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Opening's really starting to grow on me. Sure it's not as surreal or strange as BURN MY BED but it's not bad.
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imo, the female MC looks like she won't  give her life to save the world like minato did
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How can you base your predictions of a whole story on what one single character looks like? To change the ending they'd either have to nerf the final boss a lot or make the party a lot stronger and that'd just be bad.
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idk she just looks like a totally diffrent person from minato. she looks like a cheery girl
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Kyero Fox wrote:idk she just looks like a totally diffrent person from minato. she looks like a cheery girl
Ohhh yeah this will have such a drastic effect on the plot SOOOOO MUCH. Because she's cheerful LOOKING... uh huh. Yep.

Look if the only one that gender swapped for the female MC was Elizabeth (who I dub Elizaberto out of pure boredom. I'd say he looks like a refined Kanji... but... whatever) I really DOUBT they will alter the plot on this ****'s account (if they do I'll be pretty damn impressed, but it really wouldn't be on looks alone... but you can't argue much for personality either since you're controlling her). She'll probably die the same stupid death. The only difference I see (but not really) is her passing out on Aigis' lap face down rather than face up (partly because the intro likes showing her upside down more than Minato. Mainly implied lesbianism) and dying soon after.
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Gemcrim wrote:Wow... even the intro is a disappointment... ****
WHERE IS "BURN MY DREAD" ATLUS? YOU DAMN CUNTS! That was one of the few songs in the game that I didn't hate and now it's gone. Sure they may have the "rap version" for the Nyx fight still, but that one sucked in comparison to the opening one.
Persona 3 FES is 4GB, so fitting that all on a UMD, something had to give.
They seem to have a whole new sound track for playing as the girl. If playing as Minato doesn't share that same sound track and has the whole damn OST from the original P3 then I think they can fit one more stupid song in, maybe even have enough space for the original intro. Even if all the songs are replaced I'd still think there's room for one more stupid song, further with how everything looks downgraded as hell... I really just can't see much of an excuse regarding space issues and having that song in somewhere. Yeah I'm making a big deal of it, but with the product I'm seeing, I don't really see P3P taking advantage of the PSP... like at all, so once again I don't see this as an issue with limited space regarding this song at the very least, besides which it could be in there... I'd just like it as the intro song still.
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I dunno, Gemcrim, I've certainly posited minifics in my head about the plot involving alternate universes where you control both, depending on the universe, and the girl is placed in Minato's shoes at the end, but feels unable to actually go through with it...when Minato does it in his universe and it turns out the sealing of Nyx goes across all dimensions. Insert Female MC cheering on Minato and everyone with the rest of the group. Insert her own personal ending, where she has the Universe Arcana, but didn't sacrifice herself.

"The Me from the Other Side that made that choice...I'll find a way to save him, and return him to the people he cares about. I...I don't have much power to my name, but I'm not just one person. Strength of heart, united, is barred by no door."
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AuraTwilight wrote:I've certainly posited minifics in my head about the plot involving alternate universes where you control both, depending on the universe, and the girl is placed in Minato's shoes at the end, but feels unable to actually go through with it...
Yeah I've seen some people post theories along those lines and making speculation based on the intro, such as Minato taking a step forward as she steps back (guessing she's unable to face Nyx the same way Minato would). SO it could be possible, part of this is hope that the plot isn't altered for a few reasons. First, I personally don't want to feel compelled to purchase the same game for a third time... assuming this is released out of Japan but I don't see why it wouldn't, especially when it looks cheap in comparison to the originals (yeah it's lame to **** about graphics especially when they weren't state of the art in the first place, especially after actually playing the older Megaten games at some point including the first 2 Persona games (3...kinda) but if there isn't really A LOT that's new... do I really want to make this purchase?), second is that if the plot isn't altered in the way that people are theorizing then female MC's story is non canon anyway.

Now if the plot is altered as stated by you and others I wonder something, could this female MC have involvement in Elizabeth's plan to free Minato from the Great Seal while still holding Nyx as Margaret mentions in P4? It may sound ridiculous in itself but taking into consideration that Elizabeth is a denizen of the Velvet room an entirely different realm (though this may seem insignificant, I can't claim to know what power she may have aside from using multiple Personae, I'm just making a wild guess that because she is powerful and from the Velvet room she maybe be able to achieve something within an alternate universe.), and that the Abyss of TIme in The Answer (and the fact that if I remember correctly the Kirijo group's original purpose of gathering Shadow's was for a time manipulation device) allows time to be altered (at least allowing a fight with Erebus) there could be SOME way for that to work. But I'm making wild guesses and speculation on what CAN be used, on what COULD be. So I'll say the plot COULD be different, but it could be the same, and knowing it's a port more than a side story (or at least that seems to be the case) I'm quicker to believe that the plot would be almost the same.
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second is that if the plot isn't altered in the way that people are theorizing then female MC's story is non canon anyway.
Not in my speculation. It doesn't interfere at all, so ha ha ha ha ha I win f*ck you guys.
Now if the plot is altered as stated by you and others I wonder something, could this female MC have involvement in Elizabeth's plan to free Minato from the Great Seal while still holding Nyx as Margaret mentions in P4? It may sound ridiculous in itself but taking into consideration that Elizabeth is a denizen of the Velvet room an entirely different realm (though this may seem insignificant, I can't claim to know what power she may have aside from using multiple Personae, I'm just making a wild guess that because she is powerful and from the Velvet room she maybe be able to achieve something within an alternate universe.), and that the Abyss of TIme in The Answer (and the fact that if I remember correctly the Kirijo group's original purpose of gathering Shadow's was for a time manipulation device) allows time to be altered (at least allowing a fight with Erebus) there could be SOME way for that to work. But I'm making wild guesses and speculation on what CAN be used, on what COULD be. So I'll say the plot COULD be different, but it could be the same, and knowing it's a port more than a side story (or at least that seems to be the case) I'm quicker to believe that the plot would be almost the same.
I always imagined Elizabeth and Aigis would team up for that purpose. Throw in Female MC too, I guess. Though no, the Abyss of Time ceased existing after the Answer, and even then, it doesn't really allow for time travel and manipulation in the way required, and even if so, we're explicitly told that this is WRONG. The only way to save Minato, it's insinuated, is to enlighten humanity so that we don't wish for Nyx anymore.
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I always imagined Elizabeth and Aigis would team up for that purpose. Throw in Female MC too, I guess. Though no, the Abyss of Time ceased existing after the Answer
I assumed it was completely gone, but because I didn't actually see it vanish as I saw Tartarus I'd have thought there could be a chance though very unlikely or completely nonexistent.

Only thing I would question due to the fact Minato is already dead, what would become of his life essence should the seal no longer be needed? Reincarnation? Becoming a denizen of another world like the Velvet room? He just will cease to exist (I push for this if only to go with the theme of death, I will also state I wasn't fond of FES' option to bring Chidori back to life)? Curious to hear thoughts on this... but that's going off topic I guess... I dunno.

Ah here's something, is it possible the female MC could share the name Minato (yeah it's the manga name for the male in P3, but I think it can be used for a female as well)? Or do you think she'd be nameless as I doubt there'd be a manga adaption or novel involving her.
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Gemcrim wrote:Ah here's something, is it possible the female MC could share the name Minato (yeah it's the manga name for the male in P3, but I think it can be used for a female as well)? Or do you think she'd be nameless as I doubt there'd be a manga adaption or novel involving her.
Everyone I've seen that's given her a name has just caller her "Minako." It works.


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Either it stays the same with Yukari (kinda doubt it), that or they stick her with Junpei or Akihiko (Really hoping for the latter here... and that it's HIM showering...<3)
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Only thing I would question due to the fact Minato is already dead, what would become of his life essence should the seal no longer be needed? Reincarnation? Becoming a denizen of another world like the Velvet room? He just will cease to exist (I push for this if only to go with the theme of death, I will also state I wasn't fond of FES' option to bring Chidori back to life)? Curious to hear thoughts on this... but that's going off topic I guess... I dunno.
Um...Minato gained OMNIPOTENT POWER. He could just come back to life like it was nothing.
Everyone I've seen that's given her a name has just caller her "Minako." It works.
Agreed. She's Minako now.

@Comic Mellow posted: If they're siblings in the same universe, what role would Minako play? Would they both get a piece of Pharos or something and their twin telepathy lets him communicate with both of them as a whole, or...?

Because they obviously have to do something with that so that she can have the Wild Card.
Actually what the hell are they going to do with the love hotel?
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AuraTwilight wrote:
Only thing I would question due to the fact Minato is already dead, what would become of his life essence should the seal no longer be needed? Reincarnation? Becoming a denizen of another world like the Velvet room? He just will cease to exist (I push for this if only to go with the theme of death, I will also state I wasn't fond of FES' option to bring Chidori back to life)? Curious to hear thoughts on this... but that's going off topic I guess... I dunno.
Um...Minato gained OMNIPOTENT POWER. He could just come back to life like it was nothing.
I don't believe he would part of why is because he found his answer to life (though you can say the same of Aigis), another part of it is because his body is likely buried or cremated and by the time SEES achieves its current goal (of making people not want to die so Erebus would stop dicking around and quit existing), if at all, had MInato lived out his life he'd be long dead so even if he could, having his answer and his friends likely dead an gone, why would he? Yes you can say he can return using his GOD POWERS and he doesn't particularly need a reason, but I find that being able to, even with the "power of the Universe" goes against the theme of the game that everything dies, everything has a limited time in the world.

Lastly, though Minato gained great power I doubt he can do absolutely everything, he couldn't seal away Nyx and live out the rest of his life, that fact is he died on Graduation Day and seemed to only be alive by sheer force of will, personally I thought it wasn't a simple task and if he had as much power as claimed I say it should have been a cinch for him to seal Nyx away and continue living his life without interruptions, become immortal even... but he didn't.
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I don't believe he would part of why is because he found his answer to life (though you can say the same of Aigis), another part of it is because his body is likely buried or cremated and by the time SEES achieves its current goal (of making people not want to die so Erebus would stop dicking around and quit existing), if at all, had MInato lived out his life he'd be long dead so even if he could, having his answer and his friends likely dead an gone, why would he? Yes you can say he can return using his GOD POWERS and he doesn't particularly need a reason, but I find that being able to, even with the "power of the Universe" goes against the theme of the game that everything dies, everything has a limited time in the world.
And I agree. I'm just saying, he could, and there's nothing really stopping him. But then, at the same time, Aigis' and Elizabeth's goal is pretty much hopeless anyway, so it's all conjectural. I'd like to think that Minato, who's life was cut short, would atleast come back to see his friends for a brief time.
Lastly, though Minato gained great power I doubt he can do absolutely everything, he couldn't seal away Nyx and live out the rest of his life, that fact is he died on Graduation Day and seemed to only be alive by sheer force of will, personally I thought it wasn't a simple task and if he had as much power as claimed I say it should have been a cinch for him to seal Nyx away and continue living his life without interruptions, become immortal even... but he didn't.
Nyx also has omnipotent power. When two gods clash, they kinda cancel out.
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AuraTwilight wrote:Nyx also has omnipotent power. When two gods clash, they kinda cancel out.
Yeah... I didn't really take that into consideration.
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And I agree. I'm just saying, he could, and there's nothing really stopping him. But then, at the same time, Aigis' and Elizabeth's goal is pretty much hopeless anyway, so it's all conjectural. I'd like to think that Minato, who's life was cut short, would atleast come back to see his friends for a brief time.
Maybe he could, taking into consideration what you said on Nyx and Minato it could be possible that he's capable of coming back. So I think I can come to agree on this.

Now a question, have the fans named the male Elizabeth yet like they already named Minako?
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I've heard "Eli" float around. I haven't seen good enough scans to confirm if it's official or just a fan name. I'd believe either.
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Hey people I was just wondering , they wrote that the game with the male MC will be slightly changed what do you think it will be? :)
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Jindan wrote:Hey people I was just wondering , they wrote that the game with the male MC will be slightly changed what do you think it will be? :)
More costumes.
Also, is it just me (probably my bad eyesight) or did I see different costumes on the screenshots from Female MC gameplay.

The OP theme is not that bad, it's just a little different from what I could have expected, I guess I got kind of attached to Burn My Dread/Bread/Bed.
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They said the story will be different even if you pick the Male MC. Since they're not porting the Answer (P3P is just the Journey), I have to wonder...what if they change they change the ending so the MC lives happily ever after? GAG.

Also, the OP implies, to me, that Ryoji might be introduced WAAAAY earlier.
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I was only kidding on the costumes, I should have said it just in case >__>;;
AuraTwilight wrote:I have to wonder...what if they change they change the ending so the MC lives happily ever after? GAG.
Ugh, hopefully not. The ending was fine the way it was, at least I think so; but I am curious as to what they'll change to the original story.
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