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A-20 appears again need explaining why
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:47 pm
by leiongod
ok hi there im new here but yuh ive already completed all 4 hack games and am stil doing the item completion quest thing but anyway as for collecting the rare items and all such as the ice bar chinese food scent of gero etc etc the last item i went to get was the maidens plot now when i went to
sigma: Abrasive False Tragedy
went i went into the dungeon and i met that lil A-20 twin blade chick ya know the one from hack sign anyway shes talking to me blah blah saying shes looking for golden gruntys and that she din find any here, so she gives you like a whole heap of grunty food and sum other item i forget ?
now heres where im kinda confused every time i got a golden grunty naturally i used it to increase me health, but after hearing what she said do you guys think that if i actually kept one i could of given it to her and maybe she joins ya party or i donno why but why was she hinting at the fact that she likes golden gruntys

is there something i can do to meet her again or can someone please clear up with me why she implied that to me.
i only say this cos of the short vid clip sequence i had with her and normally when you encounter other people in dungeons in previous hack games you had to do something for them so thats why i thought maybe i have to do something for her

what do you guys think
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:20 pm
by KaenKasharion
No.
Consume the grunties.
A-20 will appear in town at the end of the game eventually and is just there for you to talk to and trade stuff with. You do not need to give away those precious little golden and silver grunties. (god I love them.)
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:14 am
by leiongod

i was hoping she could join your party
say what is the highest hp and sp points you people have with your character kite going on memory here is my kites hp and sp
HP: 1947 SP:365 has anyone got higher than this or what i have attained these extra lil differences by cossuming golden and silver gruntys also is there any dungeons you guys know where if possible you can get silver and or golden gruntys from the zeit statue at the bottom of the dungeon floors

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:31 pm
by A-45
mine is
hp:9999
sp:9999
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:38 pm
by leiongod
A-45 wrote:mine is
hp:9999
sp:9999
ok that is utter nonsense and i have no reason to believe that, so im just gonna assume your joking
youd have to gimme a screen cap of your kite character with those numbres if youd expect me to believe that nonsense
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:15 am
by Sora of Azure Shadow
even if you beat all the grunty races you cant get your hp that high unless you found a dungon where you can get them
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:47 am
by AuraTwilight
Or the person could've just...y'know...LEVELED UP. It is statistically possible to get that hard if you...really like the game.
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:01 am
by Zak
AuraTwilight wrote:Or the person could've just...y'know...LEVELED UP. It is statistically possible to get that hard if you...really like the game.
Actually no, it isn't. Only Helba can have that.
Look at it this way. At level 99, the max your base HP is nowhere near 9999, it's somewhere in the 1000s. There are a limited amount of golden grunties in the game and they're the only way to raise HP. And with all the ones in the game, you won't reach 9999.
~Zak
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:43 am
by leiongod
i totally agree with ZAK and also can you guys tell me all the dungeons you know which hold gold and silver gruntys please cos i never found any hey

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:15 pm
by Zak
leiongod wrote:i totally agree with ZAK and also can you guys tell me all the dungeons you know which hold gold and silver gruntys please cos i never found any hey

I don't think there are any secret ones... they're all in events and I think the only one you find in a dungeon is Terajima Ryoko's sidequest in Outbreak. And you can only get that once.
~Zak
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:02 pm
by AuraTwilight
Actually no, it isn't. Only Helba can have that.
Look at it this way. At level 99, the max your base HP is nowhere near 9999, it's somewhere in the 1000s. There are a limited amount of golden grunties in the game and they're the only way to raise HP. And with all the ones in the game, you won't reach 9999.
It IS still possible if you know what the hell you're doing. I know three people who've done it without hacking.
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:23 pm
by Master ZED
AuraTwilight wrote:Actually no, it isn't. Only Helba can have that.
Look at it this way. At level 99, the max your base HP is nowhere near 9999, it's somewhere in the 1000s. There are a limited amount of golden grunties in the game and they're the only way to raise HP. And with all the ones in the game, you won't reach 9999.
It IS still possible if you know what the hell you're doing. I know three people who've done it without hacking.
Then describe the process to us; where are the gruntys? Or the sutras? What fields are they on? And so on and so forth. I have no idea how to max out HP/SP, no one has ever mentioned it on G'FAQs or here (to my knowledge) and seeing as I'd love to add that bit of knowledge to my personal text, let's hear it.
And I do hope you aren't confusing grunties and sutras with lores, since maxing elementals is known to be possible.
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:16 pm
by Zak
AuraTwilight wrote:Actually no, it isn't. Only Helba can have that.
Look at it this way. At level 99, the max your base HP is nowhere near 9999, it's somewhere in the 1000s. There are a limited amount of golden grunties in the game and they're the only way to raise HP. And with all the ones in the game, you won't reach 9999.
It IS still possible if you know what the hell you're doing. I know three people who've done it without hacking.
Umm, there would have to be an unlimited amount of grunties and Sutras in the game to do that, as those are the only things that raise HP. As far as I know, they're limited: There are three in each race, one in Terajima's dungeon (which you only get once), and two in Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground when you get the memories. And, the Energy Sutras are only in the phantom event. If there's any other way to get them without hacking, please enlighten us. If it's true, I'll eat my keyboard.
~Zak
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:50 pm
by AuraTwilight
I've never even actually played the games, but I watched my friends level up that high, and they don't even know how to hack or even have any hacking tools

I'm sure it had something to do with Data Draining.
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:53 pm
by Sora of Azure Shadow
even with datadrain thats still not possable
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:11 pm
by leiongod
ok this is getting out of control.....ok by the looks of it here, we all agree that its not possible to have that hih hp and sp, so i wreckon the best way to actually prove to us is for you
AuraTwilight to take a photo of these stats and show us a pic and also show us their stats in the menu as well cos id like to see their elementals stats as well.
im sure if you did that you could prove this to us once and all.
and um wtf is this thing by data draining

what are you saying

that if ya drain certain monsters you can silver and gold gruntys or what hey please enlighten all of us cos this is a mystery which i find too farfetched to believe.
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:22 pm
by Nenja
well is posible that random dungeons have golden gruntys or silver but i dont feel like goin to explore 1000's dungeons
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:17 am
by Zak
AuraTwilight wrote:I've never even actually played the games, but I watched my friends level up that high, and they don't even know how to hack or even have any hacking tools

I'm sure it had something to do with Data Draining.
Okay, then tell them what I said, and ask them the exact same question I asked (and Master ZED as well). I'm interested to hear their explanation.
A photo would be nice, but I'd like to know how they did it, for all I know, they could be using a cheat, and cheating =/= hacking.
~Zak
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:35 am
by leiongod
their probably using gameshark codes hey XD and look i dont expect people here to explore thousands of dungeons but hey if you do come across any which hold silver or golden gruntys can ya gimme the names of keywords and servers where ay got em from also heck even if there are cheats can ya tell me what to do heck id love to see my kite with that high a hp and sp even though i still doubt it can be attained
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:25 pm
by Zak
People would know by now if there are any. I'm sure someone with a lot of time in their hands must have hacked the game and wrote a program to bruteforce through thousands of areas and list the possibilities in each dungeon in each server. I'm not big on programming, but I'm sure there's probably a quick way to do that.
But seriously, if a dungeon had something as big as a golden grunty it'd most likely have been on one of the DVD easter eggs like the BL Yokohama.
Unless BanDai had some secret sweepstakes for finding that in the 65536 dungeons in the game.
~Zak