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Oh look, DBZ is a formulaic Shounen anime. And Bleach and Naruto are also *GASP* formulaic Shounen animes!

God forbid that shows of the same genre would have any similar concepts and plot devices.
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Haseo{Terror of Death} wrote:Spoilers, read at your own risk

I think Ichigo more resembles Gohan I mean Ichigo is half Soul Reaper and Half Human, even by birth since Isshin is a Capitan class Soul Reaper. And Um, You could say the First Season of DBZ and the Current Arc of Bleach are almost the same, The Arrancars (Who are technically Aliens if you want a direct definition) are trying to claim Kakura Town, for the King's Key or what ever, And In DBZ the Saiyans were trying to capture Earth to offer to Frieza, there is a similarity^^, Plus the fact that Bleach has some charaters in Ichigo's school, aside from Chad, Ishida, and Orihime.

If there are spoilers in there, I can't see them.

Almost the same? The way you have it compared shows that they have one similar situation. It also shows that there are different reasons, different people, different motivations different everything else except for the basic "Baddie wants to take over goody town/the palanet earth"

Different characters in school? WHAT THE HELL? So are you saying that every time that theres a show with school kids in it that there similar series?
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^_^; I meant they can can sense souls and crap, and
Haseo{Terror of Death} wrote:, The Arrancars (Who are technically Aliens if you want a direct definition) are trying to claim Kakura Town, for the King's Key or what ever
Could be considered a Spoiler^^
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All I have to say is that all anime is almost a copy.
I'm at the point know where I know each character is most likely a copy from another anime or manga, so i just deal with it.
But, i wish we could just get some more orginal characters nowdays...
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Anime Monkey wrote:Honestly, if you break down most anime plotlines, they're all essentially the same. No story is unique anymore. That's why it's so hard to find good anime these days.
I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
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Tri-edgeXHaseo fan wrote:All I have to say is that all anime is almost a copy.
I'm at the point know where I know each character is most likely a copy from another anime or manga, so i just deal with it.
But, i wish we could just get some more orginal characters nowdays...
Random character that wasnt supposed to have a love interest gains ultimate power and takes the main character to bed?

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Anime Monkey wrote:Honestly, if you break down most anime plotlines, they're all essentially the same. No story is unique anymore. That's why it's so hard to find good anime these days.
I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
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Erranty wrote:
Twilight Gaiden wrote:
Anime Monkey wrote:Honestly, if you break down most anime plotlines, they're all essentially the same. No story is unique anymore. That's why it's so hard to find good anime these days.
I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
World War II my good man. Guy wants to erase what he believes is the evil of this world, and loses because he himself was evil.
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Erranty wrote:
Twilight Gaiden wrote:
Anime Monkey wrote:Honestly, if you break down most anime plotlines, they're all essentially the same. No story is unique anymore. That's why it's so hard to find good anime these days.
I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
World War II my good man. Guy wants to erase what he believes is the evil of this world, and loses because he himself was evil.

Hitler is only evil if you consider him evil, but I do see your point.

BUUUUUUUT WWII was not an anime (to my knowledge at least). They share similarities but the point still stands (at least for me) that DeathNote is unique among ANIME. Maybe not history, but anything "possible" (I am not saying a magical notebook is possible, but things such as character development and whatnot) is comparable because history is so rich. There are very little things humans haven't experienced.
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Twilight Gaiden wrote:Hitler is only evil if you consider him evil, but I do see your point.
Actually I was basing that on his hatred of Jews, and the fact that he was one.
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Erranty wrote:
Twilight Gaiden wrote:Hitler is only evil if you consider him evil, but I do see your point.
Actually I was basing that on his hatred of Jews, and the fact that he was one.

I don't think that is proven but this discussion isn't meant for this topic.
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The word cliche should be eradicated from the English language. By this point in history all plots have been done many times. Everything is techinically cliche. So quit calling shows cliche! They all are!
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Twilight Gaiden wrote:I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
That would be good madam, thank you. :P

And since I haven't seen Death Note, I can't really say for myself if it's really as original as you say it is (although frankly I think it's overhyped to death). But from what little I have seen and heard, it's still about some self-righteous person and then the people hunting him down. In fact, you could probably break it down even further then that, I just don't know enough about it to do so.

But, as Kyero just said, pretty much every story is cliched now, anime or not. So you gotta look at the settings as original instead.
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Anime Monkey wrote:But, as Kyero just said, pretty much every story is cliched now, anime or not. So you gotta look at the settings as original instead.
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Death Note is the only Anime I've seen with little Cliche, Its plot mostly because what other anime has a note book that can kill people? No Energy Blasts or Ninja moves, a book with unlimited Pages that can Kill people.
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Kyero Fox wrote:Death Note is the only Anime I've seen with little Cliche, Its plot mostly because what other anime has a note book that can kill people? No Energy Blasts or Ninja moves, a book with unlimited Pages that can Kill people.
Higurashi is the only Anime I've seen with little Cliche, Its plot mostly because what other anime has parasites that make little Children kill people? No Energy Blasts or Ninja moves, Parasites that make people batshit insane.
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Anime Monkey wrote:
Twilight Gaiden wrote:I'm going to have to say this to your comment.

Death Note. Original. Inquisitive. Overall good. Not the same. I will fight you, my good sir!
That would be good madam, thank you. :P

And since I haven't seen Death Note, I can't really say for myself if it's really as original as you say it is (although frankly I think it's overhyped to death). But from what little I have seen and heard, it's still about some self-righteous person and then the people hunting him down. In fact, you could probably break it down even further then that, I just don't know enough about it to do so.

But, as Kyero just said, pretty much every story is cliched now, anime or not. So you gotta look at the settings as original instead.
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It's very good, in my opinion. Not quite worth all the hype but it is very good if you can get past the slow bridge in the middle (I consider it slow. It's like a valley before an explosion of "cool stuff" happening) and the fact that Light is an arrogant asshole that everyone is supposed to love.


On a side note, I found Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad to be alright. It wasn't THAT cliched or standard and the story was well told. I think the TC needs to say All Action anime is DBZ tweaked. Not all anime is.
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I'd point out that Death Note has the whole "power corrupts" cliche, so I'd hardly call it 100% original. That doesn't make Death Note any less great.

IMO quality of a show is not based on its originality, but how its executed. Great original premises can turn out to be utter crap. Some seemingly cliched ideas turn out to be good if done properly.

Take Magical Girl Lyrical Girl Nanoha for example. Just the title already reeks of magical girl cooties. But the series itself has earned a large male demograph, because it has moments of hardcore awesomeness that appeal to amles audiences more than femal audiences. Nanoha, a freaking Magical girl , is called "White Devil" by the fans because shes pretty hardcore.
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