Skeith and Magus questions (spoilers)

Dark Knight Sparda · Post by **Dark Knight Sparda** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:36 am

first about Skeith,has skeith evolve unlike that the other epitaphs, he seems to be more Ai that the others because of that scean in vol3 were he looks like a white version of Haseos 3rd form and he seems to speek like Sora(or so they say) maybe Ryos(Haseo and soras player) memory live inside of Skeith.

Second about Magus, how did Tomonary(kuhns player) get him, in the terminal disc end of the world they sayd that magus was saved by Jun after the fire and was kept in cccorp, my guess is that they may have give in it to tomonary or that magus was a fake copy created by the propagation ability, does some body has some explanation for this stuff?

Mia The Renafan · Post by **Mia The Renafan** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:24 pm

The Epitaphs and their Epitaph Users are connected. Epitaphs register and record the emotions of their users, thus becoming more human with each passing use. Skeith just happens to be used wayy more often, thus he appears more human-like in emotion. You could call him the new 'Mia', or human-like AI main character in the series that connected with another player.

In the last series, the spotlight for the most part was on Macha/Mia/Maha. This time, the Terror of Death gets the spotlight, though Vol.1 does do justice to the memory of Mia, with not one, but two new forms (the AIDA Mia and the new Macha). I just hope Mia comes back.

As for your second question, that is currently unknown. Magus chose Kuhn, as did all the other Epitaphs/Avatars. They choose PCs that are connected with their respective titles. I think Magus was simply let back into the system in the hopes that the process would naturally work itself out. If we know anything about CC Corp, not even disaster can keep them from going after their goals.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:54 pm

Magus chose Kuhn due to,in part, his personality,and because he was also linked to the Dothackers quest,as he was one of the Coma victems,and they seem to have a quality that the Epitaph want in there users.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:43 pm

first about Skeith,has skeith evolve unlike that the other epitaphs, he seems to be more Ai that the others because of that scean in vol3 were he looks like a white version of Haseos 3rd form and he seems to speek like Sora(or so they say) maybe Ryos(Haseo and soras player) memory live inside of Skeith.

Firstly, the transformations have nothing to do with Skeith's AI. The Avatars are shaped on the Epitaph PC's, and since Haseo's PC has multiple forms, so does Skeith. As for Skeith speaking, I don't think he's more intelligent than the other Avatars. (Fidchell and Gorre speak, too, and there's of course Macha), I simply think that Skeith's the only one that decided to sit down and TALK to Haseo. All Eight Avatars are equally intelligent because they're all Children of Morganna.

Second about Magus, how did Tomonary(kuhns player) get him, in the terminal disc end of the world they sayd that magus was saved by Jun after the fire and was kept in cccorp, my guess is that they may have give in it to tomonary or that magus was a fake copy created by the propagation ability, does some body has some explanation for this stuff?

Well, he didn't receive it from CC Corp, since he wasn't aware he had it until the end of Roots. My theory is that CC Corp only recovered a copy of Magus, which the real Magus created as a red herring. They'd have their fake and think it's the real one, thus stopping their search for it. Meanwhile, Magus can find his Chosen One.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:38 pm

Seems logical.
Or it may have been created by accident...we don't know what the Epitaphs did once they were loose.
But didn't the Terminal disk say that they found the epitaph user who could use Magus in R:1,and that he was helping......wait,that would make part of roots non-canon.......so yeah,your right.

dominus_draconis · Post by **dominus_draconis** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:42 pm

not necessarily, I think it also says after waking up he did not remember the incident after the RA plan tanked

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:57 pm

Not sure what you mean,but I'm not familiar with that information if what I think your saying is is what you mean.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:23 pm

I think he's confusing Tomonari's original coma with the failure of the RA Plan. Kuhn was never involved in that.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:25 pm

Ah.
alright then,that explains it.
Comsidering the first Coma was before the RA plan,that would make quite the ammnesia story.

dominus_draconis · Post by **dominus_draconis** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:12 pm

yeah, sorry about that

Sol · Post by **Sol** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:52 pm

On the subject of Skeith speaking to Haseo as a white copy of himself, I figured this was just because the story was so focused on Haseo and what goes through his head. If one could peek into Ovan's head, Corbenik might appear as a red version of Ovan himself.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:58 pm

No, it only happened to Haseo, due to the very special circumstances surrounding that conversation.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:07 am

what happened to cause Skeith decide to talk to Haseo?

Ravaan · Post by **Ravaan** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:26 am

Skeith was going to leave Haseo. He told Haseo that since Haseo was no longer "The Terror of Death", there was no reason for him to stay with Haseo. Haseo convinces him to stay.

That was a horrible sentence... It came out wrong...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:18 pm

You left out several important details anyway.

Ovan used the Rebirth to reboot the internet, and Haseo was too close and got damaged. His PC was ripped up and his mind pushed to the brink, his PC on the edges of Za Warudo and his mind on the fringes of reality. Skeith talked to Haseo about several issues, the most important being about how Haseo had cleansed himself of his rage and had gotten rid of his Terror of Death status, and that he will leave Haseo now. Haseo then replied that he wouldn't leave anyone behind anymore, including Skeith, and that he'd return to reality with a new inner strength. He then wakes up in Net Slum with Xth Form.

Azure crow · Post by **Azure crow** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:20 pm

He dosn't really just wake up and find it's there though,as he conciously gets it and is aware of it happening,or so I've been led to beleive

Azura Balmung · Post by **Azura Balmung** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:33 am

AuraTwilight wrote:You left out several important details anyway.

Ovan used the Rebirth to reboot the internet, and Haseo was too close and got damaged. His PC was ripped up and his mind pushed to the brink, his PC on the edges of Za Warudo and his mind on the fringes of reality. Skeith talked to Haseo about several issues, the most important being about how Haseo had cleansed himself of his rage and had gotten rid of his Terror of Death status, and that he will leave Haseo now. Haseo then replied that he wouldn't leave anyone behind anymore, including Skeith, and that he'd return to reality with a new inner strength. He then wakes up in Net Slum with Xth Form.

wow this is cool i did not know this

The PKK · Post by **The PKK** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:53 pm

Azura Balmung wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:You left out several important details anyway.

Ovan used the Rebirth to reboot the internet, and Haseo was too close and got damaged. His PC was ripped up and his mind pushed to the brink, his PC on the edges of Za Warudo and his mind on the fringes of reality. Skeith talked to Haseo about several issues, the most important being about how Haseo had cleansed himself of his rage and had gotten rid of his Terror of Death status, and that he will leave Haseo now. Haseo then replied that he wouldn't leave anyone behind anymore, including Skeith, and that he'd return to reality with a new inner strength. He then wakes up in Net Slum with Xth Form.
wow this is cool i did not know this

niether did I

Skeith805 · Post by **Skeith805** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:08 pm

Neither did I. I watched the cutscene like twice because Ovan takes way too long to kill.

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:58 pm

Skeith805 wrote:Neither did I. I watched the cutscene like twice because Ovan takes way too long to kill.

took me a lot longer to kill him than it took me in the 2nd game

i only watched the scene once tho, i didnt save anywhere near that battle >_>