Tsukasa and Subaru's relationship.

Silvermane · Post by **Silvermane** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:18 pm

When I was observing other boards about this aspect of Sign some reacted quite negatively..ex) ewww they are lesbians or some such childish response or others tried to stay neutral and not even comment. Here's what I think:

Who cares about what the genders of these individuals are, personally I think they are wonderful together. She's part of the reason he logs out in the first place. It was her caring heart and compassion that gave Tsukasa the need and desire to log out. On a deeper level I think they are soulmates. Thats my 2 cents. What does everyone else think?

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:11 am

I think it's really cool, actually. I have no problem with homosexual relationships.

In //SIGN, though, they don't really explain Subaru's real feelings toward Tsukasa. Most people, like me, assumed that Tsukasa was male and that Subaru liked him. But later you find out that isn't true. Then Subaru says it doesn't matter, and that she still wants to see Tsukasa (outside of The World). At first I wasn't sure how to take that. I assumed she was just being friendly or something. But, from what I've heard, their relationship goes a bit further in .hack//ZERO which is a novel (another reason BanDai has to release them!).

Mia · Post by **Mia** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:21 am

I for one,am against any lesbians,or gay related things.But..you also have to see it from the Japanese point of view.As you notice,there have been other animes out there,to where characters seem "too close" to other characters,makin other people"Eww!! That's just sick!!".
The japanese see it differently,and they tend to keep it on a friendly level..unless otherwise stated by the characters own intentions or true feelings;then its different.
I think its alright for Tsukasa and Subaru to remain as friends,maybe close best friends/sisters if they would like to see it like that.

OrangeSlice · Post by **OrangeSlice** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:23 am

actually most japanese are very strongly against that sort of thing. and they actually all get together outside of the game, I think Tsukasa Subaru Bear and Mimiru, I cant remember if anyone else though. I could, of course, say more, but I dont feel like make a long post with lots of spoiler tags.

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:13 pm

OrangeSlice, is that in one of the novels?

OrangeSlice · Post by **OrangeSlice** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:17 pm

yes its in .hack//ZERO

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:52 pm

That book sounds really cool.

I think that we should have been able to see Mimiru in real life in the last episode of //SIGN, but oh well. I wonder if Tsukasa took up Bear's offer. I certainly wouldn't want to live with her dad. From what we see of him, he's a moron

Silvermane · Post by **Silvermane** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:09 pm

I'll have to agree with you there Ardo, Having a abusive parent sucks big time. Bear will make a much improved adoptive parent. I think tsukasa is in college because of the Unision pre-view or at least living someplace better.

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:16 pm

Yep. And Bear could do a better job this time around, even though Tsukasa isn't technically his daughter

Silvermane · Post by **Silvermane** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:18 pm

I like Bear alot, he reminds me of my dad in many ways.

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:38 pm

That's cool. No one I know acts like him.

Silvermane · Post by **Silvermane** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:59 pm

Indeed, the only difference between Bear and my Dad is their occupation.

beginner · Post by **beginner** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:01 pm

Actually. There is a part where you do see mimiru in real life. I forgot which part though.

Iron Grunty · Post by **Iron Grunty** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 8:31 am

That didn't help me out much Clang!...But I might take your word for it Clang! oh...and I havent posted in here yet Clang!?...Hmm...I think its a good idea...love doesent matter on gender...Clang!

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:15 pm

beginner wrote:Actually. There is a part where you do see mimiru in real life. I forgot which part though.

In Integration or Intermezzo (I am not sure about the name, but episode 27 that revovles around Mimiru)?

Mia · Post by **Mia** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 6:32 pm

Intermezzo is episode 27.
Integration is episode 28.

Episode 27 deals with Mimiru's past,when she was a newbie to The World.

Silvermane · Post by **Silvermane** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 6:35 pm

Or was it called Unision?? I think Integration is the name of the DVD combo with 28th ep of Sign and all of OVA's...with something about Dusk put in also.

But to get back on topic, I think Unision will reveal more about Tsukasa and Subaru's relationship or how much its progressed. I really want to know how they feel about each other.

OrangeSlice · Post by **OrangeSlice** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 7:18 pm

Integration is the package name, it comes with Unison, all 4 Liminality episodes, and the .hack//Udeden Character Song & Story for ¥2800

as for Unison it will be featuring characters from both sign and the games, so I doubt it will go further into tsukasa & subaru's relationship.

Ardo · Post by **Ardo** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:14 pm

D'oh! That's right. Unison is episode 28, not Integration.

As long as we get whatever it is that "progresses" their relationship, I'm happy.

Post by **d5t** » Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:21 pm

Ardo wrote:D'oh! That's right. Unison is episode 28, not Integration.

As long as we get whatever it is that "progresses" their relationship, I'm happy.

Technically its not even a part of the .hack//sign series. Its just an OVA.