The Epitath of Twilight

FlameSage · Post by **FlameSage** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:56 pm

Well; here's where I put in my two cents.
After the outbreak of fire, everything of the World R1 was burned to the ground, except the blackbox. Now; System Administrators are trying to recreate the phases, where do they get their data from?

It's possiable that there TRYING to following the Epitath of Twilight, but remember, the origonal was lost, only copies (which are mistranslated or "stuff added into them"), the reason why all of the phases problems, could be because of the "Epitath of Twilight" used for the R2 wasn't correct in the first place. (It could have contradictions within the poem itself?)

What do you guys think about that?

Shinsou Wotan · Post by **Shinsou Wotan** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:03 pm

Much is revealed in the Terminal Disc.

1. Approximately 80% of The World's data was lost in the crash that coincided with the fire.

2. The attempt to resurrect the Phases was before the fire, and was the near-direct cause of it. The PCs with the Phase data incorporated were among the few things to survive from the original to R:2.

3. They got Macha's data through destructive analysis of Mia, and the rest were retrieved from The World's data by means unknown to any but those who did it.

The problem of incomplete knowledge of the poem is almost certainly unrelated to the problems in R:2.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:10 pm

I also doubt you can get such complex blueprints for such an intricate AI system from a poem in a text file.

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:57 am

AuraTwilight wrote:I also doubt you can get such complex blueprints for such an intricate AI system from a poem in a text file.

IMO, the Fragment (and its relation to the Epitaph of Twilight) and the Phases themselves were just wrappers, front ends for the distributed procesing needed to create and compile Aura. he just decided to go a game route rather than the @Home route (would certianly get more people to run the program

). the real Phases were controlled by the black box so the resurrected phases were created in trying to force the Black Box programs to run again

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:26 am

The key ambition wasn't "distributed processing", it was harnessing the power of a "communication game", gaining access to a nearly endless pool of memes. Regardless of what the waves were designed for, The World itself was designed to collect this information and use to to make Aura. Items, gold, etc. were used to transfer this data. The explain this in ep 4 of Liminality. This is the true purpose of the game...

VKV · Post by **VKV** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:39 am

I get the idea of what The Anaconda is saying that the Black Box isn't in action anymore (or atleast not as it used to be).
So, is this so?

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:48 am

Kuukai wrote:The key ambition wasn't "distributed processing", it was harnessing the power of a "communication game", gaining access to a nearly endless pool of memes. Regardless of what the waves were designed for, The World itself was designed to collect this information and use to to make Aura. Items, gold, etc. were used to transfer this data. The explain this in ep 4 of Liminality. This is the true purpose of the game...

well yah, what i was trying to say was he coulda started a like really popular website (like myspace) and acomplished the same purpose, but the processing power to do it was rather staggering so he took that approach that he did

@VKV: thats what I would assume. the primary functions of the black box were to build Aura, so once that was completed successfully there would be no reason for those functions to be running anymore. (now i refer to the bonus information on the Quarrantine LIMINALITY disc for this, i know some of its wrong but not to what extent). the way i understand it, the Phases were designed to condense and compile the raw data gathered by The World, for different aspects of humanity. what i figure, since Aura disappeared, the RA Project was trying to bring those functions back on again by bringing the phases back, hoping that would cause the rest of the Aura creation program to reboot and start up again, so they could replace Aura since she abandoned her post.

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:56 am

The Anaconda wrote:well yah, what i was trying to say was he coulda started a like really popular website (like myspace) and acomplished the same purpose, but the processing power to do it was rather staggering so he took that approach that he did

The series gives no reason to believe that it's running on anything other than the main servers (and hacker mirrors)... And things like myspace, etc., don't simulate "real" interaction on the level an mmorpg does... This is part of the symbolism behind it being called "The World", I'd assume...

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:24 am

meh, guess my line of thought is just too out there and i got off on too much of a tangent to be able to explain properly

i guess my point was the Epitaph of Twilight had abosultely nothing to do with the making of Aura. it was just there

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:52 pm

If you mean it wasn't used as a word-for-word "recipe" for events like some people seem to think, I agree, but it was still heavily used in her creation... The entire reason it's even in the system is to make Aura Emma's "child"...

FlameSage · Post by **FlameSage** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:45 pm

Either way, CCorp is still trying to play the roll of "Father", and personally, there doing a horriable job at it =P

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:33 pm

Father? Try total stranger whose become a horrible step father. ^^

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:58 pm

Or Dr. Frankenstein.

The Anaconda · Post by **The Anaconda** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:17 pm

Kuukai wrote:If you mean it wasn't used as a word-for-word "recipe" for events like some people seem to think, I agree, but it was still heavily used in her creation... The entire reason it's even in the system is to make Aura Emma's "child"...

yeah thats what i was going for. if emma had done something different, that would have been what was used instead of the epitaph