last betrayal!!?!?!?

Skeith9999 · Post by **Skeith9999** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:59 pm

where do i find it? i know sora has it, and i want it----

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:12 am

Cheat... there's no normal way to get this weapon. Last Betrayal is special to him as Pure Heart (or whatever Subaru has) and Ludicrous is to Tsukasa. There's no way to make them give up their weapons.

Skeith9999 · Post by **Skeith9999** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:28 am

hee, hee, hee. i already gave my guys 9999 stats in vol 4, so i guess i can cheat some more. =^-^=

epitaph_wavemaster · Post by **epitaph_wavemaster** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:52 am

Xu Yuan wrote:Pure Heart (or whatever Subaru has).

Fate Encounter. Right?

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:19 am

Yeah, yeah that's it, couldn't remember it off the top of my head, though the stats on their weapons are incredible. Much better then anything you can legally get.

epitaph_wavemaster · Post by **epitaph_wavemaster** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:21 am

I heard that there is a dungeon you can get the last betrayal in. I'm not sure if it's true or not though. I haven't checked... I look it up again.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:53 pm

epitaph_wavemaster wrote:I heard that there is a dungeon you can get the last betrayal in. I'm not sure if it's true or not though. I haven't checked... I look it up again.

There is no way to get the Last Betrayal.

There's also no way to get the (everyone's starting weapon) Fate Encounter, 8 Wise Men, Ludicrous, Nautillus Wand, Flaming Wand, Expert Wand, Kai, Grizzly, Steelblade (Heavy one), Zero Katana, Amazon Spear, Eternal Victor, Meteor Axe, White Axe, Ends of Earth, 8 Phase Sword, Houraiken, Guillotine, and Heavenly Sword without cheating. Not that it matters, most of them suck anyway.

However, I did notice that even though anything with the "Rare" in the description isn't counted for the item completion, and these items obviously aren't, the only ones that actually have "Rare" tacked on are the SIGNs and Helba. Wonder why...

~Zak

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:54 pm

Actually some of them you can get.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:10 pm

Xu Yuan wrote:Actually some of them you can get.

Uh... no you can't, how? Maybe you're thinking of ths Steelblade for Blademaster, they both have a weapon called that. The Blademaster one is just a normal un-rare weapon, the Heavy Blade one is Blackrose's starting weapon.

~Zak

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:15 pm

I think you can get Flaming Wand.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:49 am

No, but there is a Flaming Rod you can get.

~Zak

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:53 am

Falming Rod! That's probably what I'm thinking of...

Reon · Post by **Reon** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:08 am

Well, if you do the side quests in OUTBREAK with the shots, you DO get "Tsukasa's Wand" and "Sora's Blades". Although thats there titles, they're still technically "Ludicrious" and "Last Betrayal". Granted that there around levels 50.

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:19 am

Ludicrous nd Last Betrayal have insane skills and stats, they aren't the same thing.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:01 pm

"Subaru's Axe" is a bit closer to the Fate Encounter, though.

Xu Yuan · Post by **Xu Yuan** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:42 pm

Yeah, surprisingly that's a pretty high level, that almnost mirror's it's rare item counter part.

Zak · Post by **Zak** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:29 am

Well, the main reason for this is clearly the fact that while Sora's Blades and Tsukasa's Wand are gotten in Outbreak, making them a whole volume's worth of levels lower, Subaru's Axe is very later in Quarantine when you'd be at a closer level.

Snake · Post by **Snake** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:55 am

Skeith9999 wrote:hee, hee, hee. i already gave my guys 9999 stats in vol 4, so i guess i can cheat some more. =^-^=

Cheat some more? I'm been cheating so much that the monsters can't even make a big damage on me and more likely are giving me life lol.
But is there really no way to get the weapon Last Betrayal rather than using a "have" cheat?

epitaph_wavemaster · Post by **epitaph_wavemaster** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:54 pm

I could have sworn there was a dungeon you could get them from. That's how I got them. I can't remember where but I'll look it up.

KaenKasharion · Post by **KaenKasharion** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:00 am

Zak wrote:
epitaph_wavemaster wrote:I heard that there is a dungeon you can get the last betrayal in. I'm not sure if it's true or not though. I haven't checked... I look it up again.
There is no way to get the Last Betrayal.

There's also no way to get the (everyone's starting weapon) Fate Encounter, 8 Wise Men, Ludicrous, Nautillus Wand, Flaming Wand, Expert Wand, Kai, Grizzly, Steelblade (Heavy one), Zero Katana, Amazon Spear, Eternal Victor, Meteor Axe, White Axe, Ends of Earth, 8 Phase Sword, Houraiken, Guillotine, and Heavenly Sword without cheating. Not that it matters, most of them suck anyway.

However, I did notice that even though anything with the "Rare" in the description isn't counted for the item completion, and these items obviously aren't, the only ones that actually have "Rare" tacked on are the SIGNs and Helba. Wonder why...

~Zak

A couple of those items I got from the spring of myst. (hehe, faq's...)