I'm highly suspicious of TSN..

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I have my own theory on Azure Kite I think they used the shattered braclet and copied the damaged data from that because people keep on saying that A Kite's braclet looks damaged
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Word maybe the bracelet kite and blackrose destroyed were fused with cubia and extra data to create the AK. No thats crazy sorry.
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Skeith of the Dawn wrote:Word maybe the bracelet kite and blackrose destroyed were fused with cubia and extra data to create the AK. No thats crazy sorry.
That is a possible theory that explains AK, but not AB and AO.
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Actually if the Legend of the Twilight is cannon then when AK data drained Bulmung (and from the convo Orca aswell) then their data could have been used to create AB and AO. In fact whatever they turn out to be I assume thats how AO and AB were created, from the data that AK collected from the real ones.

And as Bulmung says when he see thats version of KIte "Your not KITE!"
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Actually if the Legend of the Twilight is cannon then when AK data drained Bulmung (and from the convo Orca aswell) then their data could have been used to create AB and AO. In fact whatever they turn out to be I assume thats how AO and AB were created, from the data that AK collected from the real ones.

And as Bulmung says when he see thats version of KIte "Your not KITE!"
hmm, this makes me think of how we get the 'genome' data from the other epitaphs wen we data drain them..........
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luke1213 wrote:ok maybe im retarded but what makes you think Azure Kite put that player in to a coma i think he just delete's the hacked part of them like Haseo got zaped by Herald and he got his job advancement so Haseo
was not normal that is why he got DD by A-Kite and he did not go in to a coma so all Azure kite does is reset your PC thats all no coma but i may be wrong[/b]
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I still can't belive some people from R:1 cant remember who balmung is even if he looks diffrent
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About AK:
Was there really a proof that anyone he DDt fall in a coma?
As we know from .hack//roots, Shino was  killed by Ovan, so there would be a chance that the other players that met AK aren´t in a coma anyway.

Oh, and sorry for beeing stupid, but what is "TSN" again.... ^^
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that's weird i logged in but it didnt' register again, oh well this time for sure Very Happy
hm..I think its..Tri Survillence Network...or something like that. its a system to protect The World or Internet from "virus" :D
i ..think :p

i was just curious since he was so much stronger and i think there's a higher level requirement to become his 3rd form (the one with black armor). then that explains why that guy fell into a coma and haseo didn't.

level doesn't mean anything....

or it could be that the kite at the beginning was an aida under ovan's control (explains why ovan knew when he was appearing) and the real kite that ovan fought in roots wasn't fully recovered and recovered in vol.2 to create a illusion of kite being regenerated after he lost to haseo but that aida kite was actually fully destroyed

thinking this one seriously......it does make sense..a little....
but, i don't think Ovan could make AK. well, the only phase that could do it..its just Innis right?
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Anonymous wrote:this was what i thought

the kite that we all defeat in vol.1 was only a copy (like the AO and AB in vol.2) since if you think about it this way, how does haseo beat "kite" when he was lower in level compared to the beginning of the game?

i was just curious since he was so much stronger and i think there's a higher level requirement to become his 3rd form (the one with black armor). then that explains why that guy fell into a coma and haseo didn't.

when haseo fought kite at the cathedral it was actually the real him so that's why he didn't fall in a coma. then again, it could be that he's an epitaph user

or it could be that the kite at the beginning was an aida under ovan's control (explains why ovan knew when he was appearing) and the real kite that ovan fought in roots wasn't fully recovered and recovered in vol.2 to create a illusion of kite being regenerated after he lost to haseo but that aida kite was actually fully destroyed

i don't know this is all a speculation....
Possible... not probable.
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I think the first AK in Vol. 1 was infectet with AIDA from Ovan.
Could that be possible? Or am I wronger than wrong?
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Kiru wrote:-Kites Player data, so the bracelet also.. Is protected.
Yes but creating another bracelet obviously wasn't a problem since all the Avatars have one.
Kiru wrote:-We saw a scene where Azure Kite put a player in a coma, I didn't get this, even if he was cheating, hey AK, wanna come GM WoW? :P
He either was in a place where Ovan may have been and he spotted a cheater and booted him from the game
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Obviously since they are created by the Greatest AI engineer ever! Amagi was a genius at this stuff. He really made some good stuff here! Also its running in the game harald created in order to give birth to an AI Child, so the TSN System must be as advanced if not more so.
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Domino wrote:I think the first AK in Vol. 1 was infectet with AIDA from Ovan.
Could that be possible? Or am I wronger than wrong?
Wronger than Wrong, Tri Edge was never an AIDA to begin with.
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I know that Tri Edge never was AIDA and AK isn't Tri Edge. I mean that thing waht happends to him in Roots by Ovan. .... All of you must think I'm silly right? ... :(
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Domino wrote:I know that Tri Edge never was AIDA and AK isn't Tri Edge. I mean that thing waht happends to him in Roots by Ovan. .... All of you must think I'm silly right? ... :(
Describe the scene, because a lot of things happen to Azure Kite because of Ovan. >_>
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Tsugasa-kun wrote:He either was in a place where Ovan may have been and he spotted a cheater and booted him from the game
Didnt Yata say that the player was booted straight to the vegetable farm? I dont buy this whole TSN deal either. Thats not a "delete stick" AK wacked that guy with... that was a full blown "coma-ray". Although I guess it would certainly get rid of the cheaters.

It may be possible that the Tri-system has gone vagant, in which case its not really CC's TSN anymore... I wouldnt be surprised if it might be one of Amagi's crazy stunts though...



TSN is described as "Three different AIs set inside the company network to monitor it. It is designed to prevent information leaks, improper network usage, and company-wide system problems." in GU vol. 1.
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I have my own theory on Azure Kite I think they used the shattered braclet and copied the damaged data from that because people keep on saying that A Kite's braclet looks damaged
Azure Flame Kite's Bracelet wasn't broken in Roots. Your theory fails.
Word maybe the bracelet kite and blackrose destroyed were fused with cubia and extra data to create the AK. No thats crazy sorry.
That's just stupid. The Bracelet was (1) and Cubia was (-1). Bringing them together destroys them both.
Actually if the Legend of the Twilight is cannon then when AK data drained Bulmung (and from the convo Orca aswell) then their data could have been used to create AB and AO. In fact whatever they turn out to be I assume thats how AO and AB were created, from the data that AK collected from the real ones.

And as Bulmung says when he see thats version of KIte "Your not KITE!"
It's not canon.
hmm, this makes me think of how we get the 'genome' data from the other epitaphs wen we data drain them..........
any ideas?
Um...you Data Drain them and get the Genome data? I didn't think it was a complex issue.
the kite that we all defeat in vol.1 was only a copy (like the AO and AB in vol.2) since if you think about it this way, how does haseo beat "kite" when he was lower in level compared to the beginning of the game?

i was just curious since he was so much stronger and i think there's a higher level requirement to become his 3rd form (the one with black
armor). then that explains why that guy fell into a coma and haseo didn't.

when haseo fought kite at the cathedral it was actually the real him so that's why he didn't fall in a coma. then again, it could be that he's an epitaph user

or it could be that the kite at the beginning was an aida under ovan's control (explains why ovan knew when he was appearing) and the real kite that ovan fought in roots wasn't fully recovered and recovered in vol.2 to create a illusion of kite being regenerated after he lost to haseo but that aida kite was actually fully destroyed
1. There's only one Azure Flame Kite, but he regenerates. Azure Flame Kite is weaker because he let his guard down.

2. That guy didn't go into a coma. Yata was probably lying.

3. He's not an AIDA, since he doesn't generate black spots. Jesus, have you played the games at all? Or atleast Youtubed videos?
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thinking this one seriously......it does make sense..a little....
but, i don't think Ovan could make AK. well, the only phase that could do it..its just Innis right?
Innis could only make crappy illusions, like the ghostly Orca and Balmung. You couldn't hurt them and they couldn't hurt you. Ovan is probably the only Epitaph User who can make data from scratch.
Obviously since they are created by the Greatest AI engineer ever! Amagi was a genius at this stuff. He really made some good stuff here! Also its running in the game harald created in order to give birth to an AI Child, so the TSN System must be as advanced if not more so.
Amagi didn't make TSN.
I know that Tri Edge never was AIDA and AK isn't Tri Edge. I mean that thing waht happends to him in Roots by Ovan. .... All of you must think I'm silly right? ...
That was Ovan PKing Azure Kite like he did to Shino, except since he's an AI, it started to delete him instead of comatize him.
Didnt Yata say that the player was booted straight to the vegetable farm? I dont buy this whole TSN deal either. Thats not a "delete stick" AK wacked that guy with... that was a full blown "coma-ray". Although I guess it would certainly get rid of the cheaters.

It may be possible that the Tri-system has gone vagant, in which case its not really CC's TSN anymore... I wouldnt be surprised if it might be one of Amagi's crazy stunts though...



TSN is described as "Three different AIs set inside the company network to monitor it. It is designed to prevent information leaks, improper network usage, and company-wide system problems." in GU vol. 1.
Seeing as Yata is known to lie, cheat, hack the game, forge data, manipulate others, and put innocent players in danger for his own ends, I won't trust a damn thing he says until I see the Data Drained player for myself. He could've forged the video.
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AuraTwilight wrote:
I have my own theory on Azure Kite I think they used the shattered braclet and copied the damaged data from that because people keep on saying that A Kite's braclet looks damaged
Azure Flame Kite's Bracelet wasn't broken in Roots. Your theory fails.
I was talking about the original braclet Kite had the one he lost in the fight with Cubia
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AuraTwilight wrote:
I have my own theory on Azure Kite I think they used the shattered braclet and copied the damaged data from that because people keep on saying that A Kite's braclet looks damaged
Azure Flame Kite's Bracelet wasn't broken in Roots. Your theory fails.
A lot was different in ROOTS than it was in G.U., have you forgot?
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Yes but most of it have the same mind... no thats the wrong word...
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JamesBeardIV wrote:Didnt Yata say that the player was booted straight to the vegetable farm? I dont buy this whole TSN deal either. Thats not a "delete stick" AK wacked that guy with... that was a full blown "coma-ray".
AK's data drain doesn't cause coma's. Note how Haseo was notably not comatose after being drained. That wasn't luck that was hint number one that   Kite wasn't the cause of the comas.
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Tadashi wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:
I have my own theory on Azure Kite I think they used the shattered braclet and copied the damaged data from that because people keep on saying that A Kite's braclet looks damaged
Azure Flame Kite's Bracelet wasn't broken in Roots. Your theory fails.
A lot was different in ROOTS than it was in G.U., have you forgot?
If you're trying to say that ROOTS isn't canon, then you're wrong >.> Just because some things were different doesn't mean everything was dramatically changed. Yes, fight sequences may have been changed at the artist's descretion.. But Plot points remains the same... I.E. The Development and partial descruction of Azure Kite's bracelet.
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