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Looks like its back to the bomb shelters!
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:45 am
by Erranty
The Large Hadron Collider is supposed to be up and running this coming month. Prepare for a bunch of scientists purposely trying to recreate the big bang, an explosion that, supposedly, was so powerful it created & launched an infinite amount of matter across an infinite amount of distance.
If nothing else, the fact that its basically supposed to make 2 atoms split each other will at least cause a nuclear explosion.
Re: Looks like its back to the bomb shelters!
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:10 pm
by S1lentOp
You really are a twat. Absolutely nothing in your entire post is true except for the first sentence.
Erranty wrote:Prepare for a bunch of scientists purposely trying to recreate the big bang,
No one is trying to recreate the Big Bang. The LHC is going to recreate the conditions immediately after the Big Bang in order to observe the physical conditions of the universe immediately after the expansion so that we can evaluate known theories and hopefully be able to create new theories based on whatever discoveries may follow.
an explosion that, supposedly, was so powerful it created & launched an infinite amount of matter across an infinite amount of distance.
It wasn't an explosion, it didn't launch an infinite amount of matter across an infinite amount of space either. There's a hell of a lot more space out there than there is matter, and its expansion is going to stop long before it ever reaches any conceivable 'end' of it.
If nothing else, the fact that its basically supposed to make 2 atoms split each other will at least cause a nuclear explosion.
It's not and it won't. The LHC is meant to collide a hair-thin stream of sub-atomic particles in high energy collisions for literal hours as its guided around a circular course by superconductors as detectors installed in the system detect and record the 600 million collisions
per second that are going to take place. The ultimate purpose of this is to test the now incomplete Standard Model of particle physics, namely the existence of the Higgs Boson (aka the "God particle"). It will not create a nuclear explosion and won't even create any kind of an combustion at all, especially not one you could see without heavy equipment like what is being used.
This sensationalist **** has been shot down again, and again, and again since the damn thing was conceived.
Re: Looks like its back to the bomb shelters!
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:15 pm
by Erranty
Yes, but in the scientific method, THEORIES often become wrong. And that's all they're working with right now. So its possible that they're just biased and want to see the thing they've spent so much time and money on run its course.
Re: Looks like its back to the bomb shelters!
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:42 pm
by S1lentOp
Erranty wrote:Yes, but in the scientific method, THEORIES often become wrong. And that's all they're working with right now. So its possible that they're just biased and want to see the thing they've spent so much time and money on run its course.
I don't really see your point here. Of course theories are often times flawed, they're only based on the data that we've collected thus far. What makes theories reliable and authoritative is their explanatory power and evidential support; things the Standard Model has down pretty well. I don't really know what your idea is of a scientific experiment, but the purpose of a theory is to construct a model that is accurate enough for us to make predictions about what would happen under a certain set of circumstances. In evolution, the theory predicts that we would find certain types of creatures with certain bone structures and a certain genetic makeup in certain locations, and one reason why evolution has proven to be a good theory is that it has successfully made these predictions. If the LHC wasn't meant to test predictions made by the Standard Model (i.e. The existence of the Higgs Boson) as well as collect data on possible new discoveries of phenomena we haven't yet been able to see, namely dark matter, then I don't understand what your expectations are of the LHC or the scientific method in general.