Freedom of speech (B-B-B-B-Bullsh!t)

[Umbra]

Regardless of the Nazi symbol, Wander brings up valid points in regards to how high school districts restrict student's freedom of speech. I recall being forced to stand up when the pledge of allegiance was said every morning. I didn't mind it probably because I was still half a sleep and didn't want to hear **** from the teacher.

I for one always used my own words, something like "Hail Mother Russia..."

You poor people. XD We have no pledges or anything, though it is mandatory to have assemblies once a week for religious people to 'reflect', as my Head of Year calls it. In any case, I've never had to salute a flag or make an oath to the queen in school, and I've not had to pray or anything since I was eleven, and that was only because I was in a religious school.

Regardless, I think its dumb that your country tries to instill such national devotion in children. Then again, I'm angry at my Primary school for teaching me Christian ways in assemblies.

[T'Orlyn]

Well I think at this point it's been pretty much established that the swastika or a similar shape is generally, in cultures wold-wide, a positive symbol and that it only from Nazi Germany that the very negative connotations come from.
Regardless of your school, generally in the west, most people consider the swastika to be a negative symbol of racism, intollerance and horrific crimes against humanity, regardless of weither or not those ideas are what it truely represents in that situation.
At some point, I think you must be doing it for the attention it gets, because you have to know how that symbol is viewed by the general populous. You're asking for trouble, really, and it has very little to do with the school, in my opinion. It doesn't matter weither or not you're actually a neo-nazi, regardless, that is how you're going to be viewed.. and I think that has to be pretty obvious.

Another example would be the confederate flag, distorted and made a symbol of racism and intollerance in and of itself due primarily to the fact that it was the Northern historians who wrote the history books. Lol, and I can seriously elaborate on that if you don't believe me, I've been hearing rants on it from my father, a civil war historian, since before I can remember.
History is determined by who writes the books and Nazi Germany didn't win WWII which is why that symbol has such negative connotations. On the other hand, if the Nazi's hadn't used it then I'm sure it would be associated with the positive things that many cultures around the world have viewed it as, if it was even recognizable at all.


I'm personally, indescribably offended by racism... and even though my Grandmother, being Romanian, has a swaztika in her house as a sign of protection from evil, if I saw someone walking around with one, I would probably assume it didn't serve the same purpose as hers.

[marthwmaster]

Well I think at this point it's been pretty much established that the swastika or a similar shape is generally, in cultures wold-wide, a positive symbol and that it only from Nazi Germany that the very negative connotations come from.
Regardless of your school, generally in the west, most people consider the swastika to be a negative symbol of racism, intollerance and horrific crimes against humanity, regardless of weither or not those ideas are what it truely represents in that situation.
At some point, I think you must be doing it for the attention it gets, because you have to know how that symbol is viewed by the general populous. You're asking for trouble, really, and it has very little to do with the school, in my opinion. It doesn't matter weither or not you're actually a neo-nazi, regardless, that is how you're going to be viewed.. and I think that has to be pretty obvious.

Another example would be the confederate flag, distorted and made a symbol of racism and intollerance in and of itself due primarily to the fact that it was the Northern historians who wrote the history books. Lol, and I can seriously elaborate on that if you don't believe me, I've been hearing rants on it from my father, a civil war historian, since before I can remember.
History is determined by who writes the books and Nazi Germany didn't win WWII which is why that symbol has such negative connotations. On the other hand, if the Nazi's hadn't used it then I'm sure it would be associated with the positive things that many cultures around the world have viewed it as, if it was even recognizable at all.

You took the words out of my mouth.

[Osamu]

Well I think at this point it's been pretty much established that the swastika or a similar shape is generally, in cultures wold-wide, a positive symbol and that it only from Nazi Germany that the very negative connotations come from.
Regardless of your school, generally in the west, most people consider the swastika to be a negative symbol of racism, intollerance and horrific crimes against humanity, regardless of weither or not those ideas are what it truely represents in that situation.
At some point, I think you must be doing it for the attention it gets, because you have to know how that symbol is viewed by the general populous. You're asking for trouble, really, and it has very little to do with the school, in my opinion. It doesn't matter weither or not you're actually a neo-nazi, regardless, that is how you're going to be viewed.. and I think that has to be pretty obvious.

Another example would be the confederate flag, distorted and made a symbol of racism and intollerance in and of itself due primarily to the fact that it was the Northern historians who wrote the history books. Lol, and I can seriously elaborate on that if you don't believe me, I've been hearing rants on it from my father, a civil war historian, since before I can remember.
History is determined by who writes the books and Nazi Germany didn't win WWII which is why that symbol has such negative connotations. On the other hand, if the Nazi's hadn't used it then I'm sure it would be associated with the positive things that many cultures around the world have viewed it as, if it was even recognizable at all.


I'm personally, indescribably offended by racism... and even though my Grandmother, being Romanian, has a swaztika in her house as a sign of protection from evil, if I saw someone walking around with one, I would probably assume it didn't serve the same purpose as hers.

Yes.

Regardless of the Nazi symbol, Wander brings up valid points in regards to how high school districts restrict student's freedom of speech. I recall being forced to stand up when the pledge of allegiance was said every morning. I didn't mind it probably because I was still half a sleep and didn't want to hear **** from the teacher.

I for one always used my own words, something like "Hail Mother Russia..."

You poor people. XD We have no pledges or anything, though it is mandatory to have assemblies once a week for religious people to 'reflect', as my Head of Year calls it. In any case, I've never had to salute a flag or make an oath to the queen in school, and I've not had to pray or anything since I was eleven, and that was only because I was in a religious school.

Regardless, I think its dumb that your country tries to instill such national devotion in children. Then again, I'm angry at my Primary school for teaching me Christian ways in assemblies.

I got thrown out of the room in my 4th grade for saying:

I pledge allegiance..
To queen France,
and her united state of hysteria.

Dumbass teachers.

[Jimbob]

Regardless, I think its dumb that your country tries to instill such national devotion in children. Then again, I'm angry at my Primary school for teaching me Christian ways in assemblies.

Trust me nobody really cares about that past 3rd grade (when we realize it's stupid) Not a single person in any of my schools said it after that (though we did still stand and act like we did)

[haseoskeith]

I'm not so sure what we can and what we can't do here at my school. Sure we can swear as long it isn't in front of a teacher, or someone of higher status than you. Those are pure good manners.

About symbols like the swaztika, I'm not so sure what the rules are 'cause there are no reports about abuse in those terms so far.

Your freedom ends where others' begin. There are limits for everything. Indeed, your teacher didn't have to discriminate you for that, but you can't go around showing off the swaztika to everyone either, even if most know it's true meaning.

One thing they do here it school, that I don't agree so much about is to force the students to go Christian Celebrations and stuff. Many students don't believe in those things, and most of those show a complete lack of respect for those who believe. Last year there was a day called "The Founder's Day" in wich we went to church first then we travelled to the Founder's "resting place" to deliver a crown of flowers to show appreciation for what he had done for us. One our way to place the crown, there was a kid mocking us and yellling *Who died?!* in a tone that inspired nothing but a sense of disrespect. I just felt like reaching that @$$hole and punching him in the mouth, even if it was in front of the headmaster.

Anyways, if we don't show up for those celebrations, we get a +1 on the "missed classes" list.

As for pledges, none.

[STealthmaster]

Here's a good and heavily overlooked question. Why is it that in America that schools won't let students swear? Isn't the idea that swearing is wrong a christian-y belief? I think that we should be able to swear whenever and wherever we want.

Also, I got nagged by a teacher a few days ago for having a swaztika as the background for my desktop in class. The teacher ordered me to change it, which I would've happily said 'okay' to...until he followed it up by clearly stating that I am 'not allowed to have that symbol in school.' If I was a Neo-Nazi, shouldn't I be allowed to freely express my opinions? I looked all over the student manual, and it stated that I'm not allowed to have symbols or markings that represent or propogate sex, drugs, or violence.

Isn't what represents sex, drugs, and violence an opinion in some cases? Like when someone wears a shirt that has a giant condom on it, that's one thing...but telling someone that a swaztika represents violence is an opinion, is it not? After reading the manual clearly, I surmized that it IS allowed, and to tell me that I HAD to change it is against my civil rights, as in the same case of saying kids HAVE to stand for the Pledge.

What do you guys think?

i think you're just going through your anarchy stage. dont worry, you'll pass through it soon.

[Kiru]

Wait, what? O.O

Anyways, I pity you Umbra, I would have died, or been killed from pissing people off. So I guess Canada wins? All we do is stand and listen to the national anthom (Which we all talk anyways.)

: D

One thing they do here it school, that I don't agree so much about is to force the students to go Christian Celebrations and stuff. Many students don't believe in those things, and most of those show a complete lack of respect for those who believe. Last year there was a day called "The Founder's Day" in wich we went to church first then we travelled to the Founder's "resting place" to deliver a crown of flowers to show appreciation for what he had done for us. One our way to place the crown, there was a kid mocking us and yellling *Who died?!* in a tone that inspired nothing but a sense of disrespect. I just felt like reaching that @$$hole and punching him in the mouth, even if it was in front of the headmaster.

Incidently, I wouldn't of done that, bit I certainly would have not show respect, and possibly shown disrespect (Would be done accidently, but would have happend.) Forcing people to do that is disgusting.

[Rykar]

I highly think it's pointless to talk about freedom of speech excuse in America. Why? Here is why.
1. Because if we use the first amendment all the time, there will be endless flaming and endless hatred going on in the United States.
2. People use freedom of speech excuse as part of them to speak up for something they believe in. But when people speak up for something for themselves, they end up getting in trouble. Like for example. If you say "f*ck you" to a police officer, then you'd be arrested. Also if you give out your reason of saying that you told police officer to f*ck off because you believed in the freedom of speech, that's not really a good excuse of being freed from jail/juvie. Also, there are a lot of things. When a man with a gun shot the person he hated, he could also claim that he did it for the "freedom of rights and speech". That's why First Amendment is VERY risky to be used.
3. Honestly, Freedom of Speech isn't really a good excuse. Almost 80% of America doesn't allow freedom of speech. I am Korean, who is living in America, and I never had a chance of having a freedom of speech. If I had a freedom of speech, I had a lot to complain about. But there is no such thing as free for anyone else. It doesn't matter whether they are born in America or they are whites/blacks/Asians.
4. Wearing something very inappropriate in school such as revealing privacy parts, or even showing violent measures could threaten the school community. Why do you think there were couple of crimes in school killings such as Columbine? That's because the first amendment is responsible for the students to act wild and violent and later ending up as part of a murderer.
5. Columbine is a great example of why freedom of speech cannot be allowed. The incident is all about two students ending up killing his classmates and then themselves for them hating other kids. They also had the point of view of how they wanted to express their violent opinions. Even in the end, they killed the people that they hated for their "beliefs, rights, and speech" as an excuse.

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Now here is another reason WHY Swaztika is NOT ALLOWED in school.

1. In WWII, Holocaust is the main influence in Europe because of what Nazi and Hitler did to Jewish people.
2. If this was "Song of the Music" related, then it can be understood, but in Wander's point of view, I highly doubt he was a fan of Song of the Music. </sarcasm>
3. Also several religions forbid Swaztika in America because there are Jewish people and Christians that live in the country. If there are such thing as "Neo-Nazi"s , in MY OPINION. They should be arrested for their action reviving Nazi socialism. I am Christian, and I am highly against Nazi socialism.


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Pledge to American Flag is a problem. When there are several people refusing to pledge their allegiance to the flag and they get in trouble because they refused to do so.

I am one of them, who refused to pledge to the flag, not because of freedom of speech, but because I don't believe in American patriotism arrogant b*tchings and sugarcoating attitudes.

"I PLEDGE ALLIEGANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." - Well here is a question, why are we pledging to the cloth? Alliegance of what? Currently, we are living in a country where we are sending several soldiers to Iraq and getting themselves killed. How is that alliegance? What kind of reasoning is that for patriotism? Is Iraq even part of patriotism? It's not, because 1. It's not our country. 2. We are meddling into someone else's country area. 3. Saddam Hussein indeed did horrible things, but what's the point of having soldiers to be occupied in Iraq when he was already executed? -- The "Alliegance" these days isnt the same patriotism anymore as it used to be. The "patriotism" we are looking for now these days are probably going to the war and "serve" America to bring "glory and justice" as they say in the pledge.

"AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS", -- The republic we are seeing now, isn't republic. It's dictatorship.

"ONE NATION, UNDER GOD". -- There are other countries that are blessed by God himself. America isn't the ONLY one country that's blessed by the God. It's arrogance.

"IN THE VISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL" -- There IS NO JUSTICE, Freedom (Liberty) ? there is no freedom in anywhere. There will always be laws and rules. Without laws and rules, it will destroy the part of economy and the country's reputation itself. As for Justice, how is fighting Iraq part of justice? How is freedom of speech justice?

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Pledge of Alliegiance to America, we don't have to pledge NOT BECAUSE of freedom of speech, but it's your own belief and your own will of doing so. This had nothing to do with freedom of speech. People just make that quote from the First Amendment as an excuse to acknowledge from their actions.

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In my HONEST OPINION: I think Freedom of Speech aka the First Amendment sucks, period..

((Edit in note: I am sorry if I posted some huge rants like this, but this is my huge opinion about America, but also in freedom of speech. I know if this will provoke many people, but this is how I will believe in it until America fixes it's problem of their attitudes and arrogance.))

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However, it's right to support Char Aznable.

Seig Zeon!

[Umbra]

Trust me nobody really cares about that past 3rd grade (when we realize it's stupid) Not a single person in any of my schools said it after that (though we did still stand and act like we did)

Firstly, I did say they try, I never said it always succeeded. Secondly, a larger majority of the American people are fiercely patriotic when compared to most other countries, so it does appear that this nationalist conditioning does succeed for most people.

Besides, if you only pretend to speak, then other people must be speaking or the teachers would notice.

Anyways, I pity you Umbra, I would have died, or been killed from pissing people off. So I guess Canada wins? All we do is stand and listen to the national anthom (Which we all talk anyways.)

O.o I'm afraid I don't quite get why you pity me...

[Jimbob]

Besides, if you only pretend to speak, then other people must be speaking or the teachers would notice.

Actually the dead silence was quite noticeable.

[marthwmaster]

I remember our school doing the pledge every Monday for about five months after 9/11, but eventually that stopped, too. It doesn't particularly bother me that it stopped, but I don't think it's wrong for teachers to arrange patriotic assemblies. They should just make them optional after a certain age (when the angsty desire to be unpatriotic sets in), and available for those who want to participate in them, like the Christian assemblies that take place at certain schools.

[Vahn Staffear]

See what I don't understand is why people hate Hitler in our view he killed like hella jews because he thought they were not needed...white's do the same to blacks and america doesn't hate them.

See Hitler was actualy fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryran race after WWI the idiot americans scattered the germans and Hitler wanted to unite them.

This country is pitiful and there is no NO JUSTICE, and NO REPUBLIC as Rykar stated earlier.

[Dantei]

I'm not sure what you are trying to make a point of, Vahn Staffear.
"See Hitler was actually fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryan race after WWI. The idiot Americans scattered the Germans and Hitler wanted to unite them."
Who is to say that was a reasonable cause? Reason does not exist in murder.

About the Pledge, I think that if you don't want to say it, it shouldn't be forced. To force someone to do something may only cause them to become even more rebellious. I stopped reciting it in my fourth year of elementary school. I was never reproached for it, surprisingly.

[Umbra]

See what I don't understand is why people hate Hitler in our view he killed like hella jews because he thought they were not needed...white's do the same to blacks and america doesn't hate them.

See Hitler was actualy fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryran race after WWI the idiot americans scattered the germans and Hitler wanted to unite them.

This country is pitiful and there is no NO JUSTICE, and NO REPUBLIC as Rykar stated earlier.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen, seriously, you should have an award for it.

Firstly, America punishes people for killing other people, regardless of race, and the government doesn't commit genocide. The Nazi regime was disgusting, it's persecution of the Jewish people was horrible and can't be excused.

Hitler was a bleeding psychopath, he never had any 'reasonable cause' and there was no Aryan race to unite. He wanted to create an Aryan race that would control the world, invading countries to gain an empire and destroying all 'bad blood' within; that's Jews, homosexuals, vagabonds, gypsies, political enemies, black people, etc.

Mind you, judging by your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a Nazi, or at least a fascist.

[Rykar]

You know um. I think Vahn missed my point.

I said I didnt like Hitler because of how many people he murdered. Jewish are humans and people too. They were created by Gods, and they believe in God. It was wrong for what Hitler did just because of his own beliefs. It's wrong.

America punishes people indeed. But they aren't the ones who should judge others whether to kill people or not. They aren't the "GOD" country. They are just there equally like every other country. Other countries can talk trash about America like America talks trash about other countries.

It's human thing. We were born to hate, discriminate and accuse things.

[Vahn Staffear]

You know um. I think Vahn missed my point.

I said I didnt like Hitler because of how many people he murdered. Jewish are humans and people too. They were created by Gods, and they believe in God. It was wrong for what Hitler did just because of his own beliefs. It's wrong.

America punishes people indeed. But they aren't the ones who should judge others whether to kill people or not. They aren't the "GOD" country. They are just there equally like every other country. Other countries can talk trash about America like America talks trash about other countries.

It's human thing. We were born to hate, discriminate and accuse things.

That crap I said about Hitler was just random stuff I started spitting out.^^ I wasn't talking to only you Rykar I was just speaking for everyone.

[Vahn Staffear]

See what I don't understand is why people hate Hitler in our view he killed like hella jews because he thought they were not needed...white's do the same to blacks and america doesn't hate them.

See Hitler was actualy fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryran race after WWI the idiot americans scattered the germans and Hitler wanted to unite them.

This country is pitiful and there is no NO JUSTICE, and NO REPUBLIC as Rykar stated earlier.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen, seriously, you should have an award for it.

Firstly, America punishes people for killing other people, regardless of race, and the government doesn't commit genocide. The Nazi regime was disgusting, it's persecution of the Jewish people was horrible and can't be excused.

Hitler was a bleeding psychopath, he never had any 'reasonable cause' and there was no Aryan race to unite. He wanted to create an Aryan race that would control the world, invading countries to gain an empire and destroying all 'bad blood' within; that's Jews, homosexuals, vagabonds, gypsies, political enemies, black people, etc.

Mind you, judging by your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a Nazi, or at least a fascist.

Heh...Heh...Honestly I'm going to pretend I didn't read such bull crap across my computer screen. And if I were a Nazi or Fascist what were you gonna do about it...eh?

Hitler being a bleeding psychopath is America's **** up way of thinking. In germany's case Hitler was a great man...in America's case he was a Bleeding Psychopath because he killed a few jews. Your probaly agreeing with these people because your probaly in Europe somewere reading their school text books about WWII.Hitler was a man who fought in WWI for his country same as these pitiful americans fighting pintless wars for their stupid Independance, he looked at his country fall before him entering their version of a Great Depression. He was so desprate to lead his people and set them back on the path of success he tried to overthrough their Gov't by force which he was placed in prison for 9 month's. Soon after he was released he created the Nazi's and tried to get into Gov't the political way and failed. When the depression hit he was placed into office by Alfred Hugenberg as Chancellor. Months later he suspended te 48th article of the consittion thus he became ruler over Germany.

Anyhow If you look at one of the long term effects of WWII it clearly says the Divison of Germany which mean's after WWI the winning county (America) greated a new Germany Dividing Asturia-Hungary in to seperate nation's as well as creating new nation's out of the left over land of Asutria hungry thus dividing Germany in to many spots through out Europe. Which explains my point on why he would want to unite his people and make germany self sufficent.

[marthwmaster]

See what I don't understand is why people hate Hitler in our view he killed like hella jews because he thought they were not needed...white's do the same to blacks and america doesn't hate them.

See Hitler was actualy fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryran race after WWI the idiot americans scattered the germans and Hitler wanted to unite them.

This country is pitiful and there is no NO JUSTICE, and NO REPUBLIC as Rykar stated earlier.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen, seriously, you should have an award for it.

Firstly, America punishes people for killing other people, regardless of race, and the government doesn't commit genocide. The Nazi regime was disgusting, it's persecution of the Jewish people was horrible and can't be excused.

Hitler was a bleeding psychopath, he never had any 'reasonable cause' and there was no Aryan race to unite. He wanted to create an Aryan race that would control the world, invading countries to gain an empire and destroying all 'bad blood' within; that's Jews, homosexuals, vagabonds, gypsies, political enemies, black people, etc.

Mind you, judging by your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a Nazi, or at least a fascist.

Heh...Heh...Honestly I'm going to pretend I didn't read such bull crap across my computer screen. And if I were a Nazi or Fascist what were you gonna do about it...eh?

Hitler being a bleeding psychopath is America's **** up way of thinking. In germany's case Hitler was a great man...in America's case he was a Bleeding Psychopath because he killed a few jews. Your probaly agreeing with these people because your probaly in Europe somewere reading their school text books about WWII.Hitler was a man who fought in WWI for his country same as these pitiful americans fighting pintless wars for their stupid Independance, he looked at his country fall before him entering their version of a Great Depression. He was so desprate to lead his people and set them back on the path of success he tried to overthrough their Gov't by force which he was placed in prison for 9 month's. Soon after he was released he created the Nazi's and tried to get into Gov't the political way and failed. When the depression hit he was placed into office by Alfred Hugenberg as Chancellor. Months later he suspended te 48th article of the consittion thus he became ruler over Germany.

Anyhow If you look at one of the long term effects of WWII it clearly says the Divison of Germany which mean's after WWI the winning county (America) greated a new Germany Dividing Asturia-Hungary in to seperate nation's as well as creating new nation's out of the left over land of Asutria hungry thus dividing Germany in to many spots through out Europe. Which explains my point on why he would want to unite his people and make germany self sufficent.

But that doesn't excuse Hitler's homicidal hatred of Jews, and how he hid behind the pretense of wanting to unite Germany. You can believe the Jews are destroying your country, but you don't just go out and exterminate an entire race of people in order to form a united country. If that's not bleedingly psychopathic, I don't know what is.

[Vahn Staffear]

See what I don't understand is why people hate Hitler in our view he killed like hella jews because he thought they were not needed...white's do the same to blacks and america doesn't hate them.

See Hitler was actualy fighting for a reasonable cause, he wanted to unite the Aryran race after WWI the idiot americans scattered the germans and Hitler wanted to unite them.

This country is pitiful and there is no NO JUSTICE, and NO REPUBLIC as Rykar stated earlier.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen, seriously, you should have an award for it.

Firstly, America punishes people for killing other people, regardless of race, and the government doesn't commit genocide. The Nazi regime was disgusting, it's persecution of the Jewish people was horrible and can't be excused.

Hitler was a bleeding psychopath, he never had any 'reasonable cause' and there was no Aryan race to unite. He wanted to create an Aryan race that would control the world, invading countries to gain an empire and destroying all 'bad blood' within; that's Jews, homosexuals, vagabonds, gypsies, political enemies, black people, etc.

Mind you, judging by your attitude, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a Nazi, or at least a fascist.

Heh...Heh...Honestly I'm going to pretend I didn't read such bull crap across my computer screen. And if I were a Nazi or Fascist what were you gonna do about it...eh?

Hitler being a bleeding psychopath is America's **** up way of thinking. In germany's case Hitler was a great man...in America's case he was a Bleeding Psychopath because he killed a few jews. Your probaly agreeing with these people because your probaly in Europe somewere reading their school text books about WWII.Hitler was a man who fought in WWI for his country same as these pitiful americans fighting pintless wars for their stupid Independance, he looked at his country fall before him entering their version of a Great Depression. He was so desprate to lead his people and set them back on the path of success he tried to overthrough their Gov't by force which he was placed in prison for 9 month's. Soon after he was released he created the Nazi's and tried to get into Gov't the political way and failed. When the depression hit he was placed into office by Alfred Hugenberg as Chancellor. Months later he suspended te 48th article of the consittion thus he became ruler over Germany.

Anyhow If you look at one of the long term effects of WWII it clearly says the Divison of Germany which mean's after WWI the winning county (America) greated a new Germany Dividing Asturia-Hungary in to seperate nation's as well as creating new nation's out of the left over land of Asutria hungry thus dividing Germany in to many spots through out Europe. Which explains my point on why he would want to unite his people and make germany self sufficent.

But that doesn't excuse Hitler's homicidal hatred of Jews, and how he hid behind the pretense of wanting to unite Germany. You don't just go out and exterminate an entire race of people to unite a country. If that's not bleedingly psychopathic, I don't know what is.

Their is no simpler way to explain his hatred for jew's he just doesn't like them he felt as though they should live in this world...or that with them living in our world it would be tainted.