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About Xth form... (spoilers maybe)

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:31 pm
by Requiem
Can you still use all your other weapons, or just the dual guns? That one movie I saw with him in Xth form only shows the guns, and I think one scythe skill. So for all I know you only get the skills and not the weapons?

Dear god, I hope I'm wrong. I would hate losing the ability to use the lost scythe and the doppel weapons..

Re: About Xth form... (spoilers maybe)

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:34 pm
by TheSorrow
Requiem wrote:Can you still use all your other weapons, or just the dual guns? That one movie I saw with him in Xth form only shows the guns, and I think one scythe skill. So for all I know you only get the skills and not the weapons?

Dear god, I hope I'm wrong. I would hate losing the ability to use the lost scythe and the doppel weapons..
You can still use all the weapons. And weapon-change skill is still effective.
In that video (assuming it's the same one i saw), he used a Scythe skill, so his weapon automaticly changed to a scythe. However, right after that, he used Double Trigger, so he changed back to Dual Guns (Double Trigger allows to you do a 2nd skill during Skill Trigger, and that skill is always Judgement, and always done with Dual Guns)

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:36 pm
by Shirosaki
Well, I noticied it too, in the video he only uses other weapons skills, but if so, I think it means he can use his other weapons as well, if not there wouldn´t be meaning in using other weapons skills nor gaining Empty Skies from Azure Flame Kite

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:37 pm
by Requiem
Wow... that sounds really awesome. If you switch to judgement and you've used the skill trigger to do a rengeki, would the judgement count as a rengeki too?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:53 pm
by Nukasa
What's the point in using twin blades anymore?

The sword has heavy damage.

The scythe has long reach.

The guns have fast action, plus a long range.

What's the point in twin blades?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:04 pm
by Requiem
I would think that the only usage they'd have once you get Xth form is so you have a weapon slot to fill. I can kinda see how they'd be useless once you get guns.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:20 pm
by Dawn of the Warrior
Nukasa wrote:What's the point in using twin blades anymore?

The sword has heavy damage.

The scythe has long reach.

The guns have fast action, plus a long range.

What's the point in twin blades?
Twin blades has some sweet ass looking attacks. Add that with ur new white suit and its just pwnage

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:03 am
by Dualreact
Nukasa wrote:What's the point in using twin blades anymore?

The sword has heavy damage.

The scythe has long reach.

The guns have fast action, plus a long range.

What's the point in twin blades?
im sure you didn't notice the dopplganger in vol 3 aye?
if you even try to change to guns without the proper pattern, you will get yourself pwned,same for scythe, cuase there is a very long range attack for scythe.
and i do use dual blades, technically you can use whatever you wantm becuase of the double trigger.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:10 am
by Dawn of the Warrior
What happens when u use Avatar Awakening on the dopp? Will he die instantly like everything else?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:42 am
by Dualreact
Dawn of the Warrior wrote:What happens when u use Avatar Awakening on the dopp? Will he die instantly like everything else?
lol, you wish.
vol 3 dopp is harder then all the bosses, if you don't know the startgy how to kill him, he will pwn you hard, becuase of his mana shield.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:12 am
by Dawn of the Warrior
Mana shield? Is that another way of saying magical tolerance or something?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:59 am
by Ravaan
No. All damage dealt to him targets his MP/SP or whatever instead of his HP. You have to get rid of all his SP before you can deal damage to his HP.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:37 am
by Dualreact
TwilightFlash wrote:No. All damage dealt to him targets his MP/SP or whatever instead of his HP. You have to get rid of all his SP before you can deal damage to his HP.
not to forget he heals sp quite fast too

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:59 am
by Shirosaki
Dualreact wrote:
TwilightFlash wrote:No. All damage dealt to him targets his MP/SP or whatever instead of his HP. You have to get rid of all his SP before you can deal damage to his HP.
not to forget he heals sp quite fast too
Does it means he have a SP healing item? Like the Vigor Crystal, or he´s so strong that´s it´s natural for him?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:00 am
by Dualreact
Shirosaki wrote:
Dualreact wrote:
TwilightFlash wrote:No. All damage dealt to him targets his MP/SP or whatever instead of his HP. You have to get rid of all his SP before you can deal damage to his HP.
not to forget he heals sp quite fast too
Does it means he have a SP healing item? Like the Vigor Crystal, or he´s so strong that´s it´s natural for him?
prolly vigor crystal + fast reg.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:47 pm
by Dawn of the Warrior
Whoa... I hope they make him a bit easier if vol 3 comes out in america!

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:03 pm
by Requiem
Hell no, easy boss fights are a waste of time.

I'd rather fight a powerful doppleganger than a weak one. I just hope that they make him harder than the "beat awakening? My one weakness!" thing.

That was a bit TOO easy.

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:12 pm
by Exotahu
I have a question about the Xth Form

How do you get ammo? How does that work? I doubt that ammo for an illegal class would be sold in regular shops....

Do you reload? How do you aim?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:17 pm
by Dawn of the Warrior
I think it automatically reloads so the ammo thing is pretty pointless. I mean if it has endless ammo then why put a number for the ammo at all?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:36 pm
by Kuukai
Because if you try to fire when you're out of ammo, you end up with a pretty annoying delay, so you want to dash as you run out. Since you're aiming and moving, you have to move your eyes a lot to check the ammo gauge (or count). Using "cheat codes" (an ingame mod item) increases their ammo capacity.