New Law in Arizona Regarding Illegal Immigrants

[Erranty]

Except this is America. It goes against everything America supposedly stands for. It has good intentions, but so does the road to hell.

What America stands for changes with every presidential speech.

[AuraTwilight]

LOL OH WOW

Erranty, did you just try to justify this law by comparing it to Communist Russia?

[Erranty]

LOL OH WOW

Erranty, did you just try to justify this law by comparing it to Communist Russia?

Yeah. I liked Communist Russia. Them being our competition for over 50 years made the planet leap way ahead in technological development.

[AuraTwilight]

And we were in competition with them because their cultural values were completely antithetical to America's, you dunderhead.

[shugo_lover]

Sounds like there actually starting to enforce things. It makes me kinda glad. Its annoying that the people being here illegally can get all this stuff and jobs when help are country can't. I'm insted of trying to reform Iraq we could be helping mexico with there government. So they would want to stop hoping over the border.

[Erranty]

And we were in competition with them because their cultural values were completely antithetical to America's, you dunderhead.

We're due for a change in government. Most only stay in place for a few decades before a revolution happens. We've gone about 15 decades, and our current government is failing us.

Sounds like there actually starting to enforce things. It makes me kinda glad. Its annoying that the people being here illegally can get all this stuff and jobs when help are country can't. I'm insted of trying to reform Iraq we could be helping mexico with there government. So they would want to stop hoping over the border.

Yeah, that's what set me off. Illegal immigrants, NON-CITIZENS, got free medical treatment before the actual people of the nation did, 4 years ago!

[Mirus]

@Mirus, Like I said before. Numbers and letters on several sheets of paper don't ultimately label your intelligence, or at the very least, have very little connection with using a simple literacy device in the right situations.

Funny how you completely ignored my questions and fail to back up your previews and current ideas.
By the way I never claimed to be intelligent, the fact it’s an ENGLISH exam means I should have some knowledge on how to use metaphors, the fact you could not understand my metaphor is purely a personal problem of yours. So let go because you are overly redundant with the word “intelligence”.

What do you guys think about the Arizona law enforcement officers practically being forced to racially profile?

I hope a lot of them quit and open Arizona’s eyes but I doubt that will happen.

I was being...sarcastic? :/ Sorry if it caused any distress to you though. I'm just like that around here.

The topic itself makes my blood boil (Notice my replies are not as “light” as they usually are) so sorry I find sarcasm as a sort of attack so I don’t react pretty well to it

I'm not outraged by this because the Soviet Union used to do that constantly, and it made their nation very secure. The only issue was that their economy wasn't stable because they were using a "Low standard" communist economy.

Are you implying that the majority of illegal immigrants are dangerous?
Because if you are I can tell you now, you are erroneous

Well, the issue is that the majority of the US people want to do so, they're even willing to patrol it with their own vehicles and their own guns. But there are laws in place preventing them from doing so.

“the majority” speak for yourself considering our current president there is a good chance the “majority” is more liberal than conservative and your ideas are very “right-wing” including fire arms procession and somewhat isolationist ideals

I'm insted of trying to reform Iraq we could be helping mexico with there government.

Good idea

We're due for a change in government. Most only stay in place for a few decades before a revolution happens. We've gone about 15 decades, and our current government is failing us.

I highly doubt the government will change anytime soon. If you’d like a different government please do not hesitate on moving to another country

[Azure Knight]

And we were in competition with them because their cultural values were completely antithetical to America's, you dunderhead.

We're due for a change in government. Most only stay in place for a few decades before a revolution happens. We've gone about 15 decades, and our current government is failing us.

What's with people thinking we need a change of government after a certain amount of time like they're bedsheets?

I hope a lot of them quit and open Arizona’s eyes but I doubt that will happen.

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

[Mirus]

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

If a significant amount quits then maybe Arizona will figure out that what it's doing is irrational. I cannot find a better solution other than having the officials NOT enforce it but then they would be fired, and I believe a large amount of people who quit would deliver a more powerful message than a large amount of people fired

And yes, it is "dumb" but so is using billions of dollars to go to space it's not like we'll find the cure to cancer there

[_Tri-edge_]

Funny how you completely ignored my questions and fail to back up your previews and current ideas.By the way I never claimed to be intelligent, the fact it’s an ENGLISH exam means I should have some knowledge on how to use metaphors, the fact you could not understand my metaphor is purely a personal problem of yours. So let go because you are overly redundant with the word “intelligence”.

Okay, that's enough Mirus.^^; As far as I'm concerned, he stopped posting to let the topic continue without anymore off topic conflict as Azure Knight instructed. You should drop it as well, otherwise you're just adding fuel to the fire. Like AK said, take it to the PM's, 'kay sweetie?

So, how does this law reflect elsewhere? Are other states considering making laws regarding immigration to this degree as well?

[Azure Knight]

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

If a significant amount quits then maybe Arizona will figure out that what it's doing is irrational. I cannot find a better solution other than having the officials NOT enforce it but then they would be fired, and I believe a large amount of people who quit would deliver a more powerful message than a large amount of people fired

And yes, it is "dumb" but so is using billions of dollars to go to space it's not like we'll find the cure to cancer there

Although there may be no better solution, this is impossible. Just because there HAS to be someone to enforce the law, the good ones and the bad. If all the cops in Arizona quit, the whole state would be on fire in minutes.

@_Tri-Edge_- I haven't heard anything yet about other states adopting this law, and I hope I don't.

Also, Mirus, enough about what Advent_Winter said. And _Tri-Edge_, if she says anything more, please just don't respond. It's also just adding fuel to the fire.

[shugo_lover]

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

If a significant amount quits then maybe Arizona will figure out that what it's doing is irrational. I cannot find a better solution other than having the officials NOT enforce it but then they would be fired, and I believe a large amount of people who quit would deliver a more powerful message than a large amount of people fired

And yes, it is "dumb" but so is using billions of dollars to go to space it's not like we'll find the cure to cancer there

This is so true. If you ask me some things like cancer shouldn't require money.

[Azure Knight]

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

If a significant amount quits then maybe Arizona will figure out that what it's doing is irrational. I cannot find a better solution other than having the officials NOT enforce it but then they would be fired, and I believe a large amount of people who quit would deliver a more powerful message than a large amount of people fired

And yes, it is "dumb" but so is using billions of dollars to go to space it's not like we'll find the cure to cancer there

This is so true. If you ask me some things like cancer shouldn't require money.

Umm...what?

[shugo_lover]

I don't think they should quit. I just think it's dumb that they're forced to enforce this when there are real criminals out there.

If a significant amount quits then maybe Arizona will figure out that what it's doing is irrational. I cannot find a better solution other than having the officials NOT enforce it but then they would be fired, and I believe a large amount of people who quit would deliver a more powerful message than a large amount of people fired

And yes, it is "dumb" but so is using billions of dollars to go to space it's not like we'll find the cure to cancer there

This is so true. If you ask me some things like cancer shouldn't require money.

Umm...what?

She's talkin about not finding cancer in space and we'll never find it here either because we can't afford it. In my oppinion things like that shouldn't require money but anyway back on topic. I think most place should have this law. Whats so bad about them stoping you and asking if you can prove that your a resident (because if they are then they should have the stuff.)

[Azure Knight]

Because the law would be enforced totally based on profiling. Also, it'd mean that they'd have to carry around their papers with them at all times, which nobody does.

[_Tri-edge_]

Also, it's not the act itself of asking someone to show proper documentation of their citizenship that's the problem here. It's the group of people who will most likely get questioned because of their racial characteristics. Basically, this law in simple terms is this:

"Hmm...That man/woman doesn't appear to be an American. Suspicious. Probably illegal. Better ask just in case."

[Mirus]

Whats so bad about them stoping you and asking if you can prove that your a resident (because if they are then they should have the stuff.)

I'll answer your question with a question...


How would YOU feel if everytime you passed by a police officer they go up to you and ask you to prove something?

I would be outraged if I had to carry papers all the time

Besides some officers might take advantage of this and bully foregin-looking people, it happens even without the law the law would probably increase it

[shugo_lover]

Whats so bad about them stoping you and asking if you can prove that your a resident (because if they are then they should have the stuff.)

I'll answer your question with a question...


How would YOU feel if everytime you passed by a police officer they go up to you and ask you to prove something?

I would be outraged if I had to carry papers all the time

Besides some officers might take advantage of this and bully foregin-looking people, it happens even without the law the law would probably increase it

So what thats the point. The problem his with hispanic people so if someone looks something of that race then yeah there gonna ask them. Also I would say "No prob." because I would have my papers. So god forbit they should have to start carrying aorund there papers. Just shove them in your wallet or purse.

[Mirus]

So what thats the point. The problem his with hispanic people so if someone looks something of that race then yeah there gonna ask them. Also I would say "No prob." because I would have my papers. So god forbit they should have to start carrying aorund there papers. Just shove them in your wallet or purse.

Just out of curiousity, are you aryan?

[Azure Knight]

Whats so bad about them stoping you and asking if you can prove that your a resident (because if they are then they should have the stuff.)

I'll answer your question with a question...


How would YOU feel if everytime you passed by a police officer they go up to you and ask you to prove something?

I would be outraged if I had to carry papers all the time

Besides some officers might take advantage of this and bully foregin-looking people, it happens even without the law the law would probably increase it

So what thats the point. The problem his with hispanic people so if someone looks something of that race then yeah there gonna ask them. Also I would say "No prob." because I would have my papers. So god forbit they should have to start carrying aorund there papers. Just shove them in your wallet or purse.

Do you know what happened last time the US enforced a law that racially profiled? The Japanese-Americans were rounded up and put in internment camps. Yep, "No prob."