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I was not talking about bipolar, I'm bipolar, and my mom is VERY bipolar, that is a totally different disorder :P

bipolar is characterized by mood shifts between depressive and manic periods(my mother is more manic, I personally have a MUCH less severe case but also spend way more of the time depressed)
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dominus_draconis wrote:I was not talking about bipolar, I'm bipolar, and my mom is VERY bipolar, that is a totally different disorder :P

bipolar is characterized by mood shifts between depressive and manic periods(my mother is more manic, I personally have a MUCH less severe case but also spend way more of the time depressed)
Oh, sorry. I didn't understand your post. Could you explain what schzophrenia is? (Srry, I had trouble understanding what you said)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder
Bipolar disorder, once known as manic-depression, is a psychiatric diagnosis referring to a mental health condition defined by periods of extreme, often inappropriate, and sometimes unpredictable mood states.

Bipolar individuals generally experience mania, hypomania or mixed states alternating with clinical depression and euthymic or normal range of mood over varied periods of time. There are many variations of this disorder. A person with bipolar disorder generally tends to experience more extreme states of mood than other people. Moods can change quickly (many times a day) or last for months. Bipolar individuals tend to have very 'black and white' thinking, where everything in life is either a positive aspect or a negative. Mood patterns of this nature are associated with distress and disruption, and a relatively high risk of suicide. Bipolar disorder is also associated with a variety of cognitive deficits, in particular, difficulty in organizing and planning. The disorder may also skew the ability to judge others' emotion, and alter sense of awareness. paranoid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schitzophrenia
Schizophrenia (from the Greek word σχιζοφρένεια, or shjzofre'neja, meaning "split mind") is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental disorder characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality and by significant social or occupational dysfunction. A person experiencing schizophrenia is typically characterized as demonstrating disorganized thinking, and as experiencing delusions or hallucinations, in particular auditory hallucinations.

Although the disorder is primarily thought to affect cognition, it can also contribute to chronic problems with behavior and emotion. Due to the many possible combinations of symptoms, heated debate is ongoing about whether the diagnosis necessarily or adequately describes a disorder, or alternatively whether it might represent a number of disorders. For this reason, Eugen Bleuler deliberately called the disease "the schizophrenias" plural, when he coined the present name.

Diagnosis is based on the self-reported experiences of the patient, in combination with secondary signs observed by a psychiatrist, clinical psychologist or other clinician. No laboratory test for schizophrenia exists. Studies suggest that genetics, early environment, neurobiology and psychological and social processes are important contributory factors. Current psychiatric research into the development of the disorder often focuses on the role of neurobiology, although a reliable and identifiable organic cause has not been found. In the absence of a confirmed specific pathology underlying the diagnosis, some question the legitimacy of schizophrenia's status as a disease. Furthermore, some propose that the perceptions and feelings involved are meaningful and do not necessarily involve impairment.

The term schizophrenia translates roughly as "splitting of the mind", and comes from the Greek σχίζω (or schizo, "to split" or "to divide") and φρήν (or phrēn, "mind"). Despite its etymology, schizophrenia is not synonymous with dissociative identity disorder, also known as multiple personality disorder or "split personality"; in popular culture the two are often confused.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociati ... y_disorder
Dissociative identity disorder (DID) is a controversial diagnosis described in the DSM IV, as the existence in an individual of two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. At least two of these personalities are considered to routinely take control of the individual's behavior, and there is also some associated memory loss which is beyond normal forgetfulness. This memory loss is often referred to as losing time or amnesia. The symptoms must occur independently from substance abuse or a general medical condition in order to be diagnosed.

Studies among mental health professionals demonstrate widespread skepticism that this diagnosis represents an actual mental disorder instead of a culturally-based and therapist-caused delusion.

Dissociative identity disorder was initially named multiple personality disorder (MPD), and, as referenced above, that name remains in the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems. Regardless of whether the disorder is termed dissociative identity disorder or multiple personality disorder, it is in no way related to schizophrenia. Although schizophrenia and dissociative identity disorder are commonly linked in the minds of lay people, it is a misconception. "Split personality", which has been a term associated with schizophrenia, is not a professionally accepted term for dissociative identity.

While dissociation is a demonstrable psychiatric condition that is tied to several different disorders, specifically those involving early childhood trauma and anxiety, multiple personality remains controversial. Despite the controversy, some mental health institutes, such as McLean Hospital, have wards specifically designated for dissociative identity disorder.
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Ok, AuraTwilight, I'm not going to be an ass and fight with you like DarkChaos, but I remembered why I screwed myself up. My classmates were screaming out crap and it confused me. Sorry for starting a huge debate.

After you beat Vol. 3, does it switch off between the personalities when you use Sakubo? Or does the Saku part go away?

I feel so bad for Bo. Poor kid.
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Azure Knight wrote:Ok, AuraTwilight, I'm not going to be an ass and fight with you like DarkChaos, but I remembered why I screwed myself up. My classmates were screaming out crap and it confused me. Sorry for starting a huge debate.

After you beat Vol. 3, does it switch off between the personalities when you use Sakubo? Or does the Saku part go away?

I feel so bad for Bo. Poor kid.
Apparently, when it's revealed that Saku doesn't physically exist, she asks if Haseo wants her to vanish. If you say yes, she runs away and only Bo appears when you invite Sakubo.
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.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:
Azure Knight wrote:Ok, AuraTwilight, I'm not going to be an ass and fight with you like DarkChaos, but I remembered why I screwed myself up. My classmates were screaming out crap and it confused me. Sorry for starting a huge debate.

After you beat Vol. 3, does it switch off between the personalities when you use Sakubo? Or does the Saku part go away?

I feel so bad for Bo. Poor kid.
Apparently, when it's revealed that Saku doesn't physically exist, she asks if Haseo wants her to vanish. If you say yes, she runs away and only Bo appears when you invite Sakubo.
And if you say no?
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Azure Knight wrote:
.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:
Azure Knight wrote:Ok, AuraTwilight, I'm not going to be an ass and fight with you like DarkChaos, but I remembered why I screwed myself up. My classmates were screaming out crap and it confused me. Sorry for starting a huge debate.

After you beat Vol. 3, does it switch off between the personalities when you use Sakubo? Or does the Saku part go away?

I feel so bad for Bo. Poor kid.
Apparently, when it's revealed that Saku doesn't physically exist, she asks if Haseo wants her to vanish. If you say yes, she runs away and only Bo appears when you invite Sakubo.
And if you say no?
Well, obviously, you get them randomly again.
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Bulletcatcher wrote:
Azure Knight wrote:
.hack//BICTIOUS wrote:
Azure Knight wrote:Ok, AuraTwilight, I'm not going to be an ass and fight with you like DarkChaos, but I remembered why I screwed myself up. My classmates were screaming out crap and it confused me. Sorry for starting a huge debate.

After you beat Vol. 3, does it switch off between the personalities when you use Sakubo? Or does the Saku part go away?

I feel so bad for Bo. Poor kid.
Apparently, when it's revealed that Saku doesn't physically exist, she asks if Haseo wants her to vanish. If you say yes, she runs away and only Bo appears when you invite Sakubo.
And if you say no?
Well, obviously, you get them randomly again.
I know, but does it rotate every other time you use them? Like you use Sakubo, and it's Saku, then next time it's Bo? And also, if you do tell her to vanish, that means you can't get the Max Affection event with Saku, correct?
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It's completely random every time.
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AuraTwilight wrote:It's completely random every time.
Oh, aight then, but still -- one question for someone...!!! Do both characters have different affection balls-ish-rating-thingy??? Or it can go down, like Saku pretty mean and Bo pretty nice? Well? off topic question: CAN any affection ball thingy go down???
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I THINK that they have different affections. THINK being the operative word as I don't have the games yet. I know I've heard somewhere that they did, and it's only logical that they do anyway.
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Ravaan wrote:I THINK that they have different affections. THINK being the operative word as I don't have the games yet. I know I've heard somewhere that they did, and it's only logical that they do anyway.
Oh, okay then. TY...!!!
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THEY DO, since they're two different people and have two different affection scenes.
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AuraTwilight wrote:THEY DO, since they're two different people and have two different affection scenes.
Wewt. Kay, Thx.
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If Bo was Saku also, wouldn't Saku be suprised about... what's.... down there....?
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Azure Knight wrote:If Bo was Saku also, wouldn't Saku be suprised about... what's.... down there....?
Wow, what profound question.
She just ignores the fact.
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Pretty sure she doesn't exist outside of The World.
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Correct. She only takes control to log into Za Warudo, and it's not like many people look "down there" while playing an MMO.

Well, except for certain night elves in World of Warcraft. Ahem.
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AuraTwilight wrote:Correct. She only takes control to log into Za Warudo, and it's not like many people look "down there" while playing an MMO.

Well, except for certain night elves in World of Warcraft. Ahem.
LMFAO?! Anyways, Za Warudo is jap name, right? :D
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FlickerHaseo wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:Correct. She only takes control to log into Za Warudo, and it's not like many people look "down there" while playing an MMO.

Well, except for certain night elves in World of Warcraft. Ahem.
LMFAO?! Anyways, Za Warudo is jap name, right? :D
Yep. Japanese pronounciation of it as a title. It kinda shows a distinction between The World (Za Warudo) and "the world" (sekai).
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