Poll Debate: Shakugan no Shana Vs. Rurouni Kenshin

[Carnage]

carnage i notice you keep siding with the side that opposes kenshin(am i making sense?). do you hate him or something?

anyway, do any of you remember the KenshinXSoujiro match? yep, you couldn't see kenshin in the final showdown. having that said, i have shown an estimate of kenshin's full speed.

as for a gundam, i have to admit they are fast. but fast and huge don't go well together. i can't disprove the fact that a gundam can pwn kenshin though.

as for ichigo, his speed can match up to kenshin's if he is in Bankai/hollow or Bankai AND hollow form. after that it's a measure of who gets the first major hit in.

as for Jin/Mugen, it has been highlighted in one of the Rurouni Kenshin episodes that yes, Kenshin reads your style of fighting and decides on a winning plan. but somewhere during the series, when Kenshin was being re-taught by Hiko, Hiko highlighted that fact and got Kenshin to stop doing that. after that, Kenshin acts as the situation deems fit instead of reading his opponents movements. having said that, Jin/Mugen VS Kenshin would be a matter of Last Man Standing. True, Mugen has a great deal of stamina, but so does Kenshin as seen in the Shishio battle despite being repeatedly wounded by Shishio. If Kenshin reverses his Reverse-edged blade, it would be cake since he would slice with every hit, but Kenshin won't do that so it's last man standing or draw. if anyone of them gets distracted it's good game.

i haven't watched shana, but i'll catch it, no worries

as for more matchups, i would like to see
Kenshin VS Mido Ban
Naruto VS Ichigo
Sasuke VS Ichigo
Sasuke VS Kenshin
Ichigo VS Jin/Mugen
Naruto VS Mido Ban
Sanosuke VS Mido Ban (no sword, no jagan)
Gundam(let's say.... the new Freedom) VS Naruto xD
Dr Jackal VS Kenshin
Fuyuki Shido VS Sanosuke
Tasuki VS Shishio
Chichiri VS Amano Ginji
Inu Yasha VS Orochimaru
Soujiro VS Kuchiki Byakuya (rofl)
Cho Hakkai VS Chichiri
Evangelion VS Gundam

ignore those matchups, i'm just being crazy xP

If you actually read everything I have said, I've never said who would beat who, all I've been trying to say was that Kenshin can't beat -everyone- which alot of people imply.

I'm really not siding with either sides. Even Shana, I've still never said who would win have I now?

I actually like Kenshin ok...I'm just trying not to be so biased about those matchups.

[Vahn Staffear]

Actualy I'm the person who sides with anything that opposes Kenshin.
Why you ask?
Because Kenshin is NOT cool anymore. He's lame from an old show. Forgotten. He can't hang with the new age of anime now.

Gundam -All- will pwn him.
God Gundam AKA Burning Gundam will pwn him.

I know plenty more gundams but I rather not disprove you all anyfurther.

Now to move on to Jin/Mugen vs Kenshin. Why compare Jin/Mugen to Shishio. That guy sucked he was lamer than Kenshin, in fact Kenshin did not beat him. If I can rember Shishio died because his body heat rose far beyond what it was capeable of holding and he s'ploded. There fore Kenshin did not bead him, temperature pwned his ass.

[DotHack-Haseo]

lol....o_0....damn, wait to let us have it. lol.

[Vahn Staffear]

What are you talking about?

[-Soba Ni-]

ok sorry about that Carnage

Vahn, that's the price Shishio paid that made him want to use fire techniques. if he was never burnt in the first place, he wouldn't have those techniques, and he wouldn't be so powerful. likewise, if i were to say that Kenshin used a normal, sharp katana instead of his reversed-edged blade, Kenshin would have pwned Shishio much much earlier instead of go through all that. you also have to think; the girl with Shishio(i forgot her name, forgive me) sacrificed herself once to protect Shishio from a direct thrust. if she didn't, Shishio would have been defeated earlier. if kenshin wasn't good enough, how would Shishio's temperature get so high enough to burn himself? i know Saito and Aoshi and Sanosuke also had a part to play, but Kenshin played the biggest part by fighting Shishio twice and for the longest time: before and after they interrupted.

Kenshin is not not cool anymore. he's not lame and he's not forgotten; Rurouni Kenshin may be an old anime but it doesn't mean it can't hang out with the new age anime anymore. in fact if you look here and here, you'll find that Rurouni Kenshin is still great and going, not lame and forgotten as you said.

[Vahn Staffear]

Kenshin is not not cool anymore. he's not lame and he's not forgotten; Rurouni Kenshin may be an old anime but it doesn't mean it can't hang out with the new age anime anymore. in fact if you look here and here, you'll find that Rurouni Kenshin is still great and going, not lame and forgotten as you said.

Not only have you just wasted your time typeing this crap and you put a little link to go with it. Now let me give you 2 good reason's why I don't gave a crap about your statistic as well as your half-assed thoughts.

1.I don't care about your thoughts or anyone elses about this topic or debate. I only care about what I posted.

2.Seeing as though I don't care about your thoughts what make's you think a half-assed statistic will change my mind.

Seeing as though you seem very confindent in Kenshin explain to me one way he could beat Shana, or Mugen/Jin.

[dominus_draconis]

studying tactics, a trick proven he does in his battle with hanya, where he lets hanya attack first to measure his reach while dodging, but, it all depends on when the fight is done, if in his prime just after he recovered fully from shishio, he'd have a good chance(not saying 100%, more like maybe 60/40 in his favor) but, if by the end of the manga, when his body had deteriorated(not from a disease, but, his body decays and he becomes less and less able to fight towards the end of the manga(not the anime, the manga)) then chances of his loss would be near 100%

[DotHack-Haseo]

Vahn Staffear Wrote:

Not only have you just wasted your time typeing this crap and you put a little link to go with it. Now let me give you 2 good reason's why I don't gave a crap about your statistic as well as your half-assed thoughts.

1.I don't care about your thoughts or anyone elses about this topic or debate. I only care about what I posted.

2.Seeing as though I don't care about your thoughts what make's you think a half-assed statistic will change my mind.

Seeing as though you seem very confindent in Kenshin explain to me one way he could beat Shana, or Mugen/Jin. Neutral

Damn....don't pop a blood vessel dude. Lol.

dominus_draconis Wrote:

studying tactics, a trick proven he does in his battle with hanya, where he lets hanya attack first to measure his reach while dodging, but, it all depends on when the fight is done, if in his prime just after he recovered fully from shishio, he'd have a good chance(not saying 100%, more like maybe 60/40 in his favor) but, if by the end of the manga, when his body had deteriorated(not from a disease, but, his body decays and he becomes less and less able to fight towards the end of the manga(not the anime, the manga)) then chances of his loss would be near 100%

But you hint at that he WOULD lose. Sure, I agree that his Hiiten Mitsurugi is pretty much based on speed, but if he did get in a fight, he could still think on his feet. (yes, I am talking about the manga and taking to consideration that he has a disease.) I mean you don't need strength to beat an enemy, sometimes your brain would suffice. Just make him fall into a pit or something or ttrick him into slicing himself or something like that.

Anyway, what I am getting at is, he could beat him just by tricking him.

[Astra]

kenshin would kill!! kenshin owns....

you can tell when his eyes turn yellow, you as good as dead...thats right...

[DotHack-Haseo]

Maybe................nah....... ;p, agree though, Kenshin does pwn. lol.

[Carnage]

kenshin would kill!! kenshin owns.... Very Happy

you can tell when his eyes turn yellow, you as good as dead...thats right...

I think we have established this pretty long ago.

Kenshin -can- pwn, however he can't pwn -everyone-

[DotHack-Haseo]

I said he powned....I didn't say he could pwn all.

Any, way....why is everyone in a persnickity mood today?

Shana, kicks butt, but, I think Ueki could take Shana and Kenshin. ;p

[Astra]

kenshin would kill!! kenshin owns.... Very Happy

you can tell when his eyes turn yellow, you as good as dead...thats right...

Kenshin -can- pwn, however he can't pwn -everyone-

hmmm...he -could- pwn everyone...or at least try. it's too bad he died though, i hated that movie...

[-Soba Ni-]

well Vahn if you're happy with that so am i.

since you so clearly posted your view on how much you value people's opinion, why should i even bother? you shouldn't be reading what you don't care about. Apathy can go both ways.



yeah was a pity Kenshin died and didn't he pwn everyone long ago as Battosai

[DotHack-Haseo]

Yeah but then...he had no remourse for human life.

[-Soba Ni-]

true. he's changed so much :3

[DotHack-Haseo]

Yeah, but several times during the show, if you remember....he was tempted to kill several times.

If you wanna call that changing...I mean...he did change....just the Botousai was hidden underneath his kind exterior...it never truly went away.

[-Soba Ni-]

but still, he was strong enough to supress it for so long.

sometimes i think what would have happened if Sanosuke wasn't present in Rurouni Kenshin

[Vahn Staffear]

well Vahn if you're happy with that so am i.

since you so clearly posted your view on how much you value people's opinion, why should i even bother? you shouldn't be reading what you don't care about. Apathy can go both ways.



yeah was a pity Kenshin died and didn't he pwn everyone long ago as Battosai

What did Kenshin die by?

[Astra]

well Vahn if you're happy with that so am i.

since you so clearly posted your view on how much you value people's opinion, why should i even bother? you shouldn't be reading what you don't care about. Apathy can go both ways.



yeah was a pity Kenshin died and didn't he pwn everyone long ago as Battosai

What did Kenshin die by?

a disease...twas lame.