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'A' Note Theory
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:08 pm
by DarkAngel
Now I was reading somewhere about the boundary nature liminality and how the reason Mai was not sent into a coma was because her mind was not totally in the game. Well I believe that the "A" note she heard had something to do with that too. I was watching .hack//udeden and aura said something about how the people go into coma... when the a player gets killed in the game by morgana's monsters the mind is conditioned to think that he/she has died in the real world, sort of a like a hypnotic spell. I think that the "A" note hypnotizes the actual mind to think you are dead. But it seems Mai has special hearing as she heard the "A" note as the other people who were playing never seems to hear it. So i think because Mai heard the "A" note, her mind started to think about the real world and prevented her going into a full coma.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:36 pm
by Helbaworshipper
that theory could be correct, I think it could...really
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:03 pm
by Murray
That is a wonderful theory and makes a lot of sense.. She is a musician of sorts so her ears would pick up with ease a note that should have been unnoticeable. If only we could ask the creators themselves..
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:39 pm
by rain
it is mentioned in vol1 that she has mai has good hearing
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:48 pm
by Reon
a excellent and well thought out theory. but could something as simple as a note really save a person from going into a coma? thats what i love about this series, so many mysteries, as well as theories.
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:01 pm
by kite_blackrose
yeah it does make sense that she would hear the "A"not sound it is a very well thought out theory
What can and cannot stop comas...
Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:54 am
by GameMaster5001
Is pretty much unknown. Comas themselves are a big "???" these days. Causes are known, but cures are nearly nonexistent, as it is not a disease or anything, just a state of being. An incredibly deep sleep, where your body and mind slow down, and can eventually stop.
What can or cannot stop someone from becoming comatose or wake them from a coma? It's very hotly debated whether those in comas can hear things from the real world. But I have to ask you...have you ever been asleep, DEEPLY asleep, and suddenly found yourself jerked into the waking world for no apparent reason?
Perhaps your ears caught a sound you could not identify. Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution specialized in self-survival immediately yanked you out of what you were doing and MADE you aware.
Mai has extra-sensitive hearing, and is a survivor, as is demonstrated throughout the series. Whenever she gets
too close to the edge, her mind, or some outside force, could use something she is familiar with and yet curious about to keep her from completely descending into a coma.
In a book by a certain Science Fiction author, the protagonist of the story is a relatively normal person with some unusual abilities. Spoiler!
When this normal person comes up against a program that causes any who watch it to become vegetables (mentally, not physically!
), he is able to avoid that fate because his mind forces him to concentrate on something else, causing it to pretty much pass over him. Mai could have something similar. When her mind is descending into a coma, something else in it could sound that "A" note, making her pay attention to it. Without her concentrating mind to work on, the coma effect just passes over her.
That's my two cents.
Nah
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:51 pm
by Phase 9
A little hole in your theory: Most everyone can hear that sound. Go to any corrupted dungeon, and you can hear it in the background. Apparently, the sound is also generated from corrupted World .bmp files in addition to the 9 bracelets.
Re: Nah
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:05 pm
by KimageRagna
Phase 9 wrote:A little hole in your theory: Most everyone can hear that sound. Go to any corrupted dungeon, and you can hear it in the background. Apparently, the sound is also generated from corrupted World .bmp files in addition to the 9 bracelets.
9 bracelets? Don't you mean 9 phases?
Nope
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:10 pm
by Phase 9
You did not notice? Each Phase, and Kite, carries a similar bracelet with similar powers. 8+1=9. Which reminds me, there are 8, not 9 phases
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:13 pm
by KimageRagna
it's 1 in the morning don't blame me =P
odd
Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:15 pm
by Phase 9
Odd... it is like, 7pm here.
PS: Sorry, that looked like flaming, almost. I will have to watch the sarcasm
PPS:Welcome to the post! (Noticed join date) Go to the intro thread under Off-topic. Er... if you want to...
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:41 pm
by AuraTwilight
just to nitpick, the Phases don't have Bracelets. Data Drain is installed right into their player data. the Bracelet only exists as an installation file to allow PC's to use Data Drain. as for the A note thing, yea that sounds about right. See, people are falling into comas because they're completely absorbed into the game, giving it their full attention, so that making them comatose and bringing in their personas is simple. Mai however, woke up because the whole time she was thinking about how she was late for Violin Practice. Sure, anyone can hear the A tone, but it's the highest note that the human eardrum can hear, and as such, it's faint and slips into the human subconsciousness (actual scientific fact) unnoticable because it's a suggestive tone meant for aversion tactics. You can hear it but not notice it because your mind is fully focused on something. However, Mai's attention was diverted between two different things, and her musically trained ears picked up on it as well, and if you're aware you're being averted/hypnotized/brainwashed/whatever, it won't work. Mental manipulation and therapy has to be done subconsciously to the client.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:52 pm
by Phase 9
I called them bracelets for simplicity (they appear similar to Kite's bracelet). "Data removal execution program" looked funny, and slower people probably would not have picked up on it. And I can hear notes far above A in C minor (like the one my TV screen makes). Is there something wrong with my ears? Lol.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:34 am
by AuraTwilight
it's not C minor ^^; it's supposed to be C Major, but when the actual games/anime came out, they had to lower the sound because it induces seizures and whatnot. the Bracelets aren't Data Removal program either. They edit data, despite what the name Data Drain implies. I simply use Data Drain, since the Phases don't actually have an item of any sort. You can't hit a Phase's wrist with Blackrose's sword and break their Data Drain.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:20 am
by Phase 9
You called them bracelets, too. Heh.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:15 pm
by AuraTwilight
not really, since their Data Drain doesn't give them a Virus Gauge and they can't use it for Gate Hacking. It also doesn't use up any of their SP when they use it.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:49 pm
by xeno
AuraTwilight wrote:just to nitpick, the Phases don't have Bracelets. Data Drain is installed right into their player data. the Bracelet only exists as an installation file to allow PC's to use Data Drain. as for the A note thing, yea that sounds about right. See, people are falling into comas because they're completely absorbed into the game, giving it their full attention, so that making them comatose and bringing in their personas is simple. Mai however, woke up because the whole time she was thinking about how she was late for Violin Practice. Sure, anyone can hear the A tone, but it's the highest note that the human eardrum can hear, and as such, it's faint and slips into the human subconsciousness (actual scientific fact) unnoticable because it's a suggestive tone meant for aversion tactics. You can hear it but not notice it because your mind is fully focused on something. However, Mai's attention was diverted between two different things, and her musically trained ears picked up on it as well, and if you're aware you're being averted/hypnotized/brainwashed/whatever, it won't work. Mental manipulation and therapy has to be done subconsciously to the client.
I heard that the reason people can fall in to comas is because a certain brainwave pattern crosses with yours and get's mixed in and james it so to speak ,which one is true ,or are both true?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:56 pm
by AuraTwilight
both, really. there are multiple causes for comas, and the coma issue is supposed to be the "deep" part of the .hack series that's supposed to remind you of Lain -.-
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:22 pm
by xeno
AuraTwilight wrote:both, really. there are multiple causes for comas, and the coma issue is supposed to be the "deep" part of the .hack series that's supposed to remind you of Lain -.-
Lain? do you mean Serial Expirement Lain? I never understood that series