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I'm highly suspicious of TSN..
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:18 am
by Kiru
I know it's pretty much a given, but I still have that dim light of hope that it's just some CCorp BS to hide more truth from the players, few things
-Kites Player data, so the bracelet also.. Is protected.
-We saw a scene where Azure Kite put a player in a coma, I didn't get this, even if he was cheating, hey AK, wanna come GM WoW?

- They seem smart for AI's
-They join your party, AI's don't have Member Adresses
Post your opinions :3
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:32 am
by Procyon
Yes, they are shifty. Hopefully they'll betray Haseo or something. That would be interesting. XD
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:26 pm
by AuraTwilight
Kites Player data, so the bracelet also.. Is protected.
If they can tamper with Phase data, they can tamper with Kite's.
We saw a scene where Azure Kite put a player in a coma, I didn't get this, even if he was cheating, hey AK, wanna come GM WoW?
Yata's been known to falsify information before.
They seem smart for AI's
...AI's being smart is like...a key characteristic. What, have you NEVER played/seen/read .hack before GU?
They join your party, AI's don't have Member Adresses
The Tsukasa, Subaru, and Sora AI's had Member Addresses, and I could assume the Net Slum AI's and Aura could atleast falsify Member Addresses in order to send emails.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:33 pm
by Domino
I thought Tsukasa, Sora and Subaru was the real Player at the End of the 4 first games? Or am I wrong?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:35 pm
by Jimbob
Sora could be real. But Tsukasa and Subaru definitly aren't. Their emails sound like they still think they are back in SIGN.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:38 pm
by Domino
See... I mean the timing of the last Episode in .hack//Sign there are all of the player the one from Sign and the one of the .hack//Game (the first four)
Understand?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:40 pm
by Jimbob
Yeah in Unison they were the real deal. But that was supposedly Tsukasa's first time logging in since SIGN. So they weren't the one's who joined you. This is awhile after the games BTW.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:42 pm
by Domino
hm... I see ty^^
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:44 pm
by .Scythe
this may be a stupid statement (which i think it kinda is, since i havent been keeping up with .hack much) but, isn't the TSN what AK,AB and AO are part of? and in AuraTwilights post,
Yata's been known to falsify information before.
so yata is also part/associated with the tsn system? so put 2 and 2 together, then yata could bee directly associated with The knights.
also. could Yat be in with Ovan, cause why else would hhe want to falseify info about AK when he knew what it would do to Haseo. But he could have simply had different agendas then Ovan
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:50 pm
by Domino
I think that the TAN-Systems are only like a Virus Blog and a Firewall for the World R2. And Yata and Pai are only Systemadmins of the World R2.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:00 pm
by .Scythe
lol, not so much. I hope whatever Yata is planning is big and not something cheap and chliche
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:07 pm
by Domino
I think Yata is someting like Helba and Lios in one. I'm sure he's good in his work
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:10 pm
by .Scythe
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:58 pm
by AuraTwilight
The only reason Yata would have to lie is to get Haseo's trust. It's nothing that big. "Hey, Haseo will only cooperate if I help him beat Tri-Edge. And he thinks this Azure Kite feller is Tri-Edge. Better make some proof."
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:26 pm
by luke1213
ok maybe im retarded but what makes you think Azure Kite put that player in to a coma i think he just delete's the hacked part of them like Haseo got zaped by Herald and he got his job advancement so Haseo
was not normal that is why he got DD by A-Kite and he did not go in to a coma so all Azure kite does is reset your PC thats all no coma but i may be wrong[/b]
Re: I'm highly suspicious of TSN..
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:16 pm
by Osamu
-Kites Player data, so the bracelet also.. Is protected.
They have access to it, just like they did to the Phases
They seem smart for AI's
Remember Zefie? And how smart she was?
They join your party, AI's don't have Member Adresses
Before they became AIs they had member addresses. They could've just ripped it off of the old ones.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:43 pm
by Kouen
I'm interested in how they were able to create the TSN System. Didn't the Book of Twilight also install security onto Kite's character data that he can't be deleted, banned or modified? .... or is this another one of those Liminality non-canon easter eggs?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:13 pm
by Osamu
Kouen wrote:I'm interested in how they were able to create the TSN System. Didn't the Book of Twilight also install security onto Kite's character data that he can't be deleted, banned or modified? .... or is this another one of those Liminality non-canon easter eggs?
You know what? I was just thinking about that.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:09 pm
by Skeith of the Dawn
I also just noticed that although Azure kite does attack that 3 person party. He doesn't attack Haseo either time. Even though he DDed Haseo because he had an illigal upgrade. However in the cathedral and when you defeat him with Pi and Kuhn, AK isn't even paying attention to HAseo until he arms himself. In fact if Haseo did nothing AK might've not done anything to him. In anything looked around attacked for a second and left. Like with Phillo
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:21 pm
by AuraTwilight
I'm interested in how they were able to create the TSN System. Didn't the Book of Twilight also install security onto Kite's character data that he can't be deleted, banned or modified? .... or is this another one of those Liminality non-canon easter eggs?
It is canon, since Lios was unable to delete Kite in the games. However, the Phases were also supposedly undeletable or modifiable, but CC Corp managed to make the Epitaph PC's. Logically, the same can be said about Kite, right? Plus, since the TSN system was made in 2010, it's probable that Aura allowed it to happen, since it was for the benefit of the World.
And my last point, the TSN AI's aren't using the original characters' data. It's, at best, a copy. The TSN System was made in 2010, Kite, Orca, and Balmung have been playing until atleast 2014.
Taking THAT into account, all that's required is for Kite's data to be copied, and the copy could then be editted.