New Kingdom Hearts Film! (I think...)

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Thu May 31, 2007 11:46 am

Sorry but laysh will have to over focus on it. Its over focusing on it that made me guess all the way through kh2 with just 2 new ansem reports and the deep dive. Plus Nomura likes/wants it when people try and think on it and I think its real fun to do it ^-^ .

The knights could come back to life if you play the maleficent card by someone remembering them though I expect rules on how that works. If you need a piece of clothing that they wore then we already know where some of there armor is. Aqua- Raident Garden, Ven- Castle Oblivion, Terra- King Mickey's Castle (My guess on who is being stored at Castle Oblivion and if one is at King Mickey's castle. I just think Terra is there by why thats were you fought him.)

Haseo-Skaith · Post by **Haseo-Skaith** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:22 am

As far as I know there isn't much info on Sora and Rikue's parents. We know that Sora's mother is at Destiny Islands since we do hear her voice in KH1 before the heartless attack.

If 2 of the knights are Sora's and Rikue's fathers then it could be that they sent their wives and children, who were most likely still babies, to Destiny Islands to keep them safe. And probably closed to doorway from their end to keep whoever might want to hurt their families from being able to follow.

But the door on Destiny Islands side was probably still accessible from other worlds. Which would explain how Kairie got there. Someone fleeing from Radiant Guarden/Hollow Bastion could have broaght her there then they could have closed that door and it stayed closed tell KH1 started.

But another thing I'm wondering. If the keyblades the knights were using were fakes then how were they able to pick up the real ones? I mean if they aren't keyblade masters then how could they hold 1 without it disapearing right away? I mean the keyblade is rather fickle about who it lets hold it. Or is it that there are people who can just hold keyblades, but can't summon one at will?

What about the one that we see break when it was frozen had lost its power? I mean when that balk headed guy froze one of the nights he could also have drained away his power and the power of his keyblade. Without its power the keyblade would be nothing more than just another peice of metal and would have shattered like any other peice of frozen metal. And it might explain how that bald guy was able to create the energy ball that summoned Kingdom Hearts.

Darrcyphfeid · Post by **Darrcyphfeid** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:00 am

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Haseo-Skaith · Post by **Haseo-Skaith** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:57 am

Some very good points.

But also someone holding a Keyblade might be dependent on the persons heart. I mean when Leon picked up Sora's keyblade after he woke up it automatically disapeared and re-apeared in Sora's hand. At that time Sora didn't understand what it really was, nor had he figured out that he could summon it with a thought. Plus Leon's heart was full of guilt and anger over loosing his world. These were probably things a Keyblade wouldn't like.

Also when Sora handed his Keyblade to Jack Sparrow he knew it would automatically return to him. So he had no problem handing it over to him since he knew that most likey Jack didn't have what it took to weild a keyblade. Probably because his heart was full of greed and desire for power. Again things that a Keyblade wouldn't like.

As for Kairie I'm not sure if she's another Keyblade Master or if her heart was pure enough that a keyblade would let her weild it. We see Riku hand her a Keyblade. But we never see her actually summoning one.

And I would bet that another Keyblade Master could hold someone elses Keyblade. So Riku being able to take Sora's Keyblade shouldn't be a surprise. And it could be that Riku himself hadn't figured out yet that he could call his own keyblade and thought that Sora's was the only one.

The Keyblades deffinitly seem to be alive and chooses who it lets weild it. And like any other living being a Keyblade could be good or evil. So some evil Keyblades could have chosen baldy and his friend. And I wouldn't be surprised if the keychains do act like a battery pack of sorts. Giving the keyblade extra power as well as chainging its form. So I guess a keyblade probably wouldn't live for very long without a keychain. So without a keychain a kayblade might start to show signs of wear and tear. But the keychains probably give it enough power to be able to heal itself.

And as for the knights age. Well with video games you can never be 100% sure what their age is just by looking at them. Take FF9 for example. The two main characters in it look like they're probably around 10 or 12. But in actuality they are in their late teens or early twenties. So the knights could be in their early twenties for all we know. So they could be old enough to be Sora's and Riku's fathers. But there's no way to be 100% sure.

As with anything in this threat its all theory and speculation. So until something official is released this is all we have to go on.

Haseo-Skaith · Post by **Haseo-Skaith** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:16 am

Plus there's no way to be sure if there isn't a 3rd way to travel from world to world. It could be that there's a Light Passage that works similarly to the Dark Corridors in that you can enter a world without breaking down its barrior. And it might be possible to close those passages from one end and just cut the connection from one world to another but not to the other worlds.

Like you might be able to cut the connection between Destiny Islands and Radiant Garden but still be able to travel to Destiny Islands from Wonderland. Like you have to go from Point A to Point B, but the road is blocked, but you have a clear path to Point C and Point C has a clear path to Point B. So you have to go from Point A to Point C to get to Point B. Just as an example.

So if Ansem the Wise sent Kairie to Destiny Island through a Light Corridor then he could have cut the connection afterward to keep Zeonort from following.

Since Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 had 2 different modes of travel then a 3rd one might be introduced in the next game. Kind of like how in KH1 you only had to deal with the Heartless. But in KH2 you had to deal with the Nobodies as well as the Heartless. So the 3rd game might have a new type of enemy to deal with.

Darrcyphfeid · Post by **Darrcyphfeid** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:49 am

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haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:35 pm

Darrcyphfeid wrote:
As for Kairie I'm not sure if she's another Keyblade Master or if her heart was pure enough that a keyblade would let her weild it. We see Riku hand her a Keyblade. But we never see her actually summoning one.
Technically, she's not a Keyblade Master. She's a Princess of Heart, so she's above a normal person in terms of connections with the Keyblades, but she hasn't been given her own yet. The more important question there, is where Riku acquired a second Keyblade to begin with, though.

In the KH novels,when Kairi asked Riku where he got the Keyblade,he said :"Something in the back of my mind triggered,like a distant memory,and it appeared before me."Nomura stated that these books are part of the main sotry,just things that couldnt have been added to the game.

So without a keychain a kayblade might start to show signs of wear and tear. But the keychains probably give it enough power to be able to heal itself.

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A keyblade with a keychain is a treu Keyblade,and they cannot be broken.Without one,its just a hunk of metal.Take Vens for example,after being frozen,and dropped of a mountain,the Keyblade he was holding broken.

The*true*Terror Of Death · Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:08 pm

its as simple as this, kh series is getting alittle more mature, i think.

Darrcyphfeid · Post by **Darrcyphfeid** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:45 am

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Duo602 · Post by **Duo602** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:30 pm

Darrcyphfeid wrote:The simple fact that we don't know what a Keyblade really is was the entire point.

If I recall correctly in the first Kingdom Hearts, Riku's keyblade (the one he has once he is possessed by "Ansem") was formed by the seven princesses of heart and later dissapeared and become nothing after Sora finally released Kairi's heart from within him along with the other princesses. Looking at this kind put me up with the guess that keyblades could possibly be formed from people's hearts and maybe emotions. Its either that or keyblades were formed perhaps by something...

As for the keyblade war, what do you think it could be? A war between those hearts full "good" and those full of "evil"? A struggle that was originally for something valuable (such as an all-powerful keyblade or something)?

I know my guess about keyblades is rather flawed but its just something that happened to occur to me...

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:39 am

My guess is that the Keyblade War was between"good" and "evil".Or a war to prove power to the Keyblade in hopes that it would have chosen a weilder....

Darrcyphfeid · Post by **Darrcyphfeid** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:46 am

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Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:01 am

The man himself seems rather old and wise, yet he himself had a keyblade and a servant holding a keyblade himself.

There must have been a connection from Xenahort and the Old man considering Xena's heartless copied the old man's clothing. The amnesia Xenahort could have had...maybe he was the person in the other armor that served the old man? Considering he had Amnesia he wouldn't have remembered how to summon a keyblade and it would explain the clothing. But that's rather...far fetched.

Also, Kingdom Hearts is supposed to have the ultimate wisdom within it so it would give the old man a reason to go for it, but at the same time Heartless and other creatures are always waiting behind the works.

My point, it's rather idiotic to have a battle within each other instead of dealing with heartless and other things. Whatever Organization these Chasers or keyblade warriors have seems to have broken rather easily.

Darrcyphfeid · Post by **Darrcyphfeid** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:29 am

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Haseo-Skaith · Post by **Haseo-Skaith** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:41 am

We really do need more info on just what a Keyblade really is and where they come from.

Maybe the Princess Keyblade is a clue as to how they're made. In the case of the Princess Keyblade it was created by taking the princess's hearts by force. That would explain why it was imperfect. Because they weren't willing participants.

Maybe a true keyblade is made when someone willingly gives their heart to create it.

Also if someone willingly gave their heart for such a cause then most likey side effects like a Heartless or a Nobody being created wouldn't happen. Or maybe something different would occure.

Remember they made it clear in both games that Heartless and Nobodies are created when someone gives in to darkness. But what if you gave yourself to light? Just as when someone gives themselfs to darkness and a heartless is created, then maybe when you give yourself to light then maybe a keyblade is created. Kind of like 2 sides of a coin. Then maybe some opposit version of a nobody would be created as well.

Then again maybe it takes more than just a heart to create a Keyblade. maybe it takes Heart, Body, and Soul/mind to create something as powerfull as a true keyblade.

I just hope that the next game might answere some of these questions.

laysh · Post by **laysh** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:46 am

Nomura will probably tell us more about the keyblade in the next game after all he said he hasnt' shown us the destructive side of the keyblade either.