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But how did that happen I wonder.
Since Morganna's recurrection was failed I wonder where or whom she get's the books. Ovan wouldn't be doing that now, would he?

They just pop in there. Even if Morganna's AI isn't there, there should still be the system that funnels and gathers data. There's just no AI (like the Sleeping Aura) to funnel it into.

If Eina/Aina is really the new A.I., how did she even appear without Morganna like being. I suppose there are always a way for everything to happen but still it makes me wonder.

The failed RA Plan was when seven of the Phases linked together for a brief time, and for that brief moment, Morganna was like, [randomfigure]91%[/randomfigure] operational.

Yes and no.
I think that there will probably be references to Aura,probably about Eina,but I doubt she will actually show herself in vol 3 physically...mabye she will be in flashbacks....i can understand if there is alot of those about the first 4 games.

I know a lot of people are saying aura will not come back, but as i thought about it today, almost every .hack story (manga, anime, novel has been connected to her somehow)

AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

I just can't see after all this that aura would not come back, becasue it would kind of void out every other series to date (execpt other GU related series, and zero (just becasue all i know is it has something to do with sora)

AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

GU: Quest to create a substitute of Aura

Well, to sum up almost everything in the series is about(or will be about) Aura and her importance in the world, it wouldn´t be surprising if she returns in the end of GU, but that can also make spectatives for other plots that will most likely to come if there will be a continuation.

TheSorrow wrote:AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

GU: Quest to create a substitute of Aura

thats just my point, GU seems to be voiding every other .hack event. Sign built off of AI buster, the Games built off sign, LOTB built off of the games. GU is tearing down all of those.

umm....did you see the PVs,read the last few pages of the thread,or see the Terminal Disk?When Aura went poof...they tried to create another Ultimate AI...the avatars came in to complete morganna,she was suppose ot give birth to an AI.Plan went wrong no AI was created...maybe...*coffsAINAcough*GU is about the resurrection of the new Ultimate AI...not about Aura...the others too were basically about the Ultimate AI.

Tri-Edge999 wrote:

TheSorrow wrote:AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

GU: Quest to create a substitute of Aura

thats just my point, GU seems to be voiding every other .hack event. Sign built off of AI buster, the Games built off sign, LOTB built off of the games. GU is tearing down all of those.

Not exactly, its just a different story, a different world.
And it makes sense if you put The End of The World between LotTB and GU
In a way, its still about Aura

TheSorrow wrote:

Tri-Edge999 wrote:

TheSorrow wrote:AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

GU: Quest to create a substitute of Aura

thats just my point, GU seems to be voiding every other .hack event. Sign built off of AI buster, the Games built off sign, LOTB built off of the games. GU is tearing down all of those.

Not exactly, its just a different story, a different world.
And it makes sense if you put The End of The World between LotTB and GU
In a way, its still about Aura

if its not really about Aura...just the creation of the ultimate AI...and i just had a thought....anybody think Amagi is Ovan....

haseoxth wrote:

TheSorrow wrote:

Tri-Edge999 wrote:

TheSorrow wrote:AI Buster: about a prototype for aura

Sign: quest to get aura to wake up

The games: quest for aura to be born

LOTB: quest to see Aura's growth

GU: Quest to create a substitute of Aura

thats just my point, GU seems to be voiding every other .hack event. Sign built off of AI buster, the Games built off sign, LOTB built off of the games. GU is tearing down all of those.

Not exactly, its just a different story, a different world.
And it makes sense if you put The End of The World between LotTB and GU
In a way, its still about Aura

if its not really about Aura...just the creation of the ultimate AI...and i just had a thought....anybody think Amagi is Ovan....

It has a connection to Aura, being both Ultimate AIs
That or i need to sleep more so i can think better on what i say. lol

If Amagi is Ovan, i would highly wonder how he got his brain back (and it can't be an AI, because Ovan exists like normal in real life......almost normal)

Amagi doesn't have the compassion to be the fatherly figure Aina probably inteprets him as.

Also, Lycoris wasn't an Aura Prototype.

I really don't think either Aura will be back or Aina will become the new Ultimate AI. Aina said it herself, that she would also return to the "wind"... I really want to think that there will be a different conclusion than to simply look for substitutes, i mean, even if Aina becomes a godess, she will be linked to the main problem that being "goddess" represents (or great powers), the law of "cause and effect" (Anti-Existence)... I think G.U. is a bit more than Aina, and just that... and the key to find that, may be Ovan or Haseo (the last one, i really don't think so, but probably)

And maybe AuraTwilight's theory is correct, and that would explain why Aina seems uncomplete, but not so uncomplete, because there was a Dummy Program created by Amagi to replace the 7th Phase, Tarvos that was taken away by Banshoya Jun.

Xanathos wrote:I really don't think either Aura will be back or Aina will become the new Ultimate AI. Aina said it herself, that she would also return to the "wind"... I really want to think that there will be a different conclusion than to simply look for substitutes, i mean, even if Aina becomes a godess, she will be linked to the main problem that being "goddess" represents (or great powers), the law of "cause and effect" (Anti-Existence)... I think G.U. is a bit more than Aina, and just that... and the key to find that, may be Ovan or Haseo (the last one, i really don't think so, but probably)

And maybe AuraTwilight's theory is correct, and that would explain why Aina seems uncomplete, but not so uncomplete, because there was a Dummy Program created by Amagi to replace the 7th Phase, Tarvos that was taken away by Banshoya Jun.

Do you mean something like, instead we end up with another Ultimate AI that will follow Aura's step, we have an ending where there is no Ultimate AI, but everything's fixed and even better then back with Aura??

TheSorrow wrote:

Xanathos wrote:I really don't think either Aura will be back or Aina will become the new Ultimate AI. Aina said it herself, that she would also return to the "wind"... I really want to think that there will be a different conclusion than to simply look for substitutes, i mean, even if Aina becomes a godess, she will be linked to the main problem that being "goddess" represents (or great powers), the law of "cause and effect" (Anti-Existence)... I think G.U. is a bit more than Aina, and just that... and the key to find that, may be Ovan or Haseo (the last one, i really don't think so, but probably)

And maybe AuraTwilight's theory is correct, and that would explain why Aina seems uncomplete, but not so uncomplete, because there was a Dummy Program created by Amagi to replace the 7th Phase, Tarvos that was taken away by Banshoya Jun.

Do you mean something like, instead we end up with another Ultimate AI that will follow Aura's step, we have an ending where there is no Ultimate AI, but everything's fixed and even better then back with Aura??

If that happens there wouldn´t be any meaning to Ovan´s effort in teaching her for such a long time, if she would do nothing in the end, and as TheSorrow wrote the problem would be solved, but the next ones wouldn´t and as far as I´m corcened (almost)everything in .Hack is about the Ultimate A.I.

Rick wrote:

TheSorrow wrote:

Xanathos wrote:I really don't think either Aura will be back or Aina will become the new Ultimate AI. Aina said it herself, that she would also return to the "wind"... I really want to think that there will be a different conclusion than to simply look for substitutes, i mean, even if Aina becomes a godess, she will be linked to the main problem that being "goddess" represents (or great powers), the law of "cause and effect" (Anti-Existence)... I think G.U. is a bit more than Aina, and just that... and the key to find that, may be Ovan or Haseo (the last one, i really don't think so, but probably)

And maybe AuraTwilight's theory is correct, and that would explain why Aina seems uncomplete, but not so uncomplete, because there was a Dummy Program created by Amagi to replace the 7th Phase, Tarvos that was taken away by Banshoya Jun.

Do you mean something like, instead we end up with another Ultimate AI that will follow Aura's step, we have an ending where there is no Ultimate AI, but everything's fixed and even better then back with Aura??

If that happens there wouldn´t be any meaning to Ovan´s effort in teaching her for such a long time, if she would do nothing in the end, and as TheSorrow wrote the problem would be solved, but the next ones wouldn´t and as far as I´m corcened (almost)everything in .Hack is about the Ultimate A.I.

Agreed on that final part. Ever since Fragment, The World was created for giving birth to the Ultimate AI; that is the objective of The World. Harald was just that insane and depressed when Emma died.

I really don't think either Aura will be back or Aina will become the new Ultimate AI. Aina said it herself, that she would also return to the "wind"...

Zefie said that. We've never even heard Aina speak.

I really want to think that there will be a different conclusion than to simply look for substitutes, i mean, even if Aina becomes a godess, she will be linked to the main problem that being "goddess" represents (or great powers), the law of "cause and effect" (Anti-Existence)... I think G.U. is a bit more than Aina, and just that... and the key to find that, may be Ovan or Haseo (the last one, i really don't think so, but probably)

And maybe AuraTwilight's theory is correct, and that would explain why Aina seems uncomplete, but not so uncomplete, because there was a Dummy Program created by Amagi to replace the 7th Phase, Tarvos that was taken away by Banshoya Jun.

That's actually a really good point. I'd be satisfied if Aina is given an oppurtunity to become the Goddess, and she turns her back and is like "No, because then the cycle will just keep repeating."

Or maybe it's in Haseo's hands to give Aina her Goddess status and he's like "Mankind doesn't need a god."

Do you mean something like, instead we end up with another Ultimate AI that will follow Aura's step, we have an ending where there is no Ultimate AI, but everything's fixed and even better then back with Aura??

The Republic of Heaven. Instead of serving a God, mankind will fend for itself and build it's own future, without relying on a higher power.

If that happens there wouldn´t be any meaning to Ovan´s effort in teaching her for such a long time, if she would do nothing in the end, and as TheSorrow wrote the problem would be solved, but the next ones wouldn´t and as far as I´m corcened (almost)everything in .Hack is about the Ultimate A.I.

Of course there'd be meaning. Just because she doesn't become the Ultimate AI doesn't mean she shouldn't learn anything. Assuming Aina doesn't become the Ultimate AI, she'll probably continue living with Ovan, and Ovan, Shino, and Aina can be the happy family Harald and Emma were denied.

Agreed on that final part. Ever since Fragment, The World was created for giving birth to the Ultimate AI; that is the objective of The World. Harald was just that insane and depressed when Emma died.

But Za Warudo has become so much more. It's now a place where people can come together and where new life besides the Ultimate AI can be born. Saying The World HAS to remain a womb for the Ultimate AI means that Mia's, Lycoris's, Rumor's, Rin's, Zefie's, and Tartarga's lives were ALL meaningless. And .hack's main theme is that no life is without value.

AuraTwilight wrote:The Republic of Heaven. Instead of serving a God, mankind will fend for itself and build it's own future, without relying on a higher power.

Of course there'd be meaning. Just because she doesn't become the Ultimate AI doesn't mean she shouldn't learn anything. Assuming Aina doesn't become the Ultimate AI, she'll probably continue living with Ovan, and Ovan, Shino, and Aina can be the happy family Harald and Emma were denied.

But Za Warudo has become so much more. It's now a place where people can come together and where new life besides the Ultimate AI can be born. Saying The World HAS to remain a womb for the Ultimate AI means that Mia's, Lycoris's, Rumor's, Rin's, Zefie's, and Tartarga's lives were ALL meaningless. And .hack's main theme is that no life is without value.

That enough explains the real meaning of The World (truth behind the truth) and a very good ending that i might expect to see
o.O You > CC Corp

TheSorrow wrote:

AuraTwilight wrote:The Republic of Heaven. Instead of serving a God, mankind will fend for itself and build it's own future, without relying on a higher power.

Of course there'd be meaning. Just because she doesn't become the Ultimate AI doesn't mean she shouldn't learn anything. Assuming Aina doesn't become the Ultimate AI, she'll probably continue living with Ovan, and Ovan, Shino, and Aina can be the happy family Harald and Emma were denied.

But Za Warudo has become so much more. It's now a place where people can come together and where new life besides the Ultimate AI can be born. Saying The World HAS to remain a womb for the Ultimate AI means that Mia's, Lycoris's, Rumor's, Rin's, Zefie's, and Tartarga's lives were ALL meaningless. And .hack's main theme is that no life is without value.

That enough explains the real meaning of The World (truth behind the truth) and a very good ending that i might expect to see
o.O You > CC Corp

Well that´s true afteall, humanity can´t bow to anything, and certanly mustn´t depend on anything, that´s probably a lesson, that humans have to figure out how to solve the problems they cause(even in this case the AIDA was created by something, or someone), internet isn´t full of spams and virus because of computers, but because of humans that create them.
Detail: if the cause of AIDA was found can someone tell me, thanks.

man...why do i have the feeling now that Aina might make that self sacrifice needed to become the Ultimate Ai....or maybe ovan stops her..

haseoxth wrote:man...why do i have the feeling now that Aina might make that self sacrifice needed to become the Ultimate Ai....or maybe ovan stops her..

If she is Aura's replacement, which is most likely at this point, then the past could possibly repeat itself and she probably will. It's not a bad thought...