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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:36 am
by Jimbob
It was just a to be continued kind of thing.

As for Orca and Balmung, what ever happened with their classes? Are they Edge punishers with odd stances or what? The site said they were but theie weapons and battle stances say otherwise.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:07 am
by Bulletcatcher
Jimbob wrote:It was just a to be continued kind of thing.

As for Orca and Balmung, what ever happened with their classes? Are they Edge punishers with odd stances or what? The site said they were but theie weapons and battle stances say otherwise.
They're Blade Brandiers. The official site was wrong.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:08 pm
by Jimbob
That's kind of disapointing actually. I mean thats way unbalanced. So that means you get zero Edge Punisher party members except for Haseo(who doesn't really count as he's a rogue)

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:01 pm
by AuraTwilight
Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can kinda hear at least AFK saying skill names... Sounds sorta creepy. Aura says that they are "knights born to protect her", but since she's sleeping now, she'll give them to you, so you'll have more power to use to save peoples when/if the times comes.
If Aura created them, then I guess they're not the TSN system.

Red Herring, then?
Also, AIDA seem to be a result of what Aura kept saying about players deciding the future with their thoughts, and about the power of Haseo's thoughts bringing back Ovan. It seems that the AIDA were caused by players' hopes and despairs, or something, according to Shino at least...
HA! I WAS RIGHT!

AGAIN!

Though this begs the question. If they're born from the emotions of the players, does this mean more can be created?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:07 pm
by Eden Prosper
AuraTwilight wrote: Though this begs the question. If they're born from the emotions of the players, does this mean more can be created?
And hence what would lead fans to believe another spawn in the .hack universe. After I played this (well... I still can't beat Painful Forest D:< I'm killing all monsters without leaving >.> so far lvl 52) and that scene occured, I'm wondering whether the AIDA will return or perhaps something else. Perhaps something else summoned by difference emotions other than despair.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:21 pm
by Ryokugun2
Eden Prosper wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote: Though this begs the question. If they're born from the emotions of the players, does this mean more can be created?
And hence what would lead fans to believe another spawn in the .hack universe. After I played this (well... I still can't beat Painful Forest D:< I'm killing all monsters without leaving >.> so far lvl 52) and that scene occured, I'm wondering whether the AIDA will return or perhaps something else. Perhaps something else summoned by difference emotions other than despair.
Well, [The World] is a computerized game, where you can't expect anything. An example being the weird as hell smile you get from AO when you propose to him, also Chim Chim's. Those suckers are examples themselves. What I mean is, is that if AIDA can be created by character emotions, who says they can't be created by CPU's in the game? ...mabye not ^_^;;, but it IS an idea.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:02 pm
by tenkennosoujiro
actually, balmung, orca, and kite's class is ??? if you go to the arena or their status that's what it says

just wondering but what do you get for clearing the forest of pain? i'm on floor 30

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:12 pm
by Eden Prosper
tenkennosoujiro wrote:actually, balmung, orca, and kite's class is ??? if you go to the arena or their status that's what it says

just wondering but what do you get for clearing the forest of pain? i'm on floor 30
dunno really. I'm on floor 55 as of right now, and from what I've heard from around the boards is you get tabby as a playable character and the strongest/second strongest dual gun.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:36 pm
by AuraTwilight
Well, [The World] is a computerized game, where you can't expect anything. An example being the weird as hell smile you get from AO when you propose to him, also Chim Chim's. Those suckers are examples themselves. What I mean is, is that if AIDA can be created by character emotions, who says they can't be created by CPU's in the game? ...mabye not ^_^;;, but it IS an idea.
CPU's don't have emotions.

Vagrant AI's MIGHT, but there's such an insignificant population it doesn't even matter.
actually, balmung, orca, and kite's class is ??? if you go to the arena or their status that's what it says
Yes, but in-game Kite functions as a TwinBlade and Balmung and Orca function as Blade Brandiers.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:58 pm
by Jimbob
AuraTwilight wrote: Yes, but in-game Kite functions as a TwinBlade and Balmung and Orca function as Blade Brandiers.
In attacks or equipment or both? Blade Brandiers lost the ability to wear heavy armor during the switch to R:2 but Azure Orca and Balmung still look like their armored R:1 selves for the most part.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:42 pm
by AuraTwilight
Both, obviously. Despite the "???" classification, they function normally in the game system.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:48 pm
by Kouen
So the earlier rumor of AO and AB being Edge Punishers was wrong? Geez, G.U. is overloaded with Blade Brandiers. <_<

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:53 pm
by Bulletcatcher
Kouen wrote:So the earlier rumor of AO and AB being Edge Punishers was wrong? Geez, G.U. is overloaded with Blade Brandiers. <_<
The official site said they were Brandishes, but they work like Blades. They use Blade Brandier weapons, etc..

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:51 pm
by Kuukai
Yeah.

Ack, I'm only on Phase 25, and I probably won't get back to it for like a week or so... I think I heard that you want to have Shino when you get to 50, and then you'll get Tabby... Either that or you get her anyway but having Shino gives you a bonus scene... Either way, if you're at 55 and don't have her yet, try going back with Shino?

Stupid huge forest... What happens if you miss a Phase Bonus?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:52 am
by Dualreact
Kuukai wrote:Yeah.

Ack, I'm only on Phase 25, and I probably won't get back to it for like a week or so... I think I heard that you want to have Shino when you get to 50, and then you'll get Tabby... Either that or you get her anyway but having Shino gives you a bonus scene... Either way, if you're at 55 and don't have her yet, try going back with Shino?

Stupid huge forest... What happens if you miss a Phase Bonus?
lol kuukai, FoP can make you nuts,well i did it the easy way, just tun through the monsers and fought only the bosses :3

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:11 pm
by Kuukai
Pretty much what I'm doing, except for the fights I need in order to get the Phase Bonus. At this rate, I forget what my calculations were, but they last 4 phases will require something like an 80-hit combo, 20 skill triggers, and every object on the map broken, or something. So far the object one is really the only hard one, even taking these future projections into account... (80 hit is easy, a harder rule would be not to do a combo > 40...) I forget the other one... The Phase Bonus is great because my inventory is still lame, and they give you huge globs of healing items that are either useful, or at least have a good trade value.

I want to fully complete the game, but I have no bike skillz ;_;

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:34 pm
by [Reset]
Kuukai wrote:I think I heard that you want to have Shino when you get to 50, and then you'll get Tabby...
i get tabby with azure kite and keyaki in my party .___.
Kuukai wrote:Stupid huge forest... What happens if you miss a Phase Bonus?
nothing, i think you can try to get the bonus again
Kuukai wrote:but I have no bike skillz ;_;
if you don't have good parts, some missions can be impossible -___- bah ... the most missions are impossible

Reset's Bike Skillz: -99

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:04 pm
by tenkennosoujiro
you get something if you complete all the bonuses?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:21 pm
by Vahn Staffear
[Reset] wrote:
Kuukai wrote:I think I heard that you want to have Shino when you get to 50, and then you'll get Tabby...
i get tabby with azure kite and keyaki in my party .___.
Why not the other Azure knights, and what level was Keyaki when he joined the party because I heard he had his level scaled down some to make him acceptable to be placed in your party.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:38 pm
by [Reset]
Vahn Staffear wrote:Why not the other Azure knights, and what level was Keyaki when he joined the party because I heard he had his level scaled down some to make him acceptable to be placed in your party.
'cause i was training kite .___. keyaki when he joined, was lvl 125 or 126 i don't remember