Crap.... Haseo is.... (and other spoilers)

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:40 pm

Then it's equally possible that Sora and Haseo AREN'T the same person. It requires all sorts of ridiculous twists and turns in .hack's internal logic and common sense.

Like I said, if there was proof of the fact that Sora and Haseo were the same, it'd be in the games, not a supplemental book.

Post by **Kuukai** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:29 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Then it's equally possible that Sora and Haseo AREN'T the same person. It requires all sorts of ridiculous twists and turns in .hack's internal logic and common sense.

Like I said, if there was proof of the fact that Sora and Haseo were the same, it'd be in the games, not a supplemental book.

As long as it's possible, though, they're allowed to do it. It doesn't matter if it doesn't seem very likely, it's fiction. There's no real contradiction here, aside from his appearances in Unison (which doesn't quite seem to be canon) and Udeden (ok, this is a problem, but half the other people appearing at the end make no sense either). That might all be the work of Net Slum Sora, though...

Of all the new-name cameos, Yata is the only one who's specifically confirmed by the games. And even that is sorta subtle. The games are made so that anyone can enjoy them, and that's presumably why they didn't go into history too much. Moreover, if this is true, how the heck would that come into play in the games? Haseo doesn't remember anything, and as plenty of people have pointed out, his personality is way too different for anyone to recognize him. There's no conceivable way they could work it in, except maybe as some sort of inner-mind reconciliation with his past self... Oh...

The amnesia thing is ridiculous, but not much more than half the other stuff in .hack... I mean, they beat Cubia, all bets are off. This will never bother me more than Mireille.

Asukai wrote:I don't want to think that Haseo is Sora or maybe he kind of like 'Sakubo'?. Split mind so one part forgot...but yeah this is a shocker to me...but yeah I well except it if it ture but I hope it a rumor...I hope...

Possibly something like that...

CRtwenty · Post by **CRtwenty** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:32 am

I'm sorry, but unless it's specifically stated in the game or a direct source (not some unreliable fanbook) that Haseo is Sora. I'm not going to believe it. There's a lot of crazy theories out there, but this one takes the cake.

Ravaan · Post by **Ravaan** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:02 am

a great big suicide cake....

It's not that I'm against Sora being Haseo *COUGH*, but I was all for having brand new characters in G.U.

Oh well, I'll just have to shut up and take it like a b****

Maive · Post by **Maive** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:27 am

I feel sorry for whoever is Gabi's patient.

*Gabi walks in* "I'M YOUR DOCTOR! : D!"

I hope Haseo isn't Sora as there are WAY too many old R:1 characters walking around now. They're like playing with their old friends without even realizing.

I'm just gonna wait for all the theories to stop, what's next? Atoli = Terajima Ryoko? I'm just gonna wait and see if any are confirmed before I go mental.

Dragoon2044 · Post by **Dragoon2044** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:20 pm

I understand what you mean, it's just. Sora = creepy little kid in SIGN that picked up older women, and I DO NOT want to think of Haseo having been like that. EVER. D: Besides, if Sora was into BT before, then why the hell would he call Pi an old hag? O_o

actually Sora targeted any female character in general. it wasn't that he was targeting older women. of course looking for information would be different. it doesn't matter who you are.

i don't understand why people are complaing about Haseo being Sora. it doesn't bother me honestly.

The Azure Wind · Post by **The Azure Wind** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:25 pm

I hope Haseo isn't Sora as there are WAY too many old R:1 characters walking around now. They're like playing with their old friends without even realizing.

I'm just gonna wait for all the theories to stop, what's next? Atoli = Terajima Ryoko? I'm just gonna wait and see if any are confirmed before I go mental.[/quote]

You have to remeber sora was a little abnoish kid back then he could have matuer after getting out of the coma it is possible but not likely

IF Atoli Was Terajima Ryoko I would drop tabby in a heartbeat to bad though Terajima Ryoko was 16 back in IMOQ so that would make her 23 during GU Atoli like what 15 now

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:25 pm

¬_¬ I don't know how many times I've had to mention this but...

Sora didn't specialise in attacking women, that was just a joke made up by Bear. Sora's attack pattern was much more random, or he wouldn't have attacked Tsukasa, would he?

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:16 pm

The source for this is confirmed to be .hack//G.U. Vol.3 Aruku You Na Hayasa De - The Master Guide, if anyone cares. You can get it from Amazon.

Wan · Post by **Wan** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:23 pm

Well that was one interesting revelation. Does that book include what happens to the other characters like Blackrose and Orca?

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:28 pm

No, but the .hack//G.U. Perfect Guidebook coming out March 22nd claims it will explain all the mysteries of all the characters and events. If anything does, that will...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:11 pm

As long as it's possible, though, they're allowed to do it. It doesn't matter if it doesn't seem very likely, it's fiction. There's no real contradiction here, aside from his appearances in Unison (which doesn't quite seem to be canon) and Udeden (ok, this is a problem, but half the other people appearing at the end make no sense either). That might all be the work of Net Slum Sora, though...

Unison is canon unless you can prove to me it isn't.

Of all the new-name cameos, Yata is the only one who's specifically confirmed by the games. And even that is sorta subtle. The games are made so that anyone can enjoy them, and that's presumably why they didn't go into history too much. Moreover, if this is true, how the heck would that come into play in the games? Haseo doesn't remember anything, and as plenty of people have pointed out, his personality is way too different for anyone to recognize him. There's no conceivable way they could work it in, except maybe as some sort of inner-mind reconciliation with his past self... Oh...

Then why make the connection at all? It only causes problems and doesn't explain anything.

The amnesia thing is ridiculous, but not much more than half the other stuff in .hack... I mean, they beat Cubia, all bets are off. This will never bother me more than Mireille.

What's so ridiculous about beating Cubia?

i don't understand why people are complaing about Haseo being Sora. it doesn't bother me honestly.

Aside from all the plot points it butchers?

Post by **Kuukai** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:29 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Unison is canon unless you can prove to me it isn't.

Blackrose's email makes it seem iffy, but that's all I've got...

AuraTwilight wrote:Then why make the connection at all? It only causes problems and doesn't explain anything.

I disagree that it causes problems, but I agree that there was zero reason to do it and it fits very, very awkwardly into the plot.

AuraTwilight wrote:What's so ridiculous about beating Cubia?

He's your shadow. You can't just beat up your shadow and make it go away. They pretty much threw out the golden rule of anti-existences.

AuraTwilight wrote:Aside from all the plot points it butchers?

Like what? There already was a random Sora AI in the games, and memory loss is possible. It's hard to swallow, but actually less so than the Taihaku=Balmung thing, and no one had trouble with that... The personality difference is almost completely explained by the difference in being 10 years old and 17...

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:02 pm

Zer0 wrote:
Kuukai wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:What's so ridiculous about beating Cubia?
He's your shadow. You can't just beat up your shadow and make it go away. They pretty much threw out the golden rule of anti-existences.
LOL PETER PAN.

What??? Peter Pan had an anti-existence???
Well... no one said Cubia will re-appear...
the eternal enemy... what a cliche...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:40 pm

He's your shadow. You can't just beat up your shadow and make it go away. They pretty much threw out the golden rule of anti-existences.

For all we know, it's Haseo's special power as the "Terror of Death" or something.

Shirosaki · Post by **Shirosaki** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:46 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:
He's your shadow. You can't just beat up your shadow and make it go away. They pretty much threw out the golden rule of anti-existences.
For all we know, it's Haseo's special power as the "Terror of Death" or something.

Wow... Apocalypse must be coming because even AT is uncertain... but still, it´s the best theory about it so far.

DarkChaos · Post by **DarkChaos** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:54 pm

Can't you all just wait until the game comes out?

Read a book or something.

Haseo isn't Sora.
Atoli isn't Shino

This should be called the "rumor" board because that is all that's here is rumors that are full of crap and people who think they can read japanese when they really can't! While also thinking that everyone else here can read japanses also. I mean I can, and I know that it doesn't say Haseo is Sora.

Taiga · Post by **Taiga** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:56 pm

Wander wrote:
Rick wrote:Wow... Apocalypse must be coming because even AT is uncertain... but still, it´s the best theory about it so far.

Poor AT. Always expected to be right.

Anyways...rawr but im nice wen im in bare form

Well, even if there's cliches, that's the only thing there is. The only way for something to be truly original is if it had nothing in it ever used before.

You see?

AuraTwilight shall never be wrong! It just will not happen! EVER!

Osamu · Post by **Osamu** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:58 pm

Taiga wrote:
Wander wrote:
Rick wrote:Wow... Apocalypse must be coming because even AT is uncertain... but still, it´s the best theory about it so far.

Poor AT. Always expected to be right.

Anyways...rawr but im nice wen im in bare form

Well, even if there's cliches, that's the only thing there is. The only way for something to be truly original is if it had nothing in it ever used before.

You see?
AuraTwilight shall never be wrong! It just will not happen! EVER!

Pheer the new cult - AuraTwilightintologists

death angel · Post by **death angel** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:59 pm

it would be cool that Sora was Haseo.