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Clearing the Harald dungeon?
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:58 pm
by Roque
Help! This is the second time I've tried to clear Delta Reincarnated Purgatorial Altar, the dungeon where you go to see Harald. I've followed the guides in the FAQ and I've issued Operation Recover after every battle and killed all the enemies myself. That's helped lower my Infection in B1-B7, but things got harder after that.
In B8, you get the Data Bugged Conquerors, who are real cast-iron b!tches to defeat. I've had to revive my party a couple of times during the battle, and even then, after I Data Drain them individually (the Protect Breaks restore WAY too quickly to Drain Arc the fsckers) I THEN have to struggle to kill the Conquerors in their normal form. These are the ones who do OrbiAni Don AND revive their dead dudes. I end up having everyone do Skills just to kill them, otherwise I don't survive.
I got as far as B9 before I got System Error and Game Over. ;-;
I think it's because I'm using Sora's Blades... the Death gets them down really quickly, and I don't know if that's what isn't lowering my Infection Rate as much. I'm at level 87 doing this, as is most of my party. What should I do? Should I level up as much as possible before clearing this dungeon? Should I try something else to lower my infection rate?
HELP! ;-;
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:12 pm
by Sora of Azure Shadow
i was level 90 when i beat the dungon if you want to level up go to the areas with the guardian (the monster that looks like a barbell data drain him and you fight the bracelet which gives you alot of exp. data drain the housegolem in the field to get the sins of hades which are the strongest weapons in the game BUT it decreases your acceracy buy 15 but didnt make a difference to me i almost never mised get stronger armor and weapons for your party and yourself and stock up on recovery items and you should be fine. also i heard the higher level you are the less your infection rate goes up.
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:28 pm
by Roque
Much, much obliged! I'll go on that as soon as possible!
Is the Infection lowering based on how many hits you land or how many monsters you kill? If it's the latter, I'll probably stick with Sora's Blades simply because the Death makes my day a lot easier.
I kept trying to avoid draining the Guardian in case I have to go back to Sigma to get more Virus Core Gs. It's getting to be that I have to round up Forest Hsiens around Napolyons in order to get them to get Ol Repthed into health so I can drain... uch, so tedious... -_-
Do I have to go back and get more G cores? If so, I'd like to avoid leveling up... ;-;
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:27 am
by Sora of Azure Shadow
no you dont need anymore virus cores for the rest of the game. the infection rate goes down when you kill a monster without datadrain
and you make it sound like the monsters dont come back if you datadrain them they dont just dissapear they are there each time you go back
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:16 pm
by Zak
First of all, start the dungeon with your infection as blue as possible, like the above posters explained how.
Since you have to have Blackrose, have your other person be Wiseman (would have brought Wiseman and Balmung otherwise).
The Sora Blades are your best friend, and KILL everything that isn't a Data Bug.
And as for the corrupted Time Visitor, just focus on draining them as soon as possible, EVEN IF YOUR INFECTION IS HIGH AND THERE ARE UNCORRUPTED DARK LORDS THAT CAN LOWER IT. Your infection is a crucial thing, yes, but he's just going to keep ressurrecting the non-corrupted monsters who are gonna keep attacking you, and to my knowledge, if a monster you kill is ressurected by a Time Visitor monster, an ark, or a Menhir or whatever else can do it, your infection doesn't get benifited from it. So in this case, focus on the Data Bug first, because risking a system error is better than a complete waste of energy which won't even lower your risk of that.
Now... if you see multiple Time Visitor data bugs in a room, you're in trouble and must be fast and better pray for luck of draining not costing you the system, and hopefully not any items (I personally hate the losing an item one). What you do is drain them both before eliminating either of them. They may be able to ressurrect, but they can't re-corrupt! Remove both their barriers, and use the same party strategy you always use when there are multiple ressurecters. But if I recall correctly, they actually turn into Time Visitors, which go back to Outbreak level in which case a single hit may kill them (I may be wrong about that, it could be one of the other two but still you're a lot higher).
Of course you may get a system error if your infection is red, but that's pure luck and I can't help you there. The only advice I can give you is to take the route with the least portals, EXCEPT on floors where you encounter a lot of normal monsters like Madam Niagara or Dark Lord. There, you should go everywhere you can in hope of meeting more so you can lower your infection.
I could list directions for each floor and tell when normal monsters are common, but I assume Gamefaqs has maps and monster rarity guide. If not, I'll post here later, but I think you'll be fine.
And did I mention to start the dungeon with blue infection?
~Zak
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:22 pm
by KaenKasharion
level... 87....? Are you KIDDDING me?
I did the dungeon at level 96. Easy peasy.
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:52 pm
by Zak
I did mine at 70something....
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:42 am
by Sora of Azure Shadow
i was about 95
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:48 pm
by SnowManZero
Zak wrote:I did mine at 70something....
i'm sure you did
what, did you start out quarentine with this dungeon?
i did this level at about lv 90 something.
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:44 pm
by blackphoenix
I didn't have to worry about going red with the Harald dungeon. I was around Lv 92 after completing it (mostly because I kept losing 4-800 EXP). It was rather easy. The level where you get Mia back proved to be more of a challenge because there is no way to lower your infection level from red.
At least in the Harald dungeon, there was maybe only 1 time where I went red, but I was able to lower the infection rate to yellow by the time I was done.
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:18 am
by Sora of Azure Shadow
There is always some way to lower your infection level you just have to look around the dungon for regular monsters. but you might also run into more data bugs[/quote]
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:50 am
by blackphoenix
Err.....I know there is always a way to lower infection, but that specific dungeon seems to have databugs in 90% of the rooms, so killing uninfected monsters doesn't quite take you out of the 100% infection level. I have managed to get down to roughly 75% infection, but it didn't last long.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:36 am
by Zak
blackphoenix wrote:Err.....I know there is always a way to lower infection, but that specific dungeon seems to have databugs in 90% of the rooms, so killing uninfected monsters doesn't quite take you out of the 100% infection level. I have managed to get down to roughly 75% infection, but it didn't last long.
Err... actually there are some floors that have ONLY normal monsters and you're meant to use them to refill. The Psyche Vision for instance... and those Dark Lords? Let's not forget the Madame Niagara and the VlitraMaster...
~Zak
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:37 am
by Dengar
No, you just need some luck, since the monsters are random.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:19 pm
by Shell
You also shouldn't use any of the other Data Drains (Drain Arc, etc) other than regular Data Drain. It brings up your infection level quicker. :<
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:58 pm
by Dengar
Not that that helps any if you get packs of 3 databugs for EACH and EVERY room for 12 rooms straight.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:49 pm
by Shell
It just kind of depends on how lucky you are... but it does help keep your infection level from rising quicker. And the less time you spend in the red, the less chance you have of getting a system error and having to start over. D: Better safe than sorry, right?
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:15 am
by Dengar
I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm just saying that even WHEN you use only Data Drain, you might get unlucky. Especially those first four floors of the Mia dungeon are a **** because of the multiple databugs.
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:44 pm
by Sora of Azure Shadow
i never had that much trouble with the first few floors except for the portals with 3 or 4 armor generals
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:08 pm
by Zak
Err, actually, certain floors are set up specifically for normal monsters to be common. Of course data bug encounters on those floors are quite possible, if you're less lucky. But I'm sure that dungeon contains at least three floors designed to heal your infection.
~Zak