Transforming

ChaozWolfe · Post by **ChaozWolfe** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:00 am

Well, We all have seen that picture of Haseo transforming into a upgraded Skieth right? Well, I think I found a picture of Pai transforming as well, Here, http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... orm7or.png So, its gonna be a pretty cool thing if you can transform like whenever, like a way to replace DD as a game device, to make it more... Interesting, your thoughts?

KaenKasharion · Post by **KaenKasharion** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:04 am

I don't think its a transformation. Maybe its just some scenes where the player gets Data Drained, and they become the catalysts for the phases. There COULD be some new skills or whatever they gain, but this belongs in theories, me thinks.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:42 am

no this image along with haseo, follows my Catalyst theory, that these 8 players are catalysts for the phases to be reborn, and no it isn't a summon or a transformation or there would be no fun in the game

KaenKasharion · Post by **KaenKasharion** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:49 am

Tsugasa-kun wrote:no this image along with haseo, follows my Catalyst theory, that these 8 players are catalysts for the phases to be reborn, and no it isn't a summon or a transformation or there would be no fun in the game

What about Kite? Theres no fun in the game because if you encounter a really strong monster and are in danger of dieing, just protect break, if they arent already, and data drain. No offense.

I think and hope there will be a new skill or SOMETHING that adds to Haseo and the infinity that will make them unique characters, other than the fact some cant log out, etc.

YouTube · Post by **Erroneous** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:19 am

End of a Shadow's old thoughts and screen shots of Kuhn and Pai also being able to transform into their "other" titles. Now with screen shots in reply #1!

KaenKasharion · Post by **KaenKasharion** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:41 am

End of a Shadow wrote:End of a Shadow's old thoughts and screen shots of Kuhn and Pai also being able to transform into their "other" titles. Now with screen shots in reply #1!

I noticed those scenes in the trailer as well, but not very clearly. Thanks! =D

Humakt · Post by **Humakt** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:29 am

maby its like breth of fire dragon quarter where u can transform into an undefeatable player featureing realey powerful attacks and skills bt if u use it too mutch its game over

SnowManZero · Post by **SnowManZero** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:55 am

as far as the phases and transformation's are concerned,i would have to say that Tsugasa-kun is right in the fact that they most probably won't willingly change into the phase's version2.

i do like the fact that you could inherant a new ability from being DD by tri-edge but it would only be one of two thing's
1the phases particular special attack
2the phases form of DD

i would prefer the first,personally

Humakt wrote:maby its like breth of fire dragon quarter where u can transform into an undefeatable player featureing realey powerful attacks and skills bt if u use it too mutch its game over

what your suggesting is a diffenet form of DD, where instead of the databug's being DD when they have protect break status,the player becomes the phase and defeat's the databug in the new form. it would still be the same result and probably the mean's by which to become able to transform after a certain point.i am not the only one who would think that it would be the same if you said the transform function is the new DD.that is of course if they even have a transform function.

sorry if your upset about this but that's what i think.

Dark Knight Sparda · Post by **Dark Knight Sparda** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:50 pm

something that may happed is like in the devil may cry series were dante after an event can change into his demon form, in this case after haseo is dd he can turn into skeith for a short period of time

Kaibutsu · Post by **Kaibutsu** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:46 pm

Maybe when they are data drained they gain something. But it's unknown if the Infinity 8 will all fall victim to Tri-edge. In Haseo's case if anything like I stated on the speculation thread. I would think his level cap may be removed.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:19 pm

I doubt anything like transforming or summoning is nessessary. It generally rules against system parameters. The tension bar is supposed to enable Haseo to employ all sorts of finishing strikes against his oppents. I won't rule it out entirely, but I honestly don't see it happening; at least from the perspective of the storyline.

Speaking of Skeith, I just noticed that the Skeith we've seen in the new trailers is not the original Skeith. Well I mean to say we see the original Skeith do something to Haseo. The original Skeith shatters and in its place we see... Skeith? Well it might be an upgraded Skeith program. I have no clue honestly, but I have some ideas.

SnowManZero · Post by **SnowManZero** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:42 am

Dragoon2044 wrote:Speaking of Skeith, I just noticed that the Skeith we've seen in the new trailers is not the original Skeith. Well I mean to say we see the original Skeith do something to Haseo. The original Skeith shatters and in its place we see... Skeith? Well it might be an upgraded Skeith program. I have no clue honestly, but I have some ideas.

skeith V! never appeared in the trailer's. it was skeith 2 and upgraded version maybe but i would think more along the line's of to fit in with the new world.....

by comparrison.

azure_flames · Post by **azure_flames** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:46 am

It could be that once each of the Infinity8 is DD'd, they simply get a new technique. Like how Gorre had one side physical tolerance and the other was magical tolerance. Or how Corbenik had his "Absolute Shield." Or how Innis could summon up monsters. This could give players extra abilities that last for a short amount of time, but are quite good. Not like instant kill stuff, but stuff that would do some pretty good damage against a boss-type enemy.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:52 am

Again, that seems too simple. The .hack series is very complex when taken as a whole, I do not believe it would do the GU games any justice for them to simply summon monsters and have magical tolerance.

Whatever does happen, you can bet that we do not have enough information to make an educated guess in the correct direction.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:52 pm

I'm thinking the Infinity 8 will gain some attributes of the Phases they represent, and their powers may be a bit augmented, but I don't think they'll get anything crazy. I'm sure that each Infinity 8 character will be effected differently, though. I'm SURE of it. Maybe it'll effect their personalities, like the Phases are manipulating their emotions just enough to get the data they need?

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:52 pm

skeith V! never appeared in the trailer's. it was skeith 2 and upgraded version maybe but i would think more along the line's of to fit in with the new world.....

Look in the TGS trailer between 5:07 and 5:22. Between 5:16 and 5:21 we see the original Skeith from the four games. At 5:22 we see this upgraded Skeith. At least thats how I've come to interpret it.

Umbra and AuraTwilight both make valid points. It would undermine the idea that we are playing a simulated MMORPG. I believe gamebalance is very important in both online games and offline games. The storyline itself would suffer if you were able to summon Skeith to fight or have Haseo transform into Skeith and fight during a battle. Though I admit, I could imagine a final battle where Haseo fights in a one-on-one duel againt Tri-edge at Grima Lowe(the place where everything begins and ends). Say if you would inflict enough damage on Tri-edge Haseo could briefly transform into Skeith and data drain Tri-edge(this would all be from a storyline POV and not a game mechanic by itself. In otherwords, something unique this battle. Who knows?

Kaibutsu · Post by **Kaibutsu** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:04 pm

Well I would think in the fire all the phases were damaged. Most likely the Infinity 8 were pre-determined so the data remnants of Skeith always resided in Haseo but could not exist in "The World" as it is now. By being Data Drained Skeith is able to merge with the new data of "The World" Voila Skeith 2.0 Although what powers he left behind with Haseo is anyone's guess. I think though Skeith was removed from Haseo so transforming into him, in my opinion is unlikely

PyroTwilight · Post by **PyroTwilight** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:22 pm

I noticed Pai transforming ages ago. Let's see if I can find the images I had captured...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... gryPai.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... vospai.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... vosPai.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... aihigh.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... ousPai.jpg
As far as I can tell Haseo and his party confronts Pai and possibly her Tarvos whatever activates, Haseo defeats her/it and she detransforms goes unconscious and Haseo has to carry her back to the root town, or something like that.

There's also a scene that shows a pink orb flying in the sky that looks very Pai ish in one of the trailers, don't have it at the moment though.

Edit: I'll try to get the scene of Pai in the sky soon. It's at 1 min and 53 seconds in the first trailer. Slow it down and you'll see her.

Tsugasa-kun · Post by **Tsugasa-kun** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:31 pm

Do not predict whats gunna happen

PyroTwilight · Post by **PyroTwilight** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:48 pm

Tsugasa-kun wrote:Do not predict whats gunna happen

And..why not? It's fun trying to and if it doesn't end up being completely correct I don't care.

Edit: Here's the other picture I had wanted to post before. More of Pai transforming I believe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v736/ ... Paisky.jpg