something about ovan no one has thought of.

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something about ovan no one has thought of.

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Take a look at this pic if you will from the perfect guide.
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This image is from the perfect guide so its an official .hack image, now most people look at the "avatar aura" but I am more interested in his weapons, insted of bayonets it appears to be more like twin blades dosen it? It got me thinking well. ovan is classified as a Steam gunner correct, but isnt this more likely because we have only seen him with a steam gun? Haseo never gets him into his party so when you think about it we have never looked at his character status telling us what his class it. Its very possible that he is an adept rouge! If you think about the 4 point system that they run on STeam gunners take 3 and twin blade takes 1 so it would add up to 4, Also his lost weapon every one things its a gun but as you find out in the perfect guide its not the gun everyone see, the one he always holds is only "twilight" and not his lost weapon, then I started thinking about the other lost weapons them selves, Why would their be 2 weapons if the same class in the lost weapon group? Then it hit me, if he is in fact a adept rouge then he could have twin blades as his lost weapon insted of a gun! all togeather it fits almost too well if you ask me. The other thing I think of as proof is. Think about hsi avatar. a wile back there was a topic where I was asking "If his avatar wasent infected...then what would its weapon be?" you would think it would have some kind of gun right? but it dosent but it DOSE have two axes which would fit into my theroy of him being an adept rouge would it not? Also dont all adept rouge seem to have very...well different characters? I mean no one eles looks like haseo or ovan right? and...that other...one...I forget her name (it starts with an S) so that would further prove my theroy. Also the fact that you never really get proof that haseo had ovans member adress. (you can email in za worldo without one you know)

Either way what do you think? crazy theroy? or compleatly possible?

EDIT: think abotu somethign eles if you will. they coudl very well be his lost weaopon AIDA can serpass the system in a sense but think about Sakaki. it gave him an AIDA arm but it didnt give him an extra wapon did it? so if ovan is an adept rouge then maby it messed with his character data and has both his weapons out at one time. (more proof)
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It's a crazy theory, Ovan is classified officially as a Steam Gunner and the hatchet-like weapons in that scan are just a result of AIDA infection.
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Umbra wrote:It's a crazy theory, Ovan is classified officially as a Steam Gunner and the hatchet-like weapons in that scan are just a result of AIDA infection.
but someone like you shoudl know nothign is final in .hack I mean even haseo was only supposed to have 3 forms. coudlent ovan serpass the system as well?
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Zer0 wrote:I think Ratsu's on to something here. It was bugging me how Corbenik had a second form without Ovan being an adept rogue.
that also bugged me..think about it the first form of corbinick was twin blade and the second form was steam gun see what I mean :D

(glad someone thinks I am right)

EDIT: also why would the pic have two aexs? wouldent it just have his bayonet and the axe?
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Zer0 wrote:
Umbra wrote:It's a crazy theory, Ovan is classified officially as a Steam Gunner and the hatchet-like weapons in that scan are just a result of AIDA infection.
In .hack//ROOTS, he does use his gun as a physical weapon, blocking a blow from Bordeaux. Also, he does a combo on Haseo at the end of Volume 2 which involves twin blades.
thats another good point. (my girl friend says I am blooming loony -_-;;; )
she says the reason ovan is like that is ...well..because hes weird!!! -._-.;;;
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looks like your massive insomnia and research have paid off!

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Zer0 wrote:I think Ratsu's on to something here. It was bugging me how Corbenik had a second form without Ovan being an adept rogue.
zero, corbenik is infected with an aida system, means it can upgrade itself, or "change it's appearnace depends on how much infection the person has"
means he is not an adpat rouge, it's rather an idea development.
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The bayonet of a Steam Gun is designed to be used in close combat. Haseo surpasses the system so that's not a pheasible example, as what you're suggesting remains within the boundaries of the system.

As for his Tri-Edge attack, it involves an AIDA weapon and his bayonet. That's like saying Bordeaux is a Tribal Grappler because her AIDA attack involves hands.

Corbenik appears to have evolved purely in the sense that his AIDA infection grows more powerful. Even so you have to take into account that the original Corbenik also evolved.

I say it's bull until I get even more solid evidence than a silhouette.
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Zer0 wrote:I think Ratsu's on to something here. It was bugging me how Corbenik had a second form without Ovan being an adept rogue.
zero, corbenik is infected with an aida system, means it can upgrade itself, or "change it's appearnace depends on how much infection the person has"
means he is not an adpat rouge, it's rather an idea development.
now where did this come from? when has anyone eles done that? you cant really say thats true I mean there isent anything to back that up? I mean yea he changes but if my theroy was right it helps to comfirm why.

lukan thats what I hoped for.. all my insomnia,obssesion,and researth, as well as "thinking out side the box" have lead me to this. oh and this topic imakes me sound smart ;D...or crazy...ehh half and half.
Umbra wrote:The bayonet of a Steam Gun is designed to be used in close combat. Haseo surpasses the system so that's not a pheasible example, as what you're suggesting remains within the boundaries of the system.

As for his Tri-Edge attack, it involves an AIDA weapon and his bayonet. That's like saying Bordeaux is a Tribal Grappler because her AIDA attack involves hands.

Corbenik appears to have evolved purely in the sense that his AIDA infection grows more powerful. Even so you have to take into account that the original Corbenik also evolved.

I say it's bull until I get even more solid evidence than a silhouette.
well its true that his AIDA infection spreads and make his gun arm but think about it I mean as crazy as it sounds it dose sound like something CCcorp would do dosen it? besides why would the image have the two axes and not his bayonet and 1 axe hm? but what I am thinking about is his origenal avatar. how would it attack without AIDA? I mean it threw purple gems at you that it pulled from the AIDA infection and about all its attacks were based on AIDA exept for when he came up and slashed at you with both hands. It would also exsplain how his avatar attacked origenaly befour ti got infected. also his second form used its AIDA cannon now if the first form of corbinick used twing blades and the second form used steam gun dosent that also fit the path that adept roughs go in? (twin blade first because its only a 1 point class then steam gun because its 2)
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Ratsu wrote:
Dualreact wrote:
Zer0 wrote:I think Ratsu's on to something here. It was bugging me how Corbenik had a second form without Ovan being an adept rogue.
zero, corbenik is infected with an aida system, means it can upgrade itself, or "change it's appearnace depends on how much infection the person has"
means he is not an adpat rouge, it's rather an idea development.
now where did this come from? when has anyone eles done that? you cant really say thats true I mean there isent anything to back that up? I mean yea he changes but if my theroy was right it helps to comfirm why.

lukan thats what I hoped for.. all my insomnia,obssesion,and researth, as well as "thinking out side the box" have lead me to this. oh and this topic imakes me sound smart ;D...or crazy...ehh half and half.
well, ovan was the first one to get an aida infection.
we can't really know, i agree that my theory is baseless, but .hack is something with alot of baseless subjects.
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Zer0 wrote:What about the picture at the top? Where's he's using twin blades? (I'm assuming they are twin blades because they sure as hell don't look like guns.)
actually, i think that one is a fake? not sure about that tho.
he got an arm with a bayonet, another with a twin blade looking weapon, and a third arm.
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but .hack is something with alot of baseless subjects.
this, in itself, can also support Ratsu's theory though.
I'm still wondering about:
"if sakaki was nearly as infected enough to get an extra arm; where'd the WEAPON (axe/blade) come from?"

I'm with Ratsu on that: if he's an adept rouge, the AIDA could force his two weapons out at once.

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Zer0 wrote:What about the picture at the top? Where's he's using twin blades? (I'm assuming they are twin blades because they sure as hell don't look like guns.)
actually, i think that one is a fake? not sure about that tho.
he got an arm with a bayonet, another with a twin blade looking weapon, and a third arm.
the image isent fake? its from the GU perfect guide.
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Ratsu wrote:
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Zer0 wrote:What about the picture at the top? Where's he's using twin blades? (I'm assuming they are twin blades because they sure as hell don't look like guns.)
actually, i think that one is a fake? not sure about that tho.
he got an arm with a bayonet, another with a twin blade looking weapon, and a third arm.
the image isent fake? its from the GU perfect guide.
i said im not sure on that anyway.
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Well the thing about that "the AIDA infection got deeper" dosent work with others I mean Sakaki got infected and he fought haseo in vol 2 right then in Vol 3 he was sevearly infected but still hade just the one weapon. Now my big ovan thing is compiled from thinking about how AIDA effects other people. I mean you kinda have to think about the entire world to see where I am coneing at I think.

TT__TT I love this topic I finaly feel smart. with a hit of crazy...but I did take my crazy pills....plue I do tend to stay up 3days doing nothing but research >.>
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Ratsu, this is really cool. :D

I'm with you on it. It's perfectly possible.
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Heres somthing I bet no one eles dose..offers evidence against his own theroy.


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this image also surfaced with the guide book. and in it you see ovan has only one axe. I know it seems like the "its just an AIDA" thing seems true here but ovan didnt have his other axe pulled out when he formed did he? all he had was his bayonet and if hes in twinblade form (avatar wise) then it makse sense because he couldent have his bayonet out in that form....although I admit it dose sound a bit crazy. also another theryoy only this is more unlikely. Ovan surpassed the eyestem and became a new class just like haseo..a 1 twinblade :P
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Ratsu wrote:Heres somthing I bet no one eles dose..offers evidence against his own theroy.


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this image also surfaced with the guide book. and in it you see ovan has only one axe. I know it seems like the "its just an AIDA" thing seems true here but ovan didnt have his other axe pulled out when he formed did he? all he had was his bayonet and if hes in twinblade form (avatar wise) then it makse sense because he couldent have his bayonet out in that form....although I admit it dose sound a bit crazy. also another theryoy only this is more unlikely. Ovan surpassed the eyestem and became a new class just like haseo..a 1 twinblade :P
well,yeah, now you convinced me ;p
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Well I am not making this topic to be smart and I though I should post that befour someone eles dose and is all HA STUPID SEE THE IMAGE YOUR WRONG!. (alot of members on here are like that...although I want name names .-_.-;; ) but my point is that my theroy is possible. well...more alont plosable. Besides this isent the first time something seemed one way and then turned another in the world of .hack....like...the great deception for instance.

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Ahh ok well yoru theryo about the AIDA changing him for thai pourposed alsl works to my theroy. if ovan was a twin blade then the AIDA would change his avatar to have one weapon insted of 2 so that it could DO all the attacks that involved AIDA *like throwing the "AIDA shards" at haseo.
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im not sure which way i lean on this theory. it could be possible you do have alot of evidence.

now the question is... even though it has this odd picture of ovan with twin-bladesque swords what does the perfect guide say his class is?

also if he is an adept rouge with twin blades hes some sorta special to hold the blades outward like that instead of handle forward.
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