Page 1 of 2

bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:10 pm
by Death and Rebirth
who do you think would win in this match up I think it would be ichigo.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:07 am
by SnowManZero
Not that I'm against these thread's, but just as a head's up they have a very short life expectancy.

And definatly toshiro.

Ichigo is cool and all, but it's hitsuguya.

ichi's quick but it's hitsuguya.

Ichigo has his hollow mode but it's hitsuguya.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:24 pm
by haseoxth
SnowManZero wrote:Not that I'm against these thread's, but just as a head's up they have a very short life expectancy.

And definatly toshiro.

Ichigo is cool and all, but it's hitsuguya.

ichi's quick but it's hitsuguya.

Ichigo has his hollow mode but it's hitsuguya.
Dude.Its the Bad ass Chibi Captain.Ichigo is soooo gonna lose to him.No Contest.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:40 pm
by Jimbob
Please. Hitsuguya is probably the most boring character out of the whole series. Damn his fangirls.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:37 pm
by haseoxth
Jimbob wrote:Please. Hitsuguya is probably the most boring character out of the whole series. Damn his fangirls.
.....WTF dude...Hitsuguya is like the awesomest thing to happen to BLEACH.EVER.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:27 am
by Jimbob
Ichigo is much cooler and manlier than Hitsuguya will ever be.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:03 am
by SnowManZero
Jimbob wrote:Ichigo is much cooler and manlier than Hitsuguya will ever be.


But it's hitsuguya.

You can't beat his awsomeness!!!

Also, can you get much cooler than having the most powerfull Ice/snow type Zanpaktou?

I don't think so!

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:50 pm
by haseoxth
Jimbob wrote:Ichigo is much cooler and manlier than Hitsuguya will ever be.
Hitsuguya has a hawt lutenient with giant jugs that can handle thier-i mean her own.Ichigo has a women with flat jugs and ghiant jugs that are always in need of rescuing...
Result:If Hitsuguya can keep a chick that kick ass own ass in line,while Ichigo cant,he WINS.

That and that awesome Hair.THE HAIR!!!

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:59 pm
by Jimbob
Man you all like him for such shallow superficial reasons. There's plenty of other characters like him in many other shows. He's not a main character anymore so he's clearly not gonna be as important as the leads.

Oh btw Rukia>Rangiku as recent manga chapters have shown.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:16 pm
by SnowManZero
Jimbob wrote:Oh btw Rukia>Rangiku as recent manga chapters have shown.


Oh Yes, I mean last time I checked the best way to be skinny as rukia is to be run through with a trident.

Definatly, she's beating rangiku in that department.

Jimbob wrote:Man you all like him for such shallow superficial reasons. There's plenty of other characters like him in many other shows. He's not a main character anymore so he's clearly not gonna be as important as the leads.


Perhap's you've not realised your own point of "Fan service sell's".

Look at mai hime-All the chick's in it are red smoking hot and it has quite a fan base. Now look at something without such a strong fanbase-You'll find very little fan service material.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:46 pm
by Kyero Fox
haseoxth wrote:
Jimbob wrote:Please. Hitsuguya is probably the most boring character out of the whole series. Damn his fangirls.
.....WTF dude...Hitsuguya is like the awesomest thing to happen to BLEACH.EVER.
Hes a noob captain who hasn't even mastered his Bankai 'OH YEA ICE DRAGON GO!!!!!!!!!" thats just boring... Ichigo can easly overpower Hitsuguya. THE HAIR OH THE HAIR! .. :lol:

this argument is invalid Hollow Ichigo >Ikkaku >Ichigo >>other characters> Chiche Hitsuguya

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:22 pm
by Vahn Staffear
Kyero Fox wrote: this argument is invalid Hollow Ichigo >Ikkaku >Ichigo >>other characters> Chiche Hitsuguya
Hitsuguya isn't that lame, he can't beat Ichigo but he shouldn't be last.
I should be

Ichigo > Hollow Ichigo > Ikkaku > Hitsuguya > Other characters with no screen time >Rukia

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:31 pm
by Kyero Fox
Vahn Staffear wrote:
Kyero Fox wrote: this argument is invalid Hollow Ichigo >Ikkaku >Ichigo >>other characters> Chiche Hitsuguya
Hitsuguya isn't that lame, he can't beat Ichigo but he shouldn't be last.
I should be

Ichigo > Hollow Ichigo > Ikkaku > Hitsuguya > Other characters with no screen time >Rukia
meh... hes an OK Character. but not as developed as Ikkaku or as cool :P

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:52 am
by SnowManZero
ok so apparently my "hitsuguya" arguement has not gotten through to pople yet.

1st off-He is a "child prodigy" in that he learned how to use his bankai within six year's where as normal people it take at least 10. Ichigo got the "konami code" and hacked his way into bankai.

2nd. Hitsuguya easily beat's luppi, the number 6 espada(on same level as grimmjaw) where as ichigo get's slapped around 5 times till sunday by grimjaw who hasn't even released his full power.

3rd-Ice dragon is over 9000 times better than ichigo.

4th-Hollow boy only lends his power to ichigo for 11(maybe a few more) seconds before it goes out the window. Toshiro can reform his bankai the instant it's broken.

5th-Hitsuguya is hardly cliche, especially when you compare him to ichigo.

6th-Hitsuguya's hair pwns ichigo's hair.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:15 am
by Jimbob
Vahn Staffear wrote:
Kyero Fox wrote: Ichigo > Hollow Ichigo > Ikkaku > Hitsuguya > Other characters with no screen time >Rukia
You just have to hate every character I like don't you. :(

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:28 am
by Kyero Fox
SnowManZero wrote:ok so apparently my "hitsuguya" arguement has not gotten through to pople yet.

1st off-He is a "child prodigy" in that he learned how to use his bankai within six year's where as normal people it take at least 10. Ichigo got the "konami code" and hacked his way into bankai.

2nd. Hitsuguya easily beat's luppi, the number 6 espada(on same level as grimmjaw) where as ichigo get's slapped around 5 times till sunday by grimjaw who hasn't even released his full power.

3rd-Ice dragon is over 9000 times better than ichigo.

4th-Hollow boy only lends his power to ichigo for 11(maybe a few more) seconds before it goes out the window. Toshiro can reform his bankai the instant it's broken.

5th-Hitsuguya is hardly cliche, especially when you compare him to ichigo.

6th-Hitsuguya's hair pwns ichigo's hair.
I lol'd Hitsuguya only had the advantage agenst Luppi beacuse of all the water and a surpise attack. Grimmjaw would litteraly **** over Hitsuguya if he didn't lose his arm hell even without his arm he would. Grimmjaw only lost the title #6 because of the loss of his arm. when he fights Ichigo with his arm restored his power Easly equals that of Visard Ichigo. Chad/Uryuu could beat him after their training

Hitsuguya isn't as bad ass as you think. His bankai is still immature because his a Kid. I wont spoil it now but **** hits the fan later. but Ichigo would win agenst him because he has more speed. His Ice attacks aren't fast enough to catch him. if Ichigo puts on the mask then Hitsuguya is finished

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:14 pm
by haseoxth
SnowManZero wrote:ok so apparently my "hitsuguya" arguement has not gotten through to pople yet.

1st off-He is a "child prodigy" in that he learned how to use his bankai within six year's where as normal people it take at least 10. Ichigo got the "konami code" and hacked his way into bankai.

2nd. Hitsuguya easily beat's luppi, the number 6 espada(on same level as grimmjaw) where as ichigo get's slapped around 5 times till sunday by grimjaw who hasn't even released his full power.

3rd-Ice dragon is over 9000 times better than ichigo.

4th-Hollow boy only lends his power to ichigo for 11(maybe a few more) seconds before it goes out the window. Toshiro can reform his bankai the instant it's broken.

5th-Hitsuguya is hardly cliche, especially when you compare him to ichigo.

6th-Hitsuguya's hair pwns ichigo's hair.
I agree whole heartedly with all of this.

And Kyero,Grimmjaww was demoted after losing the arm because of his disobedience.It was better than losing his life.
Luppi=Grimmy.
And remember how Chad got PWNd by...Oh I dunno...Number 5 while Ichigo is basically holding his own as hes not dead yet?(this has nothing to do with my Hitsuguya PWNage arguement.)
And Grimmy was on par with Vaizard Ichigo because he released.Thats it.
And how can a bankai be immature?That would make Ichigos immature as well,considering he hasnt had it for more than a month.And what **** hits the fan?
And F*ck speed.Hitsuguyas SHIKAI alone has a destructive radius of 3 miles(or like 30 kilometers something around there.....)If ichigo puts on the mask,Hitsuguya can freeze his ass and then smash him to pieces.
Deal with it.Badass Chibi Captain Rocks.
Image

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:48 pm
by Vahn Staffear
vahn staffear wrote:
SnowManZero wrote:2nd. Hitsuguya easily beat's luppi, the number 6 espada(on same level as grimmjaw) where as ichigo get's slapped around 5 times till sunday by grimjaw who hasn't even released his full power.
Luppi sucks and he's gay -_- Now Grimjaw is awesome he would bash luppi and Hitsuguya :p
SnowManZero wrote:4th-Hollow boy only lends his power to ichigo for 11(maybe a few more) seconds before it goes out the window. Toshiro can reform his bankai the instant it's broken.
Hitsuguya's bankai also has a time limit. It goes away when those three purple things melt away.
SnowManZero wrote:6th-Hitsuguya's hair pwns ichigo's hair.
True, he looks like Vergil from DMC 3 thats instant win :3

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:11 pm
by Kyero Fox
haseoxth wrote:
SnowManZero wrote:ok so apparently my "hitsuguya" arguement has not gotten through to pople yet.

1st off-He is a "child prodigy" in that he learned how to use his bankai within six year's where as normal people it take at least 10. Ichigo got the "konami code" and hacked his way into bankai.

2nd. Hitsuguya easily beat's luppi, the number 6 espada(on same level as grimmjaw) where as ichigo get's slapped around 5 times till sunday by grimjaw who hasn't even released his full power.

3rd-Ice dragon is over 9000 times better than ichigo.

4th-Hollow boy only lends his power to ichigo for 11(maybe a few more) seconds before it goes out the window. Toshiro can reform his bankai the instant it's broken.

5th-Hitsuguya is hardly cliche, especially when you compare him to ichigo.

6th-Hitsuguya's hair pwns ichigo's hair.
I agree whole heartedly with all of this.

And Kyero,Grimmjaww was demoted after losing the arm because of his disobedience.It was better than losing his life.
Luppi=Grimmy.
And remember how Chad got PWNd by...Oh I dunno...Number 5 while Ichigo is basically holding his own as hes not dead yet?(this has nothing to do with my Hitsuguya PWNage arguement.)
And Grimmy was on par with Vaizard Ichigo because he released.Thats it.
And how can a bankai be immature?That would make Ichigos immature as well,considering he hasnt had it for more than a month.And what **** hits the fan?
And F*ck speed.Hitsuguyas SHIKAI alone has a destructive radius of 3 miles(or like 30 kilometers something around there.....)If ichigo puts on the mask,Hitsuguya can freeze his ass and then smash him to pieces.
Deal with it.Badass Chibi Captain Rocks.
Image
Ichigo mastered his Bankai after the last match between him and His Hollow Self. Ichigo has to go Hollow to stand a chance agenst Grimmjaw. theres no way Chibi Capt could stand a chance in hell agenst Grimmjaw released or not. Later on Ichigo can ware his mask longer than 11seconds. any of the true Esparda's 1 could pwn Hitsuguya

Hes cool don't get me wrong but hes not the strongest. Gin could easly take him down as well.

oh and the **** that hits the fan? I won't tell because I don't know if you've read the manga.

I will spoil 1 thing. Mister Chibi Capt stars in the 2nd Bleach Movie.

Re: bleach toshiro vs ichigo

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:04 am
by GoZero
Ichigo. By alot. While Grimmjow did surprise attack Luppi, Lippi still died with only one attack after Grimmjow got his arm back. Even if you on par with them you won't win with one surprise attack, so Luppi isn't stronger or as strong as Grimmjow. He was likely given the position because he can attack multiple opponents with his 8 tentacles. So Grimmjow > Luppi. And if you remember Luppi did surprise attack Hitsugaya and he was hit pretty badly in full bankai and everything (even if Luppi was released), so an unreleased Grimmjow killed an unreleased Luppi, he could probably do the same if they were both released, and even if Hitsugaya beat Luppi, the difference in power there isn't as great as being able to defeat Grimmjow's released form. Grimmjow was stronger than Luppi, don't kid yourself about it. And I doubt Hitsugaya could beat him in a fight. Ichigo barely did. Therefore my common sense, Ichigo could beat Hitsugaya.

Does that make sense? I couldn't think of a good way of putting it.

Hmm... Ichigo > Grimmjow > Hitsugaya > Luppi

:)

Mostly the result of these "fights" are popularity contest. Hitsugaya is more popular than Ichigo, akin to Sasuke and Naruto. Therefore, more people vote for him.