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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:46 am
by dothacker06
U guys act like u have played and beaten the game. Do you know Japanese?
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:48 am
by VideoSpud
I don't know Japanese, but I do know that Kuukai and a few others do. And no, I haven't played the game and beaten it, I just usually come up with theories when there isn't anything else to do, and I just get info about the game from the others.^^;
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:52 am
by Umbra
dothacker06 wrote:U guys act like u have played and beaten the game. Do you know Japanese?
There are a number of people that have completed the game, the majority of them are also capable of understanding Japanese.
The rest piece together information from those that have completed the game.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:03 am
by dothacker06
What's kind of funny is that I have been living in Japan for six years now and don't speak fluent Japanese.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:18 pm
by Kuukai
dothacker06 wrote:What's kind of funny is that I have been living in Japan for six years now and don't speak fluent Japanese.
Wow, that's like a tragically wasted opportunity... Do you live on a base or something? If you want to learn though, there's no better place to learn Japanese than Japan :P
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:37 pm
by oath5
Poor Mia and Zephie....that's really sad. I bet Elk was present when they deleted Mia, it would be perfect set up for going gloomy if Endrance is in fact Elk player....but Zephie, that's even sadder....she better appear in the games at one point!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:46 am
by Chili
Hold on. The avatar Kuhn was using wasn't Magus but a copy? Say what??? -confused-
And I was just beginning to wonder how he broke into a top-security building like CC Corp and make off with Magus without catching lasers up his RL shmexy ass.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:54 pm
by AuraTwilight
No, dammit, listen.
Kuhn has the real Avatar Magus, but it's Propagation ability allows him to make independant copies to fight for him so he can be at a safe distance.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:13 pm
by Kuukai
Oh his entire character, I believe. Funny how Morganna didn't seem to be able to do that to Tsukasa...
And Kuhn's sorta a CC employee, that's why.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:32 pm
by AuraTwilight
Well, Morganna was trying to copy Tsukasa's entire mind. Kuhn probably just has to copy the character and either follows normal game AI or he controls it remotely.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:24 pm
by Kuukai
Maybe, though I got the impression it was an actual copy, personality and all. There might be problems with this process that are explored later though.
The scans indicate that he uses his power to save Atoli, but despite that Atoli isn't quite the same...
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:29 pm
by VideoSpud
Wait, Kuhn can use his Propagation ability to clone other things then his Avatar?

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:41 pm
by Kuukai
Seems that way... Either that or some other power, but it says "Magus's power", and we all know that probably means "Propagation"...
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:48 pm
by VideoSpud
That would mean that there would be 2 Atolis, and that it would be hard to tell which one is which....
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:51 pm
by Kuukai
Until I find out the exact context of what he does, I'm not really going to think about it... Though yes, that seems like a possibility...
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:06 pm
by AuraTwilight
So that means we can possibly have normal (albeit an AI version of) Atoli, and creepy Tri-Atoli

Cooolies.
But eh, I think Magus can only copy data and not entire personalities.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:54 pm
by Kuukai
Isn't part of the point of this whole thing that personalities can be data?
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:42 pm
by AuraTwilight
Well yea, but you know what I mean. Personalities = Really, really, really, really, really unique data.
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:32 am
by KaenKasharion
Kuhn can most likely only "perfectly" copy himself with Magus's power. Everything else he can probably attempt, but not as great of an outcome.
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:50 am
by Kuukai
Well, I'm not sure we can even make that conclusion yet. He might be able to copy data perfectly under normal conditions, but not for AIDA-PCs. Or maybe "Magus's power" is a very misleading way to say he data drained her, and his Propagation ability isn't even relevant. We'll find out soon enough... Wow, I can't believe they already have TV commercials for the next one...