healing Potions aren't that expensive. A level five player can easily muster up "some healing potions." And since Tsukasa is almost godly with his illegal powers...well...whatever. I'm also gonna have to go for those rumors about him being what scared the PK's, although I think they said something about not wanting witnesses.

Anyway, here's another factor we need to consider. Regardless of it's allegance, the Guardian is still a monster, not a party member. Does Tsukasa collect experience from the Guardian's kills?

kitedragon · Post by **kitedragon** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:42 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Anyway, here's another factor we need to consider. Regardless of it's allegance, the Guardian is still a monster, not a party member. Does Tsukasa collect experience from the Guardian's kills?

Well, we don't know for sure, but it is stated that some players suspect him gaining treasure and experience by using a powerful summoned monster. (Mentioned in the anime.) Still, another plot hole!

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:33 pm

I guess Tsukasa is level 5 because in the game it I use him and it shows that Tsukasa is level 5 and has a level 99 weapon.

Bohgan · Post by **Bohgan** » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:10 pm

the only thing i no is he is not strong at all.

Jugatsu · Post by **Jugatsu** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:17 pm

Well the weapon in the game is called "Tsukasa's staff" is it not? If it is then that doesn't even say what weapon it really is because I doubt 'The World' would have a weapon with like The Partisan's Staff or AuraTwilight's staff(Your names came off the top of my head) so you can't really go with that being an actual weapon. Like I said though I haven't gotten the games but I remember reading about you getting special items when you find them in the later discs. One was supposed to be said weapon.

As for his actual level though, and access. You see him in another server past Theta, but he can easily teleport to/from anywhere so that probably means nothing. In the one server where Bear was getting harrased by whoever the one man was, he said he was supposed to meet Mimiru to go to a dungeon. So that means he did do dungeons with Mimiru so it's hard to tell his level. I'm guessing though the Silver Knight would be atleast 80 or so and he was takin out in one hit from Tsukasa's guardian. It took like four players to take out the other guardian so like you know that the rest would be atleast that if not more, and since it's later in the series I'd guess most of the others would probably be closed to max level like 95 or so, since Crim and Sora seemed to be the strongest still and were level 99 when they fought eachother. Tsukasa wouldn't be that much weaker then the rest but he'd probably be about the same level as Subaru maybe a bit higher, seeing how those two both didn't fight.

Taking all that into account maybe 50-70 seems possible, or maybe 80 but him not wanting to get hurt. I recall somewhere in the anime when another playing raised there hand Tsukasa ducked down and said "Don't hit me!" meaning whether or not he's a high level it is about the pain he wants to avoid.

Wavemaster · Post by **Wavemaster** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:20 pm

but remember...in the games that tsukasa is a ai not the real tsukasa

Jugatsu · Post by **Jugatsu** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:23 pm

Yeah the top part was about the game but the lower two were all from the anime. Oh yeah the first time I mention the Silver Knight I mean the one where he fought Tsukasa and the guardian first appeared, then any other mentions are in the HFHG.

barnabat · Post by **barnabat** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:21 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't someone, around the second half of the series, say somewhere: "Tsukasa is the strongest and most evil player in The World" ?

Temptress Lover · Post by **Temptress Lover** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:20 am

The AI that you can invite into your party in the .hack games is Lv. 5

However, this AI copy was made back when Tsukasa was still depressed and destructive.

Tsukasa began to stop feeling this way halfway through .hack//SIGN, and he's probably actually Lv. 20 or so by the end of the series.

Jugatsu · Post by **Jugatsu** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:13 pm

barnabat wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't someone, around the second half of the series, say somewhere: "Tsukasa is the strongest and most evil player in The World" ?

If I have a gun and shoot 20 people who have knives, I don't need to be physicly stronger to win. They may have said that, but he had his guardian most likely at the time and that was his strength.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:37 pm

Tsukasa isn't evil, so that rumor is obviously baseless. I'm sure any strength Tsukasa has isn't part of in-game parameters. The Guardian, a form of Gate Hacking, why stop there and make him statistically invincible?

DragonoftheEarth · Post by **DragonoftheEarth** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:22 pm

lvl 99

puppypaladin000 · Post by **puppypaladin000** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:57 pm

I think beacause of certain things said 99(final fantasy fanfare!(win battle music))

Temptress Lover · Post by **Temptress Lover** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:26 am

DragonoftheEarth wrote:lvl 99

Impossible. The characters in .hack//SIGN are barely seen visiting the fourth and fifth servers, so it's almost impossbile for them to get a level that high.

Here's what I assume the .hack//SIGN cast levels are: (by the end of the show)

Tsukasa - 20s
Mimiru - 30s
Bear - 40s
BT - 30s
A-20 - 10s
Subaru - 20s-30s
Silver Knight - 30s
Sora - 90
Crim - 99

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:20 pm

Your logic is flawed. Just because they don't visit later servers doesn't mean they CAN'T

Also, Sora and Crim are both confirmed to be maxed out in SIGN.

Tsukasa, for all we know, could be stat-less.

Everyone else seems fine

Jugatsu · Post by **Jugatsu** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:46 pm

I still think they'd have to atleast by somewhat high since the Silver Knight was pwned by Tsukasa's Guardian the first time it showed. Then there was the one Mimiru Bear SK(again) and everyone fighting. So I'm sure SK would be higher by then and the other's would be closer to his level. Sora and Crim yes would be maxed out, SK I'm sure would be high, maybe not maxed but pretty damn high since he's like the second in command knight for the Crimson Knights.
Sora and Crim-99
SK=70-80 Bear and Mimiru probably close to this level
Tsukasa and Subaru maybe 30 or so atleast
As far as A-20 goes, it doesn't matter, but probably 10 or so yeah.

barnabat · Post by **barnabat** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:21 am

The series takes place over a fairly long time frame, a good many months, so they're likel to improve throughout by training anyway.