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ACTA aka SOPA has been sign!

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If you have time check this video out.

I doubt they shall arrest every first that uses Megaupload and other file sharing sites but they can use excuses to arrest or take down any site they want.
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Good news! The only stuff I ever uploaded there was flash games, and the only stuff I ever downloaded... Well, lets just say its not copyrighted in the USA, and not kid friendly.
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Sadly many people won't be to so fortunate with the laws.
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Erranty wrote:Good news! The only stuff I ever uploaded there was flash games, and the only stuff I ever downloaded... Well, lets just say its not copyrighted in the USA, and not kid friendly.
lol
If they're gonna arrest people who downloaded copyrighted stuff from MU, then I may be royally screwed along with like 100% of my classmates. We all spent a lot of time downloading old movies during classes last year, and usually it was either on MU or Mediafire...
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hidora wrote:
Erranty wrote:Good news! The only stuff I ever uploaded there was flash games, and the only stuff I ever downloaded... Well, lets just say its not copyrighted in the USA, and not kid friendly.
lol
If they're gonna arrest people who downloaded copyrighted stuff from MU, then I may be royally screwed along with like 100% of my classmates. We all spent a lot of time downloading old movies during classes last year, and usually it was either on MU or Mediafire...
Remember, they can only track you through your IP addresses. If you did all this downloading at School or at a Cafe you're in the clear! But if you did it from home, you're not gonna be so lucky.
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Crap ACTA (which is basically a worldwide version SOPA or PIPA) has been signed by several countries. The Internet is going to suck when this starts to take affect.
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Question: I have a portuguese .pdf of .hack//AI Buster 1 and 2 that I translated myself on my 4shared account. Would that be considered a copyright infrigiment? o.o
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hidora wrote:Question: I have a portuguese .pdf of .hack//AI Buster 1 and 2 that I translated myself on my 4shared account. Would that be considered a copyright infrigiment? o.o
Only if you charged money for it.
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Erranty wrote:
hidora wrote:Question: I have a portuguese .pdf of .hack//AI Buster 1 and 2 that I translated myself on my 4shared account. Would that be considered a copyright infrigiment? o.o
Only if you charged money for it.
So, as long as I'm not charging for it, it's ok? Good to know :p
I heard 4shared is deleting stuff, so I was kinda wondering if that qualifies...
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hidora wrote:
Erranty wrote:
hidora wrote:Question: I have a portuguese .pdf of .hack//AI Buster 1 and 2 that I translated myself on my 4shared account. Would that be considered a copyright infrigiment? o.o
Only if you charged money for it.
So, as long as I'm not charging for it, it's ok? Good to know :p
I heard 4shared is deleting stuff, so I was kinda wondering if that qualifies...
Well, sites are allowed to delete stuff based on their own criteria. You won't get in trouble, but if there's a chance they would, you might be better off pulling it from there before they do, so you have a copy.
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Erranty wrote:Well, sites are allowed to delete stuff based on their own criteria. You won't get in trouble, but if there's a chance they would, you might be better off pulling it from there before they do, so you have a copy.
Guess I'll just take it off of there and upload it on my blog or something then. Thanks for the explanation.
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Heard something similar is happening in Canada

http://www.petitiononlinecanada.com/pet ... on-act/362
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The Internet is going to epic fail soon with things like Google's new privacy policy.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology- ... 33318.html
Its not like they're already doing this. March 1 they will track everything single thing. March 7 YouTube channels will be force to use the crappy new layout.
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hidora wrote:
Erranty wrote:Well, sites are allowed to delete stuff based on their own criteria. You won't get in trouble, but if there's a chance they would, you might be better off pulling it from there before they do, so you have a copy.
Guess I'll just take it off of there and upload it on my blog or something then. Thanks for the explanation.
It's a derivative work, so it's covered by the Berne Convention and prohibited by copyright laws in most countries. But I haven't head of anyone actually taking a fan translator to court. Usually the worst they'll do is send a cease-and-desist. You could make a claim that it doesn't compete, that it's educational, and that it's fair use, but there's no guarantee that a judge or jury will agree. Those potential claims are probably part of the reason no company's pushed the issue, though. In any case, the technical legal grey zone is why dothackers won't host the Link patch when it's done.

But that's just civil law. Note that new legal developments like ACTA increasingly criminalize infringement, which means that if a TSA guy didn't like the way you looked at him and you had this on your laptop you could end up doing time. The disproportionate penalties for these laws are best described this way:

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The real problem arises from the fact that every kid singing happy birthday, virtually every ipod owner, most youtube channel operators and justin biebers, all technically commit copyright infringement. It's like outlawing being a witch in Salem, since it can be applied to absolutely anyone there's so much potential for the law to be abused just for personal vendettas. What we need is a stronger definition of fair use that reflects reality, and penalties that aren't worse than murder.
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This won't stop all of this so called privacy. It would just make people use the "black market" in different ways.
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zaseo wrote:This won't stop all of this so called piracy. It would just make people use the "black market" in different ways.
If the internet goes down people will just go back to what they did in the 90's. Listen to the radio, hang out, get drunk, have sex, go to work till the next weekend comes, and do it all over again.
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Great theyare trying to bring in something even worse than SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA now.
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zaseo wrote:Great theyare trying to bring in something even worse than SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA now.
Those extra measures will bankrupt ISP providers. Having to store a year's data? All your personal info STORED in hackable servers? No thanks.
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Google new privacy policy sucks. YouTube new layout for the channels also sucks.
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