Dissidia 2 aka Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy confirmed

[zaseo]

The rumors of a second DFF have become truth. Here are the links.
http://psp.ign.com/objects/065/065792.html
http://psp.ign.com/articles/112/1121273p1.html
Spoiler but not surprise Lightning, and Kain shall be characters.

[Kuukai]

I thought this was relatively old news, I think I was looking at screens of Lightning in it before TGS even started...

But "012"? God, Square Enix can't go a year without beating their own record for stupidest game title... There aren't even other competitors!

[Erranty]

Deserves to be a cheap expansion pack at best. 2 confirmed new characters, a new type of summon (assist), and more complex EX moves? Sorry, not worth another $19.

[TheSorrow]

Yeah, i knew this information since Wednesday (and posted my initial gamer-gasm on the Random Facts topic XD), and it was probably published on Tuesday and known even before that. Old-ish news, but still huge news anyhow.

And well, at first i was so damn excited about it, however, now that i've seen more information about all that's been released from it so far, at this point i'm somewhat disappointed and expecting ALOT MORE from it, but fearing we might not get much more. Yeah, Kain is a very awesome character, and Lightning seems even more fun to use than Cecil (3 styles rather than 2, and both widely ground/aerial)...and there's at least one new area, FF13-based, but that's it? Sounds more like DLC material to me, and hell, i got alot more stuff with Red Dead Redemption's DLC :/ A new feature on gameplay is sure amazing, and a well-needed thing if you wish to make a sequel (even though there should be like...4-5 features at least, even basic fighting games like Street Fighter have alot of changes from one game to another)....but, is Assist really ALL we're going to get? It's actually nothing more than getting an extra BRV/HP attack, which it sure is a neat addition but not enough. I think SWITCHING between characters mid-play, and perhaps adding some sort of attacks that can link to switching and leading you to some epic 2-characters combo, would've been MUCH MORE amazing.

Sure, we haven't seen anything just yet, and i'm sure (or at least really hope) they'll show us alot more stuff...but so far, it feels like we're going to play the same game, just with more characters and stuff, and a few extra things that won't change anything in the end. And as a Dissidia lover, i'll sure love it...but, it'll disappoint me as a sequel and i'll just be able to see it as a Dissidia with DLC :/ And among the things i hope to see, they are:
-New story, areas, attacks, summons, weapons, items (Really obvious to expect and most definetly to have...but if it doesn't, then the game already failed as a sequel)
-At least 9 new characters, and Vincent and Rinoa are a MUST to have. Also, if the whole Cosmos/Chaos side is still going, i demand Golbez and Jecht on Cosmos side. And Cosmos Golbez with FF4:After Years outfit would be truly great.
-Even though maybe not playable, both Chaos and Cosmos as fighting characters, and obviously Cosmos being quite the uberpowerful boss as well. Also, a new "final boss" is needed, and it has to be different from Chaos and Cosmos.
-New Gameplay modes (other than Arcade and Duel Colosseum...new stuff is needed).
-(I HOPE BUT IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN) Another addition to gameplay other than Assist. I don't know...something else other than Guard Crush/Wall Rush/Chase/etc, maybe a new form of linked attacks, other ways to avoid attacks, i don't know, just SOMETHING D8

And maybe other stuff, but those are my basic "demands". However, i do have the fear that maybe no more new characters or areas will be shown, the final boss will be some Trance Chaos, we will have new attacks and summons and stuff but they'll matter nothing, and gameplay will be the very exact same, plus Assist. And then i'll be very, very disappointed TT^TT

Oh, and i don't think the name is "ridiculous". It's called "Dissidia Duodecim", and i believe that it's supposed to be read in a way it says something like "The 12 Conflicts/The 12th Conflict", rather than "The 12th Dissidia", and those 12 conflicts mean something important for the story. Dissidia 012 looks awful, but i think Dissidia Duodecim sounds cool >3>

[Kuukai]

Dissidia 012 looks awful

Isn't that what I'm saying? Looks are everything for a title.
All the rationale in the world doesn't help if the end result of that thought process looks stupid. And squenix is a world champion at that.

[CirilloPrimo]

Duodecim Dissidia sounds WAY better than 012 IMO...
I hope hope hope that they'll be more characters than just Kain and Lightning, hopefully we'll see more cool FF characters in it. I'm hoping on vincent!

[TheSorrow]

Dissidia Duodecim Trailer from TGS!!! :D
http://tgs.gamespot.com/video/6276382/

So, all 22 characters from Dissidia, including Shantotto and Gabranth, will be back, plus Kain and Lightning (so far). I saw FF2's final boss stage in a cutscene, so that answers that there will be more areas too, with 2 so far. All other areas seem to be back as well though, something i don't like much...actually, same with characters...having ALL of them return kinda limits the possibilities of more to come, without ending up with a 40+ character rooster :/ Which won't exactly be bad and most fighting games do have 40 characters at least, but still. Good thing though is that, AT LEAST, they have one new HP attack, and that makes me believe that they have whole different attacks in general (maybe just half, maybe the same with some added...whatever it is, they have NEW attacks), so it won't be like just playing the very same Dissidia all over.

Golbez is back...but with the same armor and with Chaos apparently TT^TT Seems like the sides remain the same, with Lightning being added to Cosmos, and Kain to Chaos. And i don't know how the "war" will go on this time, cutscenes and stuff seemed pretty epic overall though. However it is, i hope that the stories involve more meaningful battles, and interactions with both other allies and villians. Dissidia was awesome on the interactions and meaningful battles though...it's just that this time i want more action-paced stories, rather than a carbon copy of OMG CRYSTALZ :P Real interaction with Cosmos would be so freaking great as well (especially with me wanting her as a boss. lol)

[CirilloPrimo]

Eh.... if it's the whole, Lets get our Crystals!, thing again I might not buy it...
I heard that Tifa is confirmed as well
according to some of the people on gamespot , hopefully...

[TheSorrow]

Eh.... if it's the whole, Lets get our Crystals!, thing again I might not buy it...

Would you get it if it was a whole "Let's get our...memories!!" thing, which is exactly the very same as the crystal-getting, with Cosmos telling them pretty things and beating their respective boss in the end? D:
Personally, i want a whole different story, even in the gameplay setting...that is, no longer "separate" stories for each character (like the Destiny Oddyseys), but whole stories that go in order with the events happening at the game (kinda like Shade Impulse), where you're first controlling a character, stuff happens, you're switched to another character, stuff happens, and so on until the last parts where you maybe control a chosen character, or have to use them all again but like one per battle (i would've REALLY loved that in Shade Impulse with the bosses...but i had to do it the "manual" way so i could fight against all bosses with the respective heroes >3>). Maybe even the whole Destiny Points thing could go through a huge change and it'll be much more different this time....i'd enjoy that too. I just don't want more Destiny Oddyseys ~3~ lol

I heard that Tifa is confirmed as well :D
according to some of the people on gamespot , hopefully...

I've heard so too, and i heard very similar rumors about Celes from FFVI. Don't know where the rumors are coming from, and Gamespot members aren't exactly the best source of info, but the rumors are a little too big to just ignore. And well, Celes would be a GREAT addition (such an important character, would have a great "red mage-ish" fighting style, and YAYZ MORE FEMALES), and though Tifa would be freaking great too and also fulfills the YAYZ MORE FEMALES part....that could mean we wouldn't see Vincent. And i so really want to see him on Dissidia!! TT^TT I'm SO VERY INTERESTED in how they would make his attacks (a moveset for such a gunner would be great to see), and his EX Mode could be so epic with all the Limits he has on FFVII...while Tifa, being awesome and all, would just be a combination of Kingdom Hearts 2's Tifa and Jecht's moveset. I really think they'll go ahead and choose Tifa over Vincent though, as she'll make such a great connection with Cloud and be very important to him and stuffz, and they'd avoid possible confusions with Vincent's EX Mode in the very-likely case that is Chaos.
....
Though well, they could use THAT as some sort of Dissidia plot device, and maybe add both Tifa AND Vincent as characters, Tifa with the obvious link with Cloud, and Vincent as some special enemy directly linked to Garland and Chaos >3>

We'll see 83 lol

[(Phantom) Thief]

Tifa was already confirmed. That aside, unlike the others I haven't played the original game. But I wouldn't mind a different story. Still Dissidia is based around a thick concept, two sides stuck in constant war that reset per victor. The first game was the 13th if I remember, 12 might be a reference to some kind of prequel. At least that's what everyone speculates. (I personally for it being combo of games one and two.) Ah still saving up for Universal Tuning...

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[Azure Kite]

Hoping Tifa is fun to play.

[Erranty]

Perhaps you have to fight summons as final bosses to each storyline now?

[TheSorrow]

Perhaps you have to fight summons as final bosses to each storyline now?

What makes you say that? Just a random idea you came up with?
It's not a bad idea at all though, in fact i like it o-o Though we would have like 12 different bosses at least in total, and actual bosses you probably aren't going to be able to use (like Chaos). I think it would be great, but honestly i don't really see it happening, unless there has actually been some hint or whatever about it >3>;

[Erranty]

Perhaps you have to fight summons as final bosses to each storyline now?

What makes you say that? Just a random idea you came up with?
It's not a bad idea at all though, in fact i like it o-o

Kinda random, but kinda not. Since you have other characters as "assists" now, you might have to earn summons a different way, and they might even be "actual summons" like in FF12 and 13 where the come out an help.


Something I'm REALLY hoping for is Chaos side storylines. I'd buy it for sure if it had that.

[Tolby]

I wonder if XI will get anyone else. I would love to play as Aldo.

[_Tri-edge_]

The confirmation of Tifa as a PC was all I needed.

[TheSorrow]

Perhaps you have to fight summons as final bosses to each storyline now?

What makes you say that? Just a random idea you came up with?
It's not a bad idea at all though, in fact i like it o-o

Kinda random, but kinda not. Since you have other characters as "assists" now, you might have to earn summons a different way, and they might even be "actual summons" like in FF12 and 13 where the come out an help.


Something I'm REALLY hoping for is Chaos side storylines. I'd buy it for sure if it had that.

And lookie at what a friend showed me minutes after you posted that reply 8D lol

I didn't really want storylines (as i said, i preferred one large, unique storyline, in which all characters become playable at different points), but, if it's going to have Chaos storylines, i can't complain now o3o
And now it's official too...It's called "Dissidia Duodecim" due to being the 12th battle between Cosmos and Chaos...so, it's going to be a prequel to the original game. So it's very likely that here we will see many events described in Dissidia...such like Terra being sided to Chaos, Jecht sided to Cosmos, Sephiroth killing himself, etc. And maybe too we'll see things such like Cloud "losing his dream" (most likely related to Tifa), the promise Squall made, and other things that, originally, we thought they were related to the original series, but are actually referred to past Dissidia battles. I'm once again very excited for seeing the game and how the plot will be, and am coming with so many theories and thoughts already.

[zaseo]

It isn't a wish to be, but if only Ramza, and Orlandu could be in this game.