Why haseo in te Forest of Pain...

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:04 pm

Well, it is Harald. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the most resilient AI except for Aura.

The Azure Wind · Post by **The Azure Wind** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:06 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, it is Harald. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the most resilient AI except for Aura.

You cant forget about morganna

DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:13 pm

The Azure Wind wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:Well, it is Harald. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the most resilient AI except for Aura.
You cant forget about morganna

Morganna had a lot more flaws then Harald origionally, since the Morganna Mode Gone program wasn't really intended to do anything other then gather information to funnel into Aura. Besides, Morganna went all self-preservation and had to be put down

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:17 pm

Morganna died fairly easily. "NOOOO KILLING MY ARCH ENEMY MADE ME DIE FOR SOME REASON! GURGLE GURGLE!"

Dimitri · Post by **Dimitri** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:19 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, it is Harald. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the most resilient AI except for Aura.

...
Harald= Fragment, The World, The World R2
Aura=The World
Who last longer?

DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:26 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Morganna died fairly easily. "NOOOO KILLING MY ARCH ENEMY MADE ME DIE FOR SOME REASON! GURGLE GURGLE!"

LOL funny yet true.

And since Harald is just kinda stuck where he is and Aura basically left on her own or whatever, we'll never really know who would've lasted longer in the end.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:19 pm

Well, to be fair, Aura wasn't even BORN until The World, and then left of her own free will before The World R:2. That has absolutely nothing to do with her resilance, so you can't really compare their lifespans like that.

Dimitri · Post by **Dimitri** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:12 am

AuraTwilight wrote:Well, to be fair, Aura wasn't even BORN until The World, and then left of her own free will before The World R:2.

I'm pretty sure we arent sure why Aura's gone, we just know that she is.
I dont know if anyone had the power to destroy Aura, but I am curious what would have happened if Kite would have performed Data Drain on Aura.(not that he ever would) What we do know is that Harold is a REAL pain to kill, as Morgonna kept deleting him and he kept coming back.(He's like a cockroach, you just cant kill him

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DragonLord · Post by **DragonLord** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:28 am

Dimitri wrote:
AuraTwilight wrote:Well, to be fair, Aura wasn't even BORN until The World, and then left of her own free will before The World R:2.
I'm pretty sure we arent sure why Aura's gone, we just know that she is.
I dont know if anyone had the power to destroy Aura, but I am curious what would have happened if Kite would have performed Data Drain on Aura.(not that he ever would) What we do know is that Harold is a REAL pain to kill, as Morgonna kept deleting him and he kept coming back.(He's like a cockroach, you just cant kill him )

We already saw that when Skeith Data Drained Aura, she just fragmented and went all helpless until Kite saved her. After her rebirth at the end of Quarintine she could probably just say "No" to being Data Drained, considering she was God of The World at that point.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:31 pm

I'm pretty sure we arent sure why Aura's gone, we just know that she is.
I dont know if anyone had the power to destroy Aura, but I am curious what would have happened if Kite would have performed Data Drain on Aura.(not that he ever would) What we do know is that Harold is a REAL pain to kill, as Morgonna kept deleting him and he kept coming back.(He's like a cockroach, you just cant kill him

1. Both Zefie and Shino, two reliable sources of information, either say outright or heavily imply that Aura left of her own free will out of disgust or disinterest in the world.
2. If Aura was successfully Data Drained, she'd segment.

Dimitri · Post by **Dimitri** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:22 pm

AuraTwilight wrote: 1. Both Zefie and Shino, two reliable sources of information, either say outright or heavily imply that Aura left of her own free will out of disgust or disinterest in the world.

I havent seen the Zefie info so I cant make a reply on that, but with Shino they could be purposely throwing out false information for a later plot (Although I believe your right in that she left on her own will, you cant ignore other possibilities)

AuraTwilight wrote: 2. If Aura was successfully Data Drained, she'd segment.

Dont forget, that was before she was properly born, she was merely a (ghost?) then. After she was properly born, DD might have had a different effect on her data.

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:23 pm

properly born?she was...morganna is mommy....harold is daddy...and she was an AI....

Dimitri · Post by **Dimitri** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:27 pm

haseoxth wrote:properly born?she was...morganna is mommy....harold is daddy...and she was an AI....

She wasnt properly born until Kite stabbed her. When Aura jumped in front of Kite in the final battle and got stabbed, her true birth occured and Morganna bite the dust

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:29 pm

Dimitri wrote:
haseoxth wrote:properly born?she was...morganna is mommy....harold is daddy...and she was an AI....
She wasnt properly born until Kite stabbed her. When Aura jumped in front of Kite in the final battle and got stabbed, her true birth occured and Morganna bite the dust

no...she was born...thats was just her becoming Godess of the world...her being reborn as god of the world to be more exact..

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:23 pm

Dont forget, that was before she was properly born, she was merely a (ghost?) then. After she was properly born, DD might have had a different effect on her data.

After being born, you can't execute a successful Data Drain on her, so it doesn't matter.

no...she was born...thats was just her becoming Godess of the world...her being reborn as god of the world to be more exact..

No, Aura wasn't born until the moment she died, merged with Morganna, and rebooted Za Warudo. Her incomplete status we see in Sign and the majority of the Games is the Ultimate AI counterpart of a fetus, and Za Warudo acts as the womb. (Morganna being the mother, trying to perform an abortion.)

haseoxth · Post by **haseoxth** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:36 pm

Oh,thanks for clearing that up.I feel stupid now....

terror-of death · Post by **terror-of death** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:40 am

Taskun wrote:I thought it was interesting how he got to skip his [pimpin'] second form, and still obtain his Edge Punisher form.

think of him as a kid with an action replay lol i mean, my 2nd time through rebirth i used the cheat code to get the scythe ability and when i checked my status screen i also had the broadsword ability
also i dont think that the many harolds were just copies being deleated but perhaps differen fragments of his conscious and subconscious mind.

this would explain th differences in each one as well as the reason he got more insane as each one was deleated that is to say that with each deleation, Harold would lose a bit of his mind though i may be wrong

reguarding my double post: i am currently on my PSP and am only allowed a certain amoun of characters per text box so i had to split it between 2 posts i will fix this and make it one post next time i access a PC

Jakomay · Post by **Jakomay** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:22 pm

The ultra rare twin blades wouldn't have made him the terror of death. With the 3rd form jump he got an extra 100 or so levels (Don't know what level he was while going through the forest of pain)...But with all that power it corrupted him...Its a complicated thing I guess.

silabus · Post by **silabus** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:45 am

I can be that because AK pk him because Haseo had anormal data or something?? In the sistem was registred Haseo-LVL:33 and in that moment HAsseo was lvl 133

Carnage · Post by **Carnage** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:28 pm

silabus wrote:I can be that because AK pk him because Haseo had anormal data or something?? In the sistem was registred Haseo-LVL:33 and in that moment HAsseo was lvl 133

O_o can you rephrase that, checking your grammer and spelling. Because I'm not 100% sure of what you just said.