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And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

Keyaki wrote:And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

looks like an american Ra Ra story, if we could kill some patriots then I'm game.

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

looks like an american Ra Ra story, if we could kill some patriots then I'm game.

YOU! CAN!

Keyaki wrote:

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

looks like an american Ra Ra story, if we could kill some patriots then I'm game.

YOU! CAN!

Really? That's a relief, they were nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites anyway.

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

looks like an american Ra Ra story, if we could kill some patriots then I'm game.

YOU! CAN!

Really? That's a relief, they were nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites anyway.

That I agree with.

But its been established from the beginning that Connor is fighting Templars, whom are on both sides.

Though Ill admit, it would be nice to see Connor kill Templars in blue coats.

Keyaki wrote: But its been established from the beginning that Connor is fighting Templars, whom are on both sides.

Though Ill admit, it would be nice to see Connor kill Templars in blue coats.

They deserve it, liberty and freedom my foot, they forgot to include other people besides whites, honestly I would've preferred the british, at least they abolished slavery while america continued it till that van helsing became president.

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/As ... Liberation

There's a part of the trailer where she kills a blue coat.

Keyaki wrote:http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/As ... Liberation

There's a part of the trailer where she kills a blue coat.

That's in Liberation, and on another note does it take place in the same era as 3 or another? And that blue coat looks french, orleans was french territory wasn't it?

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/As ... Liberation

There's a part of the trailer where she kills a blue coat.

That's in Liberation, and on another note does it take place in the same era as 3 or another? And that blue coat looks french, orleans was french territory wasn't it?

They said that Aveline and Connor meet in Liberation so yea. And it takes place during the end of the French-Indian War so I guess.

We'll just have to see when the game comes out, but I'm sure its not going to be all about killing red coats.

Anyone gearing up for it? Personally I'm excited but at the same time slightly irked for personal reasons regarding the patriots.

Keyaki wrote:

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/As ... Liberation

There's a part of the trailer where she kills a blue coat.

That's in Liberation, and on another note does it take place in the same era as 3 or another? And that blue coat looks french, orleans was french territory wasn't it?

They said that Aveline and Connor meet in Liberation so yea. And it takes place during the end of the French-Indian War so I guess.

We'll just have to see when the game comes out, but I'm sure its not going to be all about killing red coats.

Time to start an AC3 thread then, and on another note, can George Washington be killed?

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:

Kaori wrote:

Keyaki wrote:http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/As ... Liberation

There's a part of the trailer where she kills a blue coat.

That's in Liberation, and on another note does it take place in the same era as 3 or another? And that blue coat looks french, orleans was french territory wasn't it?

They said that Aveline and Connor meet in Liberation so yea. And it takes place during the end of the French-Indian War so I guess.

We'll just have to see when the game comes out, but I'm sure its not going to be all about killing red coats.

Time to start an AC3 thread then, and on another note, can George Washington be killed?

He's one of Connor allies from what we're told. And yes I know that he was apart of the Freemasons but we don't know the relationship between the Freemasons and the Templars and Ubisoft said they were gonna follow really closely with the Freemasons are.

Keyaki wrote:And I sir and quite shocked of lack of excitement for AC III.

lolwut? Was that message even directed to me or just a randomly-stated Random Fact? D:

In case it is for me, you already know my answer very well. It's not that i'm not "excited" about ACIII exactly, it's that i can't see why they're showing us this kind of game with that kind of history, and i fear they'll RUIN the entire story that has made the AC saga so brilliant and so freaking perfect, just for the sake of a "OMFGSOEPIC" game.

First of all, it has been well-established during the series that Ezio was the most important subject they had to research in the Animus, and with damn good reason why. Sure, Altair was so freaking important too, but even since the beginning Abstergo directly attempted to get into the memories of Ezio...going through the memories of Altair first was their method to ensure they could access Ezio's memories without brain-toasting Desmond as it already happened with a certain past subject.
And alright, the good guys managed to discover Ezio's deepest memories, they found EVERYTHING they were looking for, they even discovered things they never expected to find, all that information regarding Those Who Came Before, the cataclysm that's about to fall upon us, and what they need to locate to save their race. They even gave them a MAP of where to go, so it's not like they have to do any more research. They just have to go to that area (and they have actually arrived there) and get as most prepared as possible to fight the Templars one last time, a time in which they're finally at an advantage after so many years. And each side is sending their best agents...Desmond and his team for the Assassin's, and Daniel Cross and the best animus-trained agents for the Templars. This is it, the last battle, the last war against the Templars, before we all die by the end of 2012. They build that up so damn well, every detail was covered, and now one would expect a final game, a 3rd Assassin's Creed game, in which Desmond could FINALLY shine as the main character, the main hero, saving the freaking world...no more DNA memories, no more training, no more looking for clues on the past...this is the serious **** right now.

But NOOOO, suddenly the 3rd game will be about ANOTHER Animus character, ANOTHER ancestor of Desmond which has NEVER been mentioned before (unlike Ezio who was referrenced to at the very beginning of AC1, and the main target of everyone overall), in a time that is SUDDENLY important now but once again wasn't EVER mentioned, and i just can't see why they would use that historical event if just to say AMERICA FU­CK YEAH. But alright, Russia was being way too explored in The Fall comics so whatever.
Now, this new character, whoever the f­uck is he, is suddenly on the American side, killing Templars on the Britain side. Alright...so WHAT THE HELL happened to all those events in Brotherhood in which the Templar ruling was overthrown in Great Britain!? And sure, by 2012 the entire world is Templar-ruled (i believe Russia remained free though), but still, that feels like a total contradiction. As it is the fact that, by 1900's, United States is not only a Templar-ruled country, but the freaking CORE OF THE ENTIRE TEMPLAR ORDER, with characters such as Henry Ford and Franklin Roosevelt heavily involved, alongside 100+ others. SO WHAT THE FU­CK IS CONNOR DOING THERE, OR WHAT POSSIBLY IMPORTANT THING HE COULD'VE DONE THAT THEY HAVE TO USE UP THE ENTIRE 3RD SAGA OF ASSASSIN'S CREED FOR IT!?

Honestly, i'm not exactly AGAINST this part of the history being developed for the AC saga. I've loved to hear all about the Assassins before Ezio, all of which happened after Ezio abandoned this world, all of the global events involving the war between the Templars and Assassins, and AC: The Fall is a freaking MASTERPIECE of it all, and it doesn't mention Altair or Ezio in any way (but involves Daniel Cross who is the best Templar agent so far, the death of the last mentor of the Creed, and the reason why everything is going on in AC the way it's been). What makes me PISSED is that, suddenly, all of this American history is so important that it must take place in Desmond's chapter, instead of EVERYTHING ELSE that has been built up so far. And sure, if this third game series manages to connect everything DAMN WELL, with Assassin's Creed 3 STILL being the last AC game ever, WITHOUT contradicting all that's been said before and instead giving a PERFECT conclusion, of the kind which i've seen in my other tremendously-favorite series, then i'll be completely satisfied and take back all i've said here. But so far, i can only see that they'll still continue up to Assassin's Creed 7 or so, the 2012 catastrophe turning into another background detail of no importance (maybe never reaching it...woo for still being at 2012 in-game while we play it on 2018), and "fixing" everything they've said about America's involvement with the Templars, all "OOPS, we were wrong, Americans are actually awesome, they were just used but deep inside they've been Templars all along and YAY WE WON GOD BLESS AMERICA". Sure, i could be entirely wrong (and i REALLY HOPE i am)...but EVERY detail i've seen so far, every trailer i've watched, every new Wiki entry that i've read, all point to Ubisoft wanting to make more money out of this series, and wanting to throw many random ideas that would make people buy more games because they're OMFGSOAWESOME, while sacrificing the story they've come up to until now, and "retconning" all those details that could give an end to the series, or show displeasure to certain people and certain countries, for the sake of making it more "appealing".

And alright, game-wise i'm so excited for it, really. AMAZING graphics, AMAZING gameplay it seems to have, i can trust in the perfect dynamics they can use for this game, and i expect some amazing OST too. But would i really, REALLY enjoy a game just because of how awesome that Connor guy took down an entire battalion on his own? Just because i'll kill some people in ways i've never killed before? Enjoy a game just for that, as they ruin and contradict all i've played and loved before? NO.


And now i see there's been several replies during all my rambling...and now i kinda feel like i "lost my timing" D: But anyways, this is my full reply, and i suppose you can perfectly understand why my "lack of excitement" about it. You could perhaps compare it with initial thoughts regarding .Hack//LINK... and just as LINK proved to be the best game released with the most PERFECT of details and explanations of EVERYTHING, i seriously hope AC III does that as well. But i can't currently see that happening right now, and i just CAN'T be all "OMFG AC III LOOKS SO DAMN EPIC I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT IT'LL BE AWEZOMEZZZZ 83333", for all reasons i've stated before.


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Yeah, moved all posts in here so we can actually debate and kill each other about it while leaving the other happy topic in peace x3
Nice timing creating this topic, Kaori. lol

Sure, Altair was so freaking important too, but even since the beginning Abstergo directly attempted to get into the memories of Ezio...going through the memories of Altair first was their method to ensure they could access Ezio's memories without brain-toasting Desmond as it already happened with a certain past subject.

Not really, they need both Altair and Ezio equally. They knew Desmond had an ancestor with a map detailing the locations of the Apples of Eden and maybe other Pieces of Eden.

While Vidic had Subject 16, the Vault was discovered through Ezio's memories, that's what made Ezio so important. So both were equally needed.

Keyaki wrote:

Sure, Altair was so freaking important too, but even since the beginning Abstergo directly attempted to get into the memories of Ezio...going through the memories of Altair first was their method to ensure they could access Ezio's memories without brain-toasting Desmond as it already happened with a certain past subject.

Not really, they need both Altair and Ezio equally. They knew Desmond had an ancestor with a map detailing the locations of the Apples of Eden and maybe other Pieces of Eden.

While Vidic had Subject 16, the Vault was discovered through Ezio's memories, that's what made Ezio so important. So both were equally needed.

Well, Ezio's memories contained that same map as well, carved into those codex pages that he had full access to. And most of Altair's deepest secrets and memories were transeferred to Ezio, and anyone being able to see all of Ezio's memories would also see those important details regarding Altair's memories.

But fine, let's say that Ezio and Altair were both equally important, and yes, they really were and they were both extremely epic legendary Assassins. I still don't see where that freaking Connor fits into all of this -3-

One theory i had though, based on some link you posted before and which left me thinking for a bit, is that perhaps Connor is just the means of contacting the "Eve" that Subject 16 mentioned to Desmond. Connor meets that other girl, Aveline, and through that connection, Desmond will have to locate the last descendant of that Aveline, the Eve that they need for some very important purpose. THAT, i can accept, as it gives a meaning to going through Connor's memories that perfectly connects with the rest of the story...but STILL, i can't accept that they're taking up a whole new saga of AC just for that. They're still ruining all the build-up the last games managed to create, dragging on this story for longer than they should, and once again i would've preferred to see Desmond take part in this story as the actual hero, not through another character once again. This is beginning to look like the perfect example of a series being "milked" D8