Sora . Haseo and skieth [relationship]

[Versus Knight]

hi all : )
come to think of it there is a strong relationship between Haseo and Skieth
also between Sora from the fist .hack installment ; and thanks to that Haseo
the epitaph user of Terror of Death .. Why ?

basically " haseo is sora .. cuz the two player have the same controller
i mean that lucky guy Ryou Misaki plays THE WORLD R1 with Sora and the R2
With Haseo .. and because of that relationship between Sora and skieth the epitaph
goes to haseo .

more infos in .hack wikia in haseo's and sora's page ^^

what do you think about that ??

[TheSorrow]

Well, of course there's a strong relationship between Haseo and Skeith. Epitaph Users have a strong relation with their Avatars to begin with, and Skeith has a part of Sora within it, so it's like Haseo is linked to his older self, the one he has forgotten about because of Skeith itself (you could say Skeith "drained" Sora from Ryou, though it's different and somewhat more complex than merely that). There's nothing i can say about it other than all it's been said and proven, they HAVE a strong relationship for many reasons, and that can be seen clearly in Redemption when they talk to each other...Haseo was basicly talking to his old self. And of course we'd know about the .Hack wiki and it's contents. Several important editors of that site are members from here XD

And i must say that your 2nd post was both double-posting and spam, both uneeded and against the rules. Instead of double posting, you could just edit your last post to add anything else you want to say, and though bumping an old topic can prevent the topic from being "dead" and for when you want to get more replies after a long time of not having any...this topic was just created hours ago and was way up in the first page. Just saying because you could get more positive attention and good replies if you follow the rules better :P

[AuraTwilight]

Welcome to the news of two years ago.

[Assassin]

WelL I geSsYouR Gess Is TheRight Gess mAN...

[Versus Knight]

Welcome to the news of two years ago.

rude as always aura (-.-')
you have a problem with me or what ?!

[shugo_lover]

This has been known for a decade now.

[_Tri-edge_]

Not that long Shugo_lover.lol

Versus Knight, it's not that AT has a problem or anything. It's just the truth, no matter how rude or unbelieveably sarcastic she tells it. This has literally been discuss plenty of times, just a few years ago. XD

[Versus Knight]

And i must say that your 2nd post was both double-posting and spam, both uneeded and against the rules. Instead of double posting, you could just edit your last post to add anything else you want to say, and though bumping an old topic can prevent the topic from being "dead" and for when you want to get more replies after a long time of not having any...this topic was just created hours ago and was way up in the first page. Just saying because you could get more positive attention and good replies if you follow the rules better

gracias amigo " and i am sorry about that : )

[Gemcrim]

Not that long Shugo_lover.lol

It may as well be, really now noone should be discussing this topic as if it's groundbreaking news unless they're the kind of idiot who comments in .hack videos on Youtube or something (meaning my standards for what those idiots talk about is VERY low). So really there's no excuse for to bring this topic up, like at all. And if it's on the wiki odds are everyone here knows it, or probably should. It's really old news, and annoying as hell among other things. So I will have to support Shugo_lover's exaggeration.

[Versus Knight]

Not that long Shugo_lover.lol

It may as well be, really now noone should be discussing this topic as if it's groundbreaking news unless they're the kind of idiot who comments in .hack videos on Youtube or something (meaning my standards for what those idiots talk about is VERY low). So really there's no excuse for to bring this topic up, like at all. And if it's on the wiki odds are everyone here knows it, or probably should. It's really old news, and annoying as hell among other things. So I will have to support Shugo_lover's exaggeration.

damn you to hell " the idiot here is you
we are here for gives our ides and point of thinking
so dont play smart clumsy freak idiot !

hope i'll not see you -_-'

[Assassin]

Not that long Shugo_lover.lol

It may as well be, really now noone should be discussing this topic as if it's groundbreaking news unless they're the kind of idiot who comments in .hack videos on Youtube or something (meaning my standards for what those idiots talk about is VERY low). So really there's no excuse for to bring this topic up, like at all. And if it's on the wiki odds are everyone here knows it, or probably should. It's really old news, and annoying as hell among other things. So I will have to support Shugo_lover's exaggeration.

JusT Be CooL Man LikeA Col Water ...^^If you Smart enough honey then choose your words cos you piss me and athers off ^-^if you dont

[TheSorrow]

Welcome to the news of two years ago.

rude as always aura (-.-')
you have a problem with me or what ?!

Versus Knight, meet AuraTwilight, a God and/or Goddess doing what he does best...being AuraTwilight. I hope you have an awesome time together.
Also, i see you've met Gemcrim as well. He's a good guy :D

Now, let me tell you something about the forums and the members. This isn't your average little forum with lots of people spamming "OMG I agree ^_^" on every post and talking and discussing about whatever random happens...this is a forum with very smart members with lots of knowledge about .Hack and many other things, who don't tolerate n00bs going around posting stuff that's been known for a long time, or just overall pointless things, and won't hesitate in saying what they exactly think without being any "nice". I'm nicer and tolerate these kind of posts far more...but don't even think i'm actually nice or different than them; direct me to posts talking about how the Azure Knights are hard at lv130 or the Doppel weapons are the best and i will KILL those posts as well as the authors of them XD

Anyways, now that that's covered, this information (the relationship between Haseo and Skeith), as well as pretty much every other topic you've made, are all information that's very well known by EVERYONE in here, and so, it's considered as pretty much an "useless topic" for everyone. Gemcrim isn't playing smart or just wanting to offend you, he's saying the truth, and he's not the only one who'll say something like that (maybe not as direct or "hostile" as him, but same thing anyhow). You want discussions and debates, but about facts everyone knows, and about topics that has been heavily discussed and so nothing else can be said about them....even if they haven't been discussed before, they're pointless to talk about. It's like trying to debate about Haseo being The Terror of Death...alright, Haseo IS The Terror of Death, and we all know it. Discussion over, nothing else to be talked about. This is pretty much the way each one of your topics are...mentioning facts, facts being truth, discussion over even before it started.

All advice i can give to you is to give up with trying to make discussions about very well known facts, admit that everyone in here knows all you know about .Hack and far more...and just stay active and learn from the members and the forum themselves. And just don't try too hard and be a good member overall :P

tl;dr: Lurk moar.

[fepkk]

Not that long Shugo_lover.lol

It may as well be, really now noone should be discussing this topic as if it's groundbreaking news unless they're the kind of idiot who comments in .hack videos on Youtube or something (meaning my standards for what those idiots talk about is VERY low). So really there's no excuse for to bring this topic up, like at all. And if it's on the wiki odds are everyone here knows it, or probably should. It's really old news, and annoying as hell among other things. So I will have to support Shugo_lover's exaggeration.

damn you to hell " the idiot here is you
we are here for gives our ides and point of thinking
so dont play smart clumsy freak idiot !

hope i'll not see you -_-'

Calm down, dude. You won't win any kind of discussion that way. You are probably just trying to be nice and start a conversation here, but these are old news. Why don't you try somithing more polemic next time such as asking a difficult-answering question:"In a battle between Haseo and Blackrose, who do you think that would win and why?". Anyway, it is good to review some facts and opinions.

[iuliathe3rd]

Versus Knight: Watch your attitude. Also, please do not spam and double post. It's easy enough to edit your previous post.

The rest of you: Cool it. Don't get too close to shadow modding the thread now.

[Versus Knight]

thx TheSorrow " even you Criticize you stay always cool " .. 2nd thing ; i know my subjects may they
were discussed before .. but you know ; i am new here after all and you can say it with "LOW" voice
and i am too one of the very old dot hack fans and i watched all its animations and play all its games
BUT the problem isn't YOU are Smart and I am Noob ! .. I can face any one of you and give him a lesson
about dot hack .. the problem that i face is the language .. i am not froncophone so dont expect too
smooth talk from me as you ..
3rd thing i am not say the subject of conversation is " haseo & skeith " its the relation between sora and skeith and haseo .. " the epitaphs hadn't go to any one .. but they chose thier hosts and Terror of Death
Skieth CHOSE haseo !

and the last thing " to who says OLD NEWS - OLD NEWS - OLD NEWS " you know well that .. you can not find DOT HACK news every day .. so to keep as connected we can makes a debates about old things some times .. if its not so CLOSE the .hack and .hack//G.U. forums and just leave the LINK forum cuz they are finished
and there are any news about theme

[AuraTwilight]

Welcome to the news of two years ago.

rude as always aura (-.-')
you have a problem with me or what ?!

Versus Knight, meet AuraTwilight, a God and/or Goddess doing what he does best...being AuraTwilight. I hope you have an awesome time together.
Also, i see you've met Gemcrim as well. He's a good guy

Now, let me tell you something about the forums and the members. This isn't your average little forum with lots of people spamming "OMG I agree ^_^" on every post and talking and discussing about whatever random happens...this is a forum with very smart members with lots of knowledge about .Hack and many other things, who don't tolerate n00bs going around posting stuff that's been known for a long time, or just overall pointless things, and won't hesitate in saying what they exactly think without being any "nice". I'm nicer and tolerate these kind of posts far more...but don't even think i'm actually nice or different than them; direct me to posts talking about how the Azure Knights are hard at lv130 or the Doppel weapons are the best and i will KILL those posts as well as the authors of them XD

Anyways, now that that's covered, this information (the relationship between Haseo and Skeith), as well as pretty much every other topic you've made, are all information that's very well known by EVERYONE in here, and so, it's considered as pretty much an "useless topic" for everyone. Gemcrim isn't playing smart or just wanting to offend you, he's saying the truth, and he's not the only one who'll say something like that (maybe not as direct or "hostile" as him, but same thing anyhow). You want discussions and debates, but about facts everyone knows, and about topics that has been heavily discussed and so nothing else can be said about them....even if they haven't been discussed before, they're pointless to talk about. It's like trying to debate about Haseo being The Terror of Death...alright, Haseo IS The Terror of Death, and we all know it. Discussion over, nothing else to be talked about. This is pretty much the way each one of your topics are...mentioning facts, facts being truth, discussion over even before it started.

All advice i can give to you is to give up with trying to make discussions about very well known facts, admit that everyone in here knows all you know about .Hack and far more...and just stay active and learn from the members and the forum themselves. And just don't try too hard and be a good member overall

tl;dr: Lurk moar.

Why can't I shove this entire post in my signature? It's perfect.

[Versus Knight]

Versus Knight, meet AuraTwilight, a God and/or Goddess doing what he does best...being AuraTwilight. I hope you have an awesome time together.

ok and " use this part *_*
just kidding xD

[TheSorrow]

Why can't I shove this entire post in my signature? It's perfect.

...I feel very honored.

i am new here after all and you can say it with "LOW" voice
and i am too one of the very old dot hack fans and i watched all its animations and play all its games
BUT the problem isn't YOU are Smart and I am Noob ! .. I can face any one of you and give him a lesson
about dot hack .. the problem that i face is the language .. i am not froncophone so dont expect too
smooth talk from me as you ..

I'm not saying you're ignorant about .Hack, and i can tell you have some knowledge, more than any other average n00b who still believes Tsukasa is played by a guy or is darn sure that AIDA are Data Bugs meant to destroy Phases. What i'm saying is...what you know is known by everyone else in here and for long before you knew, and trying to post that information will make you LOOK like a n00b, or at least someone thinking who knows alot when you really don't. Simply proven...if you really knew alot as you do, you'd understand why topics like this are useless, that's why this topic got the answers you read. You might know alot, but knowing doesn't mean just reading and viewing every .Hack material...is about fully understand the reason why everything that happens, happens that way, what caused it, and what it led to. And this is not just a language problem either...despite your eye-hurting posts, what you say is understandable, and if you had something important to say, or worth reading and be debated about, then people would reply "properly" and debate even with the bad english. But so far, people are replying as properly as they can, for what is an useless topic.

3rd thing i am not say the subject of conversation is " haseo & skeith " its the relation between sora and skeith and haseo .. " the epitaphs hadn't go to any one .. but they chose thier hosts and Terror of Death
Skieth CHOSE haseo !

Once again, we're in the same place...Sora obviously has a relation with Skeith and Haseo, and Skeith chose Haseo because of that obvious relation. What else is there to debate about this? NOTHING. I'm not saying there's nothing to be debated about Skeith, or Haseo, or Sora...you could go and debate what exactly happened to "Sora's mind" (as if, assimilated by Skeith, completely lost, became a wandering AI, etc), or you could ask questions about why Skeith chose Haseo exactly....not just state out the well-known facts and expect people to talk about it, as there only things that could be talked about would be repeating the same information, or say lies. To be simple, your topic idea was a complete failure.

and the last thing " to who says OLD NEWS - OLD NEWS - OLD NEWS " you know well that .. you can not find DOT HACK news every day .. so to keep as connected we can makes a debates about old things some times .. if its not so CLOSE the .hack and .hack//G.U. forums and just leave the LINK forum cuz they are finished

Wrong in every thing. First of all, it's always possible to find something new about .Hack...even the slighlest little detail in that little frame of that scene of the game that no one paid attention to before can be considered as a new information. Of course, not everyday you'll find one, but that doesn't mean you have to go and make topics about old information everyday either. If you want to keep in contact with old information, go read old posts and check the wikia for that information, maybe watch the anime too or something. And that DOESN'T mean that the SIGN, GU, and all other forums with "old information" should be closed. Debates are always welcomed, as long as they can lead to something worth discussing, and there will ALWAYS be members who have a doubt about something, something that wasn't clear for them, or something they just wanted to share, but that's relevant and not just obvious information from the most obvious source (.Hack wiki). A topic asking how Skeith identified Haseo as "Sora" isn't a bad idea. A topic to debate about if Skeith could've chosen someone else, or what he could've done if Haseo wasn't in R:2 might seem interesting. A topic to assure when and how did they say that Haseo was Sora isn't truly unwelcomed either (you'll only have to deal with AT's sarcasm, but that's normal). A topic, however, about a debate of the relationship between Haseo and Skeith (and Sora and whatever), when you've stated yourself why the relationship exists, is just pointless.

And one more thing...DON'T go and make new topics like the ones i mentioned, or just try your luck and make lots of new topics until one is "accepted", that's trying too hard and it'll all end up failing. I told you to lurk moar, and that means, to go read the forums, see what information is known, what kind of topics are around, and then make a good topic based on what it's been read, or simply don't post and keep reading; if what you want is debate, then read some already-active debates and understand how they're like and what you'd need to know to properly make topics like that or take part in those discussions. This is an awesome forum, with awesome members, and the best place to know everything you need to know about .Hack, and just have a fun time, you just had a very bad start.

[Versus Knight]

I'm not saying you're ignorant about .Hack, and i can tell you have some knowledge, more than any other average n00b who still believes Tsukasa is played by a guy or is darn sure that AIDA are Data Bugs meant to destroy Phases. What i'm saying is...what you know is known by everyone else in here and for long before you knew, and trying to post that information will make you LOOK like a n00b, or at least someone thinking who knows alot when you really don't. Simply proven...if you really knew alot as you do, you'd understand why topics like this are useless, that's why this topic got the answers you read. You might know alot, but knowing doesn't mean just reading and viewing every .Hack material...is about fully understand the reason why everything that happens, happens that way, what caused it, and what it led to. And this is not just a language problem either...despite your eye-hurting posts, what you say is understandable, and if you had something important to say, or worth reading and be debated about, then people would reply "properly" and debate even with the bad english. But so far, people are replying as properly as they can, for what is an useless topic.

i got ya " mochas gracias amigo : )

(you'll only have to deal with AT's sarcasm, but that's normal)

hhhh " i used to accept it already XD

you just had a very bad start.

it's okay .. i know how things goes on here and i will be one of you in the near future ^^