The mystery of -COOH's class

[Master ZED]

-COOH's class should be obvious from her dialogue, but oddly enough, it's the opposite of what she'd have you believe. She talks about how Harvest Clerics don't have much defensive capability, and when you run into her on the field, -COOH claims to be "that weak Harvest Cleric" just before you help her.



But once she starts fighting, she doesn't wield a staff. She uses a grimoire, which would make her a Shadow Warlock.



Clearly, there's something awry here. But what actually is the problem? Does -COOH genuinely not know what she's talking about? Was this a fault of the writers, and if that's the case, which side of the pond was it made on? Maybe the truth is that someone simply gave her the wrong weapon, and the error is fixed after Rebirth. Does she even deserve the benefit of the doubt in the first place? She could just be a really bad PK, which is why you end up having to save the killer rather than her "victims."

Her script is fixated on her class, making this a notable oddity, so I have to ask what's up.

[Nukie]

I guess its possible that shes and Adept Rogue...but Im putting my money on the translators screwing up.

Also, isn't -COOH the one PKed by Bordeaux in the opening movies?

[Maaku]

I guess its possible that shes and Adept Rogue...

Can't be. The Cleric and Warlock classes are both worth three points.

[Red Frost]

She could just be a really bad PK, which is why you end up having to save the killer rather than her "victims."

Hunh, I'm not the only one who thought that a couple times. What if WE were the ones PKing... Anyway, I never would have noticed this before. Weird... Maybe she is just dumb. And nice Avvie, Yusuke rocks!

Also, isn't -COOH the one PKed by Bordeaux in the opening movies?

No, that's 1/2.

I thought it was -COOH, also. 1/2 has kitty ears (horns?) on her head. -COOH has the pointy hat. I'm gonna go check...
And yeah, it's -COOH (Or Henako, but I always figured it was -COOH). 1/2 might be one of the people who was already PKed. You see one body on the ground. Maybe it was her, because she talks about the "Red and Black" Adept Rogue that PKKed her killers, but didn't revive her...

[chosenofmana7]

Also, isn't -COOH the one PKed by Bordeaux in the opening movies?

No, that's 1/2.

I thought it was -COOH, also. 1/2 has kitty ears (horns?) on her head. -COOH has the pointy hat. I'm gonna go check...
And yeah, it's -COOH (Or Henako, but I always figured it was -COOH). 1/2 might be one of the people who was already PKed. You see one body on the ground. Maybe it was her, because she talks about the "Red and Black" Adept Rogue that PKKed her killers, but didn't revive her...

u guys can tell who's who? I always wondered that but never figured it out... Who were Bordeaux's lackies anyways?(They'll be seeing me in the arena)
btw, maybe, unless she's using 1st person referances she may just be sympathising with them... not in the mood to go out, find her and read her script...
If these characters are so memorible then they should give out their member adresses... I've been wanting Nogmung, Syake and Ninjato's member adresses after facing them in the arena... And I wanted Mastu's lacky's adresses... plus the Crusade guild's members...

[Red Frost]

u guys can tell who's who? I always wondered that but never figured it out... Who were Bordeaux's lackies anyways?(They'll be seeing me in the arena)

Well, some character models are very uncommon. Like, Mile. She's the only character who looks like her. (And I kinda like the outfit.) Other models are very hard to distinguish, for me.

Bordeaux's lackeys? The little guy is a Twin Blade named Negimaru. The big guy is an Edge Punisher named Grein.

And I'm happy with the Member Addresses we do get. Each character is unique looking, cept for Atoli and Shino. It would be nice if we got a better Adept Rogue than Matsu (Just Steam Gunner, F that!)

[chosenofmana7]

u guys can tell who's who? I always wondered that but never figured it out... Who were Bordeaux's lackies anyways?(They'll be seeing me in the arena)

Well, some character models are very uncommon. Like, Mile. She's the only character who looks like her. (And I kinda like the outfit.) Other models are very hard to distinguish, for me.

Bordeaux's lackeys? The little guy is a Twin Blade named Negimaru. The big guy is an Edge Punisher named Grein.

And I'm happy with the Member Addresses we do get. Each character is unique looking, cept for Atoli and Shino. It would be nice if we got a better Adept Rogue than Matsu (Just Steam Gunner, F that!)

I know grein and Negi, but the Tribal grappler and the second twin blace ect.

I don't know about the member adresses we get... A different Lord Partizan and Shadow Warlock would be nice, maybe the Chaotic PK's...
I agree on the Mastu thing, he really needs to use his Broad Sword or swap roles with Sophra and have him as the Adept Rouge(That'd be awsome)

[Maaku]

If someone with the Japanese version of the game can run into -COOH in both the Root Town and the area and get a screenshot of it, I could look at the Katakana and read it.

Edit:
DotHack Wiki says that -COOH is a Harvest Cleric from Moon Tree.
I still want to read that Katakana if anyone can get a screenshot, though.

[Red Frost]

I know grein and Negi, but the Tribal grappler and the second twin blace ect.

I don't know about the member adresses we get... A different Lord Partizan and Shadow Warlock would be nice, maybe the Chaotic PK's...
I agree on the Mastu thing, he really needs to use his Broad Sword or swap roles with Sophra and have him as the Adept Rouge(That'd be awsome)

Sophora would be awesome, even though I haven't played Vol. 2. And I don't know who else you're talking about who's affiliated with Bordeaux... And a different Lord Partizan would be neat. And too bad we don't get an Edge Punisher (Matsu doesn't count).

Also, I goofed. Mile is the only other character like that who runs around town. There's a pic of a Flicker with the same look on The World's Site, and another character like her in the Arena battles.

[Jimbob]

Um Sophora is like Matsu in that she only uses twin blades and never a staff (not that it would be useful in battle) As for an Edge Punisher yeah that would be useful, then Haseo could focus on another weapon. It's not like we need 7 Blade Brandiers (only 3 of which are really useful, the rest are dead weight) Hopefully the U.S. versions extra's may include Matsu getting to use Broadswords again (unlikely though)

[LegendaryDarkKnight]

Someone screwed up. Nice catch though.

[Baldazzar]

Just as a note, 1/2 has horns. Below them you can see her human ears. Like Zelkova and a few others actually, 1/2 is a small (almost childlike) human like character with horns. It is unknown if these are apart of the character creation or an item. While 1/2's horns are closer to gray or silver, Zelkova's are a bit bigger and gold. This is why some of the players talk about his horns being unusual.

[Master ZED]

maybe she was talking about mage classes in general like for example a cleric,i think she said something about adding a magical knight class

This is why I put pics in the initial post; the first one shows -COOH stating bluntly that shes a Harvest Cleric, which is proven "wrong" almost immediately when she draws her weapon back out. If you've got Imageshack thumbnails blocked for some reason, here are the direct URLs:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9770/coohtextwh6.png

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3081/l ... eitwv9.png

It'll be interesting to see if this is fixed in Reminisce next week. I highly doubt it, but glitches and bugs intrigue me, so -COOH's another reason to look forward to volume 2.

EDIT: Funny you should mention the magical knight. -COOH is the one who talks about it (pics on request):

"If only they'd add in a magic-warrior type job, I'd be so happy. A job where they'd have decent physical power, and decent magic power, would be so convenient. I hope they add one." "Wait a sec, that's an Adept Rogue!...Well, so much for that idea."

How ironic that she should mention the Adept Rogue....

[Ressic]

Clearly, -COOH proves that it's possible to use Shadow Warlock/Harvest Cleric as an Adept Rogue. Honestly, this "proof" is about as compelling as the part everyone points to when claiming you can't.


Could be a mis-translation, or someone goofed and assigned her the wrong weapon when they set up the non-party characters. Might also be possible that they set up her dialogue/apperance early on, and then changed some of the details for either the Cleric or Warlock class, and forgot to adjust her character after.


Maaku's got the right idea for trying to get a more conclusive answer. -COOH is in Moon Tree, so probably the best way to get the necessary screen shots is to go through the game without talking to anyone, until you get the address for Moon Tree's @Home. Once you can get in there, I believe -COOH can always be found there; talk to her, then you can use the players present guage at the warp gate to find an area she'll be in. (This is easiest if she's the only person you've spoken to)

[Ressic]

Well, the game won't let you equip weapons you can't use, so the only way that could be the character's mistake, is if she's mis-remembering which class she is.

[ME]

here's a thought, in that one scene that Yata shows Haseo the recording of AK attacking that group of player. We agaured about why AK did this for a while and at last we concluded that the members of this group were probably hackers and  AK was doing a simple debug and that brings up the question...what -CHOO in that group that got attacked? If so than this backs up the possiblity that -CHOO is a hacked multiweapon and therefore both a Harvest and Warlock at the same time. Ponder that one for few.[/ramble]

[Red Frost]

here's a thought, in that one scene that Yata shows Haseo the recording of AK attacking that group of player. We agaured about why AK did this for a while and at last we concluded that the members of this group were probably hackers and  AK was doing a simple debug and that brings up the question...what -CHOO in that group that got attacked? If so than this backs up the possiblity that -CHOO is a hacked multiweapon and therefore both a Harvest and Warlock at the same time. Ponder that one for few.[/ramble]

I kinda doubt that,  The movie could be just a fabrication made by Yata. I think it's just a goof. Both classes are quite similar. It's just taking the Wavemaster class, and splitting it into 2 categories... 3 if you count Dance Macabre.

[Bankai_Toushirou]

I like the idea that ME posted though. It makes sense, and gives the developers credit. Besides, this is a version in which hackers and PKers are dominant, so it's more than a possibility.