Vol 3 Discussion Thread *SPOILERS*

Procyon · Post by **Procyon** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:56 am

Doperugangaa wrote:
Umbra wrote:Serves you right for using the romanised Japanese transliteration of a masculine German term... ¬_¬
The who in the what now?

Doppelgänger is a German term. Heimrich Himler, or whoever, was Hitler's Doppelgänger. =D Althought I don't know enough German to know that that term is masculine.

Umbra · Post by **Umbra** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:57 am

I'm referring to your name...

'Doperugangaa' is the romanised Japanese transliteration of a masculine German term.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 12:00 pm

You guys, stop bickering. You're both equally inferior to me.

dark_kratos · Post by **dark_kratos** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:30 pm

*stares at thread*
. . .
*shakes head*

any ways has anyone taken a good look at Haseo's 4th form? To me he looks like he becomes cooler but his gun is so small compared to the other steamgunner's guns

Rykar · Post by **Rykar** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:24 pm

I think everyone will return to the World for those who were unreturners no thanks to Ovan.

Like after you beat Ovan, Yata appears congratulating him and Haseo asks about those who were unreturners if they are able to come back and I am not sure what they were talking about...

but last dialogue before credit rolls, Haseo talks to himself in his Diary blog style, and says "Come back soon Shino"

so I think Yowkow, Shino and others might come back during Vol 3 (in the beginning possibly) -except Taihaku- because he got pwned after Haseo pwned Ovan.

What's funny is that... when Kite was with his party, (According to .hack//Another Birth novel), Kite's essence of his bracelet to his party made them unable to be Data Drained completely until the end of Quarantine where Corbenik pwned like almost everyone except Kite.

Post by **Kuukai** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:03 pm

Rykar wrote:What's funny is that... when Kite was with his party, (According to .hack//Another Birth novel), Kite's essence of his bracelet to his party made them unable to be Data Drained completely until the end of Quarantine where Corbenik pwned like almost everyone except Kite.

Is that reason actually given in the novels?

Rykar · Post by **Rykar** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:26 pm

Let me bring out quote...

"Skeith's red cross moved behind me. It rose into the air to crucify me as it had Orca. "No!" Kite slashed, but it didnt even twitch. It happened in an instant. Light shot from Skeith's hand. My avatar fell to the ground with a thud. Again, my health verged on death. Everything flickered indicating that I had been afflicted with virtually every game malady: paralysis, poison, slow and sleep. Yet somehow I could still move. Is this the grace of the bracelet that Mia talked about? At any rate, I was saved, the Data Drain was ineffective! "

also in the book, there were parts that werent in game, where Blackrose meets Mia in person just both of them goes to the first area Kite and Orca went and Blackrose sees past events what happened to Kite and Orca and Skeith. Then Mia sends her email to keep it between her and Blackrose. Blackrose questions to herself who Mia was.

Kite669 · Post by **Kite669** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:55 pm

hmm I wonder what class this mystery girl is? You think shes a Harvest or Shadow Warlock?

I think shes a Harvest because if you look at her thigh legs, you'll notice some straps on her stockings and if im right, most female Harvesters have those.

bredan · Post by **bredan** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:19 pm

i'd say shdow warlock since she has that ....ballet thingy

Rykar · Post by **Rykar** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:32 pm

I like her leg designs...

(dont get me wrong >_>;; )

Post by **Kuukai** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:10 am

Not sure if this has been translated before, but here's my attempt:

Ovan: A long time ago, there was a statue of a goddess here.
Ovan: The god seated in The World.

Sakaki: Shall we play a game, Haseo?
Atoli: No... Nooo!!
Sakaki: Is Haseo guilty? Or not guilty?
Atoli: I hear... An awful sound... The net is overflowing with spite...

Sakaki: Guilty!! Guilty!! Guilty!! Guilty!!

Haseo: You've been using me since the day we met?
Ovan: I'm out of time...
Haseo: "Get stronger"?! What the hell do you want?!
Ovan: My last option... No, from the beginning this is all there was...
Haseo: Ovan! This is how you wanted it to end?!
Ovan: Ei... na...

Haseo: I... can't go back! I can't go back to being that "Terror of Death"!!
Haseo: Destiny isn't decided on the whim of some goddess!
Haseo: The worst possible...
Pai: All we can do is not run away,
Bou: Who is calling me?
Haseo: An extend that transcends the system?!
Haseo: This is... X-Form?!
Haseo: This world is something we'll make for ourselves!

Haseo: Happiness,
Silabus: 'Cause Haseo's the leader!

Haseo: Sadness,
Pai: We're alike, you and I...

Haseo: Love,
Yowkow: Do you know the meaning of Honeysuckle?

Haseo: Hate,
Bordeaux: That Haseo, I'll kill him!

Haseo: Hope,
Atoli: I want to do my best in the world I'm in right now!

Haseo: Despair,
Ovan: Do you see your path, Haseo?

Haseo: All the feelings I've painted The World with, I put into this one strike!
Haseo: Ovan, I will not run away! We'll settle this!

German really isn't my thing, but has anyone gotten that part yet? There's some interesting stuff in there... Like left arms and keys and stuff...

I'm not sure about the "Eina" thing. I think it's AIDA, but it sounds like Aina... So I just wrote it as a cool-sounding name...

Rykar · Post by **Rykar** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:30 am

Why do I have a feeling that Haseo will sacrifice himself to return everyone back but not himself and get himself either dead and comatose with Ovan together?

bredan · Post by **bredan** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:36 am

why do i have a feeling that haseo is going to get banned after he saves the world?

Rykar · Post by **Rykar** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:48 am

It's going to be like this...

Unreturner spirits gather up + including dotHackers spirits and eventually even Aura joins and gathers up into one energy power that Haseo gets, and Haseo's energy power and avatar is maxed out and beats the hell out of Ovan/Morganna (final boss whoever it is) and the final boss says "before I die, I'll take you down with me!" and Haseo's IRL brain gets fried.

Marioshinobi · Post by **Marioshinobi** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:44 am

Seems a guild wants Haseo to turn back into a PKK and he refuses..

So they simply give him a judgement type thing which they scream out Guilty Guilty, which Atoli hears..or most likely they want the PKK that killed 100 Pk'ers to put into judgement.

And it seems the game won't end after you beat Ovan, for there's some Godess that wants something more =/ Perhaps a grown up version of Aura?

Many ways to take this =D

Akuta · Post by **Akuta** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:58 am

Umbra wrote:I'm referring to your name...

'Doperugangaa' is the romanised Japanese transliteration of a masculine German term.

It's not like everyone know that anyway ;P It's rather that people assume they're talking to a male.
Still, i like Doperugangaa. It sounds so relaxed ;P
I'm really looking forward to hearing the explanation behind x-form, and most of all seeing it in a normal way.

Mellow Grunty · Post by **Mellow Grunty** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:46 am

Kuukai wrote:Sakaki: Guilty!! Guilty!! Guilty!! Guilty!!

OBJECTION!!1

The 9 stolen Umbra Tokens I have left says Eina is the girl in the chair/on teh bridge with Phyllo.

AuraTwilight · Post by **AuraTwilight** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:20 am

Well, I really think The Goddess thing was clearly just a speech. And I guarantee Haseo won't have to sacrifice himself. He's made WAY too much character development. Ovan might, but that's probably it.

The way Haseo was talking, it looks like he's trying to prove that we don't need a Goddess/Aura/Ultimate AI in charge. That we could form a Republic of Heaven, more or less.

Kuukai says this is getting Xenosaga-y. I think it's getting His Dark Materials-y

MeultimaSama · Post by **MeultimaSama** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:14 pm

Man, Dark Materials started out good, then it became kinda...Eh... Kiddish. >.>; Honestly, it was odd.

Breaking from pre-determined destiny, huh? Morganna wasn't very succesful in that regard...

ForteGSOmega · Post by **ForteGSOmega** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:41 pm

German really isn't my thing, but has anyone gotten that part yet? There's some interesting stuff in there... Like left arms and keys and stuff...

Here's my take on this. I posted it on another thread but also added some things.

Note that the German almost made me cry, I'll write what they said and what they were TRYING to say.

Zum linken Arm der Schlüssel zur Variante.
To the left arm, the key to the variant(?)
(>"On the left arm the key to variant/alternative")

Auf den rechten Arm ein Schlüssel der Dämmerung.
On the right arm(wrong grammar..), a key to Twilight.

(They used "Abend"("evening") for twilight, which is possible, in the epitaph and now they're using "Dämmerung"(which is "dawn", but it sounds much more accurate)

Welle des Endes und eine große Welle der Wiedergeburt.
Wave of the End and a big Wave of Rebirth.

(The small text is the Epitaph of Twilight.)

Die optische Welt wird gefühlt.
The optic world will be feeled

Die Person, dass es neue Dämmerung der Götter verursacht
The person, that it causes a new twilight of the gods.
(The person which causes a new twilight of the gods.)

Einfach wir der Wunsch, der nicht einen bestimmten Erwartung Traum hat, Sie SI'N'D in der Lage anzuhaften
(Sorry, that makes absolutely no sense. It's quite possible that it makes sense if you translate it word for word to japanese(without paying attention to grammar) and then to real english)

"Only/Just we the wish, who/that/which has no expectation dream, they A'R'E able to cling to/(tentative:)answer to"

Possible meaning:
We only have the wish, which has no expectation and which is no dream and to which they are able to answer to.

Ich bilde es einen Unterbrecher
I make/form it a Breaker/Interruptor(wrong grammar, though)

und es ist ein Schöpfer
and it's a creator (possibly "god")

und eine hilflose Person
and a helpless person

Ton des Hufs eines sehr großen Schattens vorher
The hoof's sound of a big shadow before (wrong grammar)

Freude (Hapiness)
Sorge (Concern(I think they meant Sorrow))
Liebe (Love)
Haß (Hate)
Wunsch (Wish/Desire)
Verzweiflung (Despair)

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